F2F meeting, October 2021

From Web of Things Interest Group

This is the logistics page for the W3C Web of Things IG/WG joint F2F meeting held in conjunction with TPAC 2021. This year, due to COVID-19 travel restrictions, the meeting will be virtual.

TPAC

TPAC Meeting Conflicts

Meetings that some WoT members need to go to but are not collaborations with WoT per se.

Collaborations

Some members may want to meet with or join meetings of the following groups so we should avoid conflicts:

  • Media and Entertainment IG (MEIG)
    • Organizer: Kaz
    • Status: request made
    • Response: not as a joint meeting but some of the ME participants will join the WoT sessions, need to define topics
    • Next steps: generate use cases, eg AR, media control/sync, to get further input
  • Devices and Sensors WG (DAS WG)
    • Organizer: McCool
    • Status: request sent to Anssi Kostiainen
    • Response: Let's use github to define issues and discuss asynchronously
    • Coordinate with Spatial Data on the Web IG
  • Decentralized Identifiers WG (DID WG)
    • Organizer: McCool
    • Status: request sent to Manu Sporny
  • JSON-LD WG
    • Organizer: Sebastian
  • MiniApps CG
    • Organizer: Kaz
    • Status: in progress
  • Publishing WG/BG/CG
    • Organizer: Kaz
    • Status: request sent to Daihei Shiohama, Publishing BG Chair
    • Response: proposal on joint discussion during the Publishing BG meeting on Oct 13
      • opt1. Oct 13 09:00PDT / 12:00EDT / 16:00UTC / 01:00amJST (Oct 14)
      • opt2. Oct 13 17:00PDT / 20:00EDT / 00:00UTC / 09:00amJST (Oct 14)
  • Privacy IG (PING)
    • Organizer: McCool
    • Status: request sent to Samuel Weiler
    • Response: Let's use github to define issues and discuss asynchronously
  • Service Workers WG
    • Organizer: McCool
    • Status: waiting on W&N meeting org
  • Web and Networks IG
    • Organizer: McCool
    • Status: meeting set for Oct 15 at 9am Eastern, 1h
    • Response: yes
    • Logistics: Kaz to set up webex; observers to be allowed; guests chairs to decide
    • Agenda:
      • Edge Computing and Edge Workers
      • Compute utility and its API
      • WoT: Discovery, and/or Scripting (for orchestration)
      • Metadata (network (LPP), new metadata for compute utilities)
  • Accessibility Platform Architectures WG (APA WG)
    • Organizer: McCool
    • Status: Request sent to group-apa-chairs
  • Linked Building Data CG
    • Organizer: Sebastian
  • Spatial Data on the Web IG
    • Request in progress via Christine Perey
    • Other Liaisons: OGC, IEEE P2874
    • Agenda: present proposal (document, ideally) for geospatial semantic annotation and discovery process
    • Organizer: McCool
    • Coordinate with DAS meetings, above (align with web APIs)
  • Others?
    • Automotive
    • TAG
    • Agriculture
      • In discussion
    • Smart Cities
      • In discussion

Timetable for WoT PlugFest and vF2F during TPAC

US Pacific
(PDT)
UTC-7		 5:00 6:00 7:00 8:00 9:00 17:00
US Eastern
(EDT)
UTC-4		 8:00 9:00 10:00 11:00 12:00 20:00
Atrantic
(ADT)
UTC-3		 9:00 10:00 11:00 12:00 13:00 21:00
UTC 12:00 13:00 14:00 15:00 16:00 00:00+1d
UK
(BST)
UTC+1		 13:00 14:00 15:00 16:00 17:00 01:00+1d
EU
(CEST)
UTC+2		 14:00 15:00 16:00 17:00 18:00 02:00+1d
Finland
(EEST)
UTC+3		 15:00 16:00 17:00 18:00 19:00 03:00+1d
Singapore (SGT)
China (CST)
UTC+8		 20:00 21:00 22:00 23:00 24:00 08:00+1d
Korea (KST)
Japan (JST)
UTC+9		 21:00 22:00 23:00 24:00 01:00+1d 09:00+1d
September 27 to October 1: Plugfest/Testfest
Mon, 27 Sep. 2021 - PlugFest
(WebEx for Members)
(WebEx for IEs)		 - - - -
Tue, 28 Sep. 2021 - PlugFest
(WebEx for Members)
(WebEx for IEs)		 - - - -
Wed, 29 Sep. 2021 - PlugFest
(WebEx for Members)
(WebEx for IEs)		 - - - -
Thu, 30 Sep. 2021 - PlugFest
(WebEx for Members)
(WebEx for IEs)		 - - - -
Fri, 1 Oct. 2021 - PlugFest
(WebEx for Members)
(WebEx for IEs)		 - - - -
October 5 to October 8: vF2F Meetings
Mon, 4 Oct. 2021 - - - - - -
Tue, 5 Oct. 2021 vF2F
(WebEx for Members)
(WebEx for IE)		 - - -
Wed, 6 Oct. 2021 - - - - - -
Thu, 7 Oct. 2021 vF2F
(WebEx for Members)
(WebEx for IE)		 - - -
Fri, 8 Oct. 2021 - - - - - -
October 11 to October 15: Open Day meetings
Mon, 11 Oct. 2021 Open Day
(WebEx for Members)
(WebEx for IEs)		 - - -
Tue, 12 Oct. 2021 - - - - - -
Wed, 13 Oct. 2021 - - - - - -
Thu, 14 Oct. 2021 Open Day
(WebEx for Members)
(WebEx for IEs)		 - - -
Fri, 15 Oct. 2021 - - - - - -
October 18 to October 22: Breakouts
Mon, 18 Oct. 2021 - - - - - -
Tue, 19 Oct. 2021 - - - - - -
Wed, 20 Oct. 2021 - - - - - -
Thu, 21 Oct. 2021 - - - - - -
Fri, 22 Oct. 2021 - - - - - -
October 25 to October 29: vF2F and Joint Meetings
Mon, 25 Oct. 2021 - - - - - -
Tue, 26 Oct. 2021 vF2F
(WebEx for Members)
(WebEx for IE)		 - - -
Wed, 27 Oct. 2021 vF2F
(WebEx for Members)
(WebEx for IE)		 - - -
Thu, 28 Oct. 2021 vF2F
(WebEx for Members)
(WebEx for IE)		 - - -
Fri, 29 Oct. 2021 - - - - - -

F2F

Constraints and Planning

General TPAC schedule

  • Breakouts Oct 18-22.
  • Joint and Group Meetings Oct 25-29.


Planned meeting times:

  • Plugfest Sept 27-Oct 1
    • 9am-10am ET
  • IG/WG F2F and Joint Meetings on Oct 5, 7, 26, 27, 28
    • 8am-11am ET

Breakouts

Should be posted to Session Ideas page. See also breakout agenda issues for details of organized meetings.

Scheduled

See CVent for detailed schedule.

  • Smart Cities - Oct 18 at 15:00 UTC and Oct 21 14:00 UTC
    • Kaz organizing/hosting
  • Edge Computing - Oct 22 at 14:00 (to confirm) UTC
    • Michael McCool is presenting on Edge Workers
  • Next Directions for Voice and the Web - Oct 19 at 00:00 UTC and Oct 20 at 15:00 UTC
    • Kaz organizing/hosting

Proposed

  • Enveloped JSON Signatures
    • Take the current TD signature spec, move to a separate document, make a separate standard with broader applicability (JSON in general), perhaps an IETF RFC.
  • Geospatial Ontologies and Discovery
  • Time Series Databases for IoT
  • Secure Local Transport (HTTPS Local)
  • Web Transport and Streaming for IoT
  • Smart Cities (to be organized by Kaz)

External Meetings

Week of Oct 11-15. Meetings with external organizations, i.e. other standard organizations or companies using WoT. One or more "OpenDay" sessions will be scheduled this week. See also external agenda issues for details of organized meetings.

Proposed

  • ITU-T SG20 (Kaz/McCool/Sebastian)
  • OGC and IEEE P2874 (McCool)
    • See also the SDW joint meeting.
  • ECHONET (Kaz)
  • ECLASS (Sebastian)
  • OPC-UA (Sebastian)
  • ISO TC184/SC4 (Sebastian/Kaz)
  • EdgeX
  • Netzo

Joint Meetings

Week of Oct 25-29. See also joint agenda issues for details of organized meetings.

Proposed

  • Automotive (Lagally)
  • APA - Accessibility (McCool)
  • MEIG - Media and Entertainment and WTG - Web Transport (Kaz)
    • Streams, Media control, content management
  • PBG - Publishing (Kaz)
    • Media control / Synchronization, content management
  • SDW - Spatial Data on the Web and DAS - Devices and Sensors (McCool)
    • Geolocation API and geofencing
    • Discovery (see also proposed breakout)
    • Accuracy and precision standards (SSN)
  • DID, VC, and JSON-LD (McCool/Sebastian)
    • Link types (for discovery services)
    • LD-Proofs (TD signing format restrictions, purpose, etc)
  • MiniAPP (Kaz) and WNG - Web and Networks (McCool)
    • Scripting and Orchestration
    • Edge Computing
  • LBD - Linked Building Data (Sebastian?)
  • SOLID (McCool)
  • WoT Japanese CG (Kaz)

Conflicts

If you know dates which you cannot attend, please list here.

  • Farshid, only available on Oct 20th and after
  • Christiano, conflict on Oct 22nd

Agenda

Oct 5

Duration: 2h55m

  • Opening Session: 5m
  • Discovery: 2h50m
    • Review current specification (30m)
      • What's new?
    • Review open issues
      • Needs discussion
      • Stretch goals (e.g. defer to next charter)
      • Propose closing
    • Review state of testing and implementations (30m)

Oct 7

Duration: 2h55m

  • Opening Session: 5m
  • TDs: 2h50m
    • What's new in TD spec.?
    • TD 1.1 vs TD 2.0 (impact on the TD versioning, check the labeled "defer 2.0" issues, ...)
    • Collections for TMs,
    • Reducing verbosity in TDs (Cris)
    • Latest about Binding Templates? (Ege)

Oct 11 - Open Day

Registration: https://forms.gle/cc8qkHcxBhSbMtHc6

Duration: 2h55m

Oct 14 - Open Day

Registration: https://forms.gle/cc8qkHcxBhSbMtHc6

Duration: 2h55m

  • 8am Eastern: ECHONET: 1h (30m pres + 30m discussion)
  • 9am Eastern: SDW (tentative): 1h (30m pres + 30m discussion)
    • Note this their usual group meeting timeslot
  • 10am Eastern: Netzo: 1h (30m pres + 30m discussion)

Oct 26

Extended to include charter topics. Note there is still 25m of slack in the schedule.

Duration: 2h35m

  • Opening Session: 5m
  • Use Cases: 1h20m
    • Conexxus: 20m
    • MiniApps: 20m
    • NHK: 20m
    • Digital Microscopes: 10m
    • Retail use case with ECLASS semantics: 10m
  • Break: 10m
  • Japanese WoT CG Update: 30m
  • Charters: 30m
    • Schedule revisions
    • WG charter extension (resolution needed)
    • Proposed IG charter revisions
    • Proposed WG charter

Oct 27

Duration: 2h55m

  • Opening Session: 5m
  • Architecture: 30m
  • Profiles: 1h
  • Break
  • Scripting: 45m
  • Marketing: 30m

Oct 28

Duration: 2h55m

Note: MEIG meeting has been cancelled, so no conflict

  • Opening Session: 5m
  • OPC-UA: 45m
    • approved that Rainer is joining the meeting
  • T2TRG/DID/Security: 1h
  • Break: 10m
  • Plugfest/Testing Report: 55m
    • Note: Plugfest project reports and interop testing results handled on Oct 11
    • Implementation Reports and Testing: 55m
      • Link to draft implementation report(s)
      • Summary of gaps where additional tests are needed

Topics (Not Scheduled)

List of topics, to eventually be scheduled.

  • Discovery (2h30)
  • WoT Japanese CG updates (30m)
  • Thing Description (2h30m)
    • TD 1.1 vs TD 2.0 (impact on the TD versioning, check the labeled "defer 2.0" issues, ...)
    • Collections for TMs,
    • Reducing verbosity in TDs (Cris)
  • Architecture (30m)
  • Profiles (45m)
  • Use Cases (45m)
  • Security
    • Signatures (20m)
    • DID for key distribution (20m)
  • Scripting (1h)
  • Marketing
    • Tutorials (30m)
  • Liaisons
    • OPC-UA (45m)
  • Joint Calls
    • May also use Oct 14 OpenDay for DID and T2TRG
    • DID and T2TRG (1h30m)
    • SDW (30m-1h)
    • MiniApps and WN (30m-1h)

PlugFest

  • Format: one week, one hour a day meeting
  • Organized using github
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