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18:54:06 <atsushi> zakim, clear agenda
18:54:06 <Zakim> agenda cleared
18:55:57 <atsushi> agenda+ webxr-hand-input#44 Add support for fillJointRadii and fillPoses
18:56:04 <atsushi> agenda+ webxr-hand-input#46 Return boolean from fill methods
18:56:12 <atsushi> agenda+ layers#202 Publish first Working draft of the layers spec
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18:56:20 <atsushi> agenda: https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/blob/main/meetings/cg/2020-09-15-Immersive_Web_Community_Group_Teleconference-agenda.md
18:56:26 <Leonard> present+
18:56:27 <atsushi> atsushi has changed the topic to: https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/blob/main/meetings/cg/2020-09-15-Immersive_Web_Community_Group_Teleconference-agenda.md
18:56:36 <atsushi> date: 15 Sep 2020
18:57:05 <atsushi> previous meeting: https://w3.org/2020/08/18-immersive-web-minutes.html
18:57:16 <atsushi> meeting: Immersive Web Community Group Teleconference
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19:04:32 <Leonard> scribe Leonard
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19:04:44 <atsushi> s/scribe Leonard/scribe: Leonard/
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19:06:11 <Leonard> Ada: Review & submit responses for TPAC call in October
19:06:22 <Leonard> Ada: <offline now... :-( ?
19:06:33 <yonet> present+
19:06:56 <Leonard> https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr-hand-input/pull/44
19:07:11 <adarose> webex failed
19:07:13 <atsushi> zakim, take up agendum 1
19:07:13 <Zakim> agendum 1. "webxr-hand-input#44 Add support for fillJointRadii and fillPoses" taken up [from atsushi]
19:07:26 <Leonard> Brandon: Picking up...
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19:07:50 <Leonard> [Ada returns]
19:08:46 <Manishearth> https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr-hand-input/pull/44
19:09:24 <Leonard> Manish: Previously discussed to allow the handling of all hand joints without having to create 100's of objects each frame
19:09:36 <Manishearth> https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr-hand-input/pull/46
19:09:52 <Leonard> ... currently in Hands repo, but if desired can be inserted into future version of Core
19:09:59 <cabanier> +1
19:10:07 <Leonard> ... still deciding on need for Boolean -- see PR
19:10:11 <cabanier> q+
19:10:19 <adarose> ack cabanier
19:10:28 <Leonard> Rik: Boolean return is next agenda item
19:10:36 <Leonard> q+
19:10:46 <Manishearth> q+
19:10:56 <bajones> q+
19:11:15 <Manishearth> ack L
19:11:20 <adarose> ack Leonard
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19:12:54 <adarose> ack Manishearth
19:13:00 <Leonard> OGC has GeoPose WG. Potential for overuse of over-specification of "Pose"
19:13:13 <Leonard> Manish: Agrees, but just for knowledge
19:13:29 <adarose> ack bajones
19:13:34 <Leonard> Manish: (to Rik) can have this and a dictionary API if needed
19:13:41 <alexturn> q+
19:13:43 <Leonard> Brandon: Agree with Manish
19:14:02 <adarose> ack alexturn
19:14:39 <bajones> q+
19:14:44 <adarose> ack bajones
19:14:45 <Leonard> Alex: Is the representation in the general case more or less convenient when passing into GPU
19:16:13 <Leonard> Brandon: Hard to say... may produce results that may or may not look good
19:16:16 <cabanier> q+
19:17:27 <Leonard> ... other choice is to send in a number of indenity arrays -- but that could cause major problems
19:18:03 <adarose> ack cabanier
19:18:22 <Manishearth> q+
19:18:51 <Leonard> Rik: May need to take an all-or-nothing, at least for hands.
19:21:21 <adarose> ack Manishearth
19:21:59 <alexturn> q{
19:22:00 <alexturn> q+
19:22:02 <Leonard> Manish: Does radius need to be nullable? If it is required, then providing reasonable defaults is fine.
19:22:43 <adarose> ack alexturn
19:22:46 <Leonard> ... FALSE is returned if single NULL is in the array.
19:22:47 <cabanier> +1
19:24:02 <Leonard> Alex: No platform would provide a missing single joint -- the whole hand would be emulated
19:24:07 <adarose> ack cabanier
19:24:43 <Manishearth> https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr-hand-input/issues/23
19:24:46 <atsushi> zakim, take up agendum 2
19:24:46 <Zakim> agendum 2. "webxr-hand-input#46 Return boolean from fill methods" taken up [from atsushi]
19:25:00 <atsushi> zakim, take up agendum 3
19:25:00 <Zakim> agendum 3. "layers#202 Publish first Working draft of the layers spec" taken up [from atsushi]
19:25:43 <Leonard> Ada: previous agenda item  -- https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr-hand-input/pull/46
19:25:53 <Leonard> Layers: https://github.com/immersive-web/layers/issues/202
19:25:54 <atsushi> rrsagent, publish minutes v2
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19:26:58 <Leonard> Rik: Ready to publish as 1st Working Draft
19:27:25 <Leonard> Rik: No objections
19:28:12 <atsushi> chair: Ada
19:28:18 <Leonard> Manish: Privacy issue (missed the details)
19:29:26 <Leonard> q+
19:29:40 <avadacatavra> q+
19:30:02 <adarose> ack Leonard
19:30:51 <avadacatavra> first published working draft of hands spec
19:30:57 <adarose> ack avadacatavra
19:31:10 <Leonard> What avadacatavra said
19:31:46 <Leonard> Diane: A lot of issues to identifiy what needs to be mitigated. A lot of work needs to be done on hands spec.
19:32:15 <Leonard> ... Hesitant to let mitigation postpone 1st WD.
19:33:15 <atsushi> topic: Administravia
19:33:21 <Leonard> Diane: [New Topic] Leaving mixed reality in a new job. Participation only for the next couple of weeks. Anything for Diane
19:33:32 <Leonard> ... needs to get to her quickly
19:33:32 <cabanier> 😢
19:33:53 <yonet> Good luck in your next adventure Diane.
19:34:31 <Leonard> [WG] Lots of thanks, appreciation, and congratulations...
19:36:02 <Leonard> Brandon: Privacy discussion generated a proposal on the repo (#1124). A little feedback has already appeared
19:36:05 <Leonard> ... Please look
19:36:27 <Leonard> Ada: Do the Doodle poll today! (for TPAC date)
19:36:56 <adarose> https://doodle.com/poll/znr4vwkqabap2bt2?utm_campaign=poll_added_participant_admin&utm_medium=email&utm_source=poll_transactional&utm_content=gotopoll-cta#table
19:37:50 <Leonard> Ada: Meeting adjourned.
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