IRC log of immersive-web on 2020-09-15
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- 18:53:48 [RRSAgent]
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2020/09/15-immersive-web-irc
- 18:54:06 [atsushi]
- zakim, clear agenda
- 18:54:06 [Zakim]
- agenda cleared
- 18:55:57 [atsushi]
- agenda+ webxr-hand-input#44 Add support for fillJointRadii and fillPoses
- 18:56:04 [atsushi]
- agenda+ webxr-hand-input#46 Return boolean from fill methods
- 18:56:12 [atsushi]
- agenda+ layers#202 Publish first Working draft of the layers spec
- 18:56:19 [Leonard]
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- 18:56:20 [atsushi]
- agenda: https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/blob/main/meetings/cg/2020-09-15-Immersive_Web_Community_Group_Teleconference-agenda.md
- 18:56:26 [Leonard]
- present+
- 18:56:27 [atsushi]
- atsushi has changed the topic to: https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/blob/main/meetings/cg/2020-09-15-Immersive_Web_Community_Group_Teleconference-agenda.md
- 18:56:36 [atsushi]
- date: 15 Sep 2020
- 18:57:05 [atsushi]
- previous meeting: https://w3.org/2020/08/18-immersive-web-minutes.html
- 18:57:16 [atsushi]
- meeting: Immersive Web Community Group Teleconference
- 18:58:28 [atsushi]
- rrsagent, make log public
- 18:58:33 [atsushi]
- rrsagent, publish minutes v2
- 18:58:33 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/09/15-immersive-web-minutes.html atsushi
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- 19:01:15 [cabanier]
- present+
- 19:01:27 [bajones]
- present+
- 19:02:35 [Manishearth]
- present+
- 19:03:11 [avadacatavra]
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- 19:03:26 [cwilso]
- present+
- 19:03:32 [atsushi]
- present+
- 19:03:36 [avadacatavra]
- present+
- 19:04:03 [adarose]
- present+
- 19:04:32 [Leonard]
- scribe Leonard
- 19:04:40 [dino]
- present+
- 19:04:44 [atsushi]
- s/scribe Leonard/scribe: Leonard/
- 19:04:48 [atsushi]
- rrsagent, publish minutes v2
- 19:04:48 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/09/15-immersive-web-minutes.html atsushi
- 19:05:01 [alexturn]
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- 19:05:32 [alexturn]
- present+
- 19:05:34 [kip]
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- 19:05:40 [kip]
- present+
- 19:06:11 [Leonard]
- Ada: Review & submit responses for TPAC call in October
- 19:06:22 [Leonard]
- Ada: <offline now... :-( ?
- 19:06:33 [yonet]
- present+
- 19:06:56 [Leonard]
- https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr-hand-input/pull/44
- 19:07:11 [adarose]
- webex failed
- 19:07:13 [atsushi]
- zakim, take up agendum 1
- 19:07:13 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "webxr-hand-input#44 Add support for fillJointRadii and fillPoses" taken up [from atsushi]
- 19:07:26 [Leonard]
- Brandon: Picking up...
- 19:07:29 [RafaelCintron]
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- 19:07:50 [Leonard]
- [Ada returns]
- 19:08:46 [Manishearth]
- https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr-hand-input/pull/44
- 19:09:24 [Leonard]
- Manish: Previously discussed to allow the handling of all hand joints without having to create 100's of objects each frame
- 19:09:36 [Manishearth]
- https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr-hand-input/pull/46
- 19:09:52 [Leonard]
- ... currently in Hands repo, but if desired can be inserted into future version of Core
- 19:09:59 [cabanier]
- +1
- 19:10:07 [Leonard]
- ... still deciding on need for Boolean -- see PR
- 19:10:11 [cabanier]
- q+
- 19:10:19 [adarose]
- ack cabanier
- 19:10:28 [Leonard]
- Rik: Boolean return is next agenda item
- 19:10:36 [Leonard]
- q+
- 19:10:46 [Manishearth]
- q+
- 19:10:56 [bajones]
- q+
- 19:11:15 [Manishearth]
- ack L
- 19:11:20 [adarose]
- ack Leonard
- 19:11:27 [lgombos]
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- 19:12:54 [adarose]
- ack Manishearth
- 19:13:00 [Leonard]
- OGC has GeoPose WG. Potential for overuse of over-specification of "Pose"
- 19:13:13 [Leonard]
- Manish: Agrees, but just for knowledge
- 19:13:29 [adarose]
- ack bajones
- 19:13:34 [Leonard]
- Manish: (to Rik) can have this and a dictionary API if needed
- 19:13:41 [alexturn]
- q+
- 19:13:43 [Leonard]
- Brandon: Agree with Manish
- 19:14:02 [adarose]
- ack alexturn
- 19:14:39 [bajones]
- q+
- 19:14:44 [adarose]
- ack bajones
- 19:14:45 [Leonard]
- Alex: Is the representation in the general case more or less convenient when passing into GPU
- 19:16:13 [Leonard]
- Brandon: Hard to say... may produce results that may or may not look good
- 19:16:16 [cabanier]
- q+
- 19:17:27 [Leonard]
- ... other choice is to send in a number of indenity arrays -- but that could cause major problems
- 19:18:03 [adarose]
- ack cabanier
- 19:18:22 [Manishearth]
- q+
- 19:18:51 [Leonard]
- Rik: May need to take an all-or-nothing, at least for hands.
- 19:21:21 [adarose]
- ack Manishearth
- 19:21:59 [alexturn]
- q{
- 19:22:00 [alexturn]
- q+
- 19:22:02 [Leonard]
- Manish: Does radius need to be nullable? If it is required, then providing reasonable defaults is fine.
- 19:22:43 [adarose]
- ack alexturn
- 19:22:46 [Leonard]
- ... FALSE is returned if single NULL is in the array.
- 19:22:47 [cabanier]
- +1
- 19:24:02 [Leonard]
- Alex: No platform would provide a missing single joint -- the whole hand would be emulated
- 19:24:07 [adarose]
- ack cabanier
- 19:24:43 [Manishearth]
- https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr-hand-input/issues/23
- 19:24:46 [atsushi]
- zakim, take up agendum 2
- 19:24:46 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "webxr-hand-input#46 Return boolean from fill methods" taken up [from atsushi]
- 19:25:00 [atsushi]
- zakim, take up agendum 3
- 19:25:00 [Zakim]
- agendum 3. "layers#202 Publish first Working draft of the layers spec" taken up [from atsushi]
- 19:25:43 [Leonard]
- Ada: previous agenda item -- https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr-hand-input/pull/46
- 19:25:53 [Leonard]
- Layers: https://github.com/immersive-web/layers/issues/202
- 19:25:54 [atsushi]
- rrsagent, publish minutes v2
- 19:25:54 [RRSAgent]
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- 19:26:58 [Leonard]
- Rik: Ready to publish as 1st Working Draft
- 19:27:25 [Leonard]
- Rik: No objections
- 19:28:12 [atsushi]
- chair: Ada
- 19:28:18 [Leonard]
- Manish: Privacy issue (missed the details)
- 19:29:26 [Leonard]
- q+
- 19:29:40 [avadacatavra]
- q+
- 19:30:02 [adarose]
- ack Leonard
- 19:30:51 [avadacatavra]
- first published working draft of hands spec
- 19:30:57 [adarose]
- ack avadacatavra
- 19:31:10 [Leonard]
- What avadacatavra said
- 19:31:46 [Leonard]
- Diane: A lot of issues to identifiy what needs to be mitigated. A lot of work needs to be done on hands spec.
- 19:32:15 [Leonard]
- ... Hesitant to let mitigation postpone 1st WD.
- 19:33:15 [atsushi]
- topic: Administravia
- 19:33:21 [Leonard]
- Diane: [New Topic] Leaving mixed reality in a new job. Participation only for the next couple of weeks. Anything for Diane
- 19:33:32 [Leonard]
- ... needs to get to her quickly
- 19:33:32 [cabanier]
- 😢
- 19:33:53 [yonet]
- Good luck in your next adventure Diane.
- 19:34:31 [Leonard]
- [WG] Lots of thanks, appreciation, and congratulations...
- 19:36:02 [Leonard]
- Brandon: Privacy discussion generated a proposal on the repo (#1124). A little feedback has already appeared
- 19:36:05 [Leonard]
- ... Please look
- 19:36:27 [Leonard]
- Ada: Do the Doodle poll today! (for TPAC date)
- 19:36:56 [adarose]
- https://doodle.com/poll/znr4vwkqabap2bt2?utm_campaign=poll_added_participant_admin&utm_medium=email&utm_source=poll_transactional&utm_content=gotopoll-cta#table
- 19:37:50 [Leonard]
- Ada: Meeting adjourned.
- 19:53:20 [atsushi]
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- 19:53:20 [RRSAgent]
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