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12:54:42 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP
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12:54:43 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
12:54:43 <trackbot> Date: 18 September 2015
12:58:51 <MTCarrasco> present+
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: present+ ←
12:59:07 <RiccardoAlbertoni> RiccardoAlbertoni present+
Riccardo Albertoni: RiccardoAlbertoni present+ ←
12:59:07 <newtoncalegari> present+ newtoncalegari
Newton Calegari: present+ newtoncalegari ←
12:59:28 <deirdrelee> present+ deirdrelee
Deirdre Lee: present+ deirdrelee ←
12:59:44 <RiccardoAlbertoni> present+ RiccardoAlbertoni
Riccardo Albertoni: present+ RiccardoAlbertoni ←
12:59:46 <MTCarrasco> present+ MTCarrasco
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: present+ MTCarrasco ←
13:00:11 <deirdrelee> chair: deirdrelee
13:00:15 <deirdrelee> scribe MTCarrasco
Deirdre Lee: scribe MTCarrasco ←
13:00:24 <PeterWinstanley_> present+ PeterWinstanley
Peter Winstanley: present+ PeterWinstanley ←
13:00:28 <deirdrelee> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150918
13:02:57 <phila> -> http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/3448439 Sao Paulo weather
Phil Archer: -> http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/3448439 Sao Paulo weather ←
13:03:15 <deirdrelee> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150918
13:03:16 <phila> phila has changed the topic to: Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150918 WebEx: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c0af451188e3c2177f8d56453c588e9
Phil Archer: phila has changed the topic to: Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150918 WebEx: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c0af451188e3c2177f8d56453c588e9 ←
13:03:24 <phila> scribe: MTCarrasco
(Scribe set to Manuel Carrasco Benitez)
13:03:28 <phila> present+ phila
Phil Archer: present+ phila ←
13:03:33 <BernadetteLoscio> present +BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: present +BernadetteLoscio ←
13:03:39 <phila> chair: Deirdre
13:03:48 <MTCarrasco> TOPIC: Prelimenaries
13:03:50 <deirdrelee> PROPOSED: As there was no agenda circulated previous to the meeting, accept issues closed and resolutions reached during last week's meeting http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-09-11
PROPOSED: As there was no agenda circulated previous to the meeting, accept issues closed and resolutions reached during last week's meeting http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-09-11 ←
13:04:02 <deirdrelee> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
13:04:07 <newtoncalegari> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
13:04:07 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1
Riccardo Albertoni: +1 ←
13:04:07 <MTCarrasco> 0+
0+ ←
13:04:21 <phila> anyone not happy?
Phil Archer: anyone not happy? ←
13:04:32 <antoine> present+ antoine
Antoine Isaac: present+ antoine ←
13:04:33 <BernadetteLoscio> i was not here in the last call :(
Bernadette Farias Loscio: i was not here in the last call :( ←
13:04:38 <deirdrelee> RESOLVED: As there was no agenda circulated previous to the meeting, accept issues closed and resolutions reached during last week's meeting http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-09-11
RESOLVED: As there was no agenda circulated previous to the meeting, accept issues closed and resolutions reached during last week's meeting http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-09-11 ←
13:04:49 <deirdrelee> PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-09-11
PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-09-11 ←
13:04:52 <annette_g1> present+ annette_g
Annette Greiner: present+ annette_g ←
13:04:56 <newtoncalegari> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
13:04:58 <deirdrelee> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
13:04:59 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1
Riccardo Albertoni: +1 ←
13:05:01 <nandana> +1
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: +1 ←
13:05:02 <antoine> +1
Antoine Isaac: +1 ←
13:05:05 <phila> +1
Phil Archer: +1 ←
13:05:05 <annette_g1> +1
Annette Greiner: +1 ←
13:05:11 <deirdrelee> RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-09-11
RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-09-11 ←
13:05:31 <nandana> present+ nandana
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: present+ nandana ←
13:05:37 <laufer> present+ laufer
Carlos Laufer: present+ laufer ←
13:06:07 <MTCarrasco> TOPIC: Process for publication
13:06:34 <deirdrelee> phila: last-call and candidate recommendation are now the same
Phil Archer: last-call and candidate recommendation are now the same [ Scribe Assist by Deirdre Lee ] ←
13:06:40 <MTCarrasco> phila: examplain the details
Phil Archer: examplain the details ←
13:07:18 <deirdrelee> MTCarrasco: we need to record the details of what phila is describing
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: we need to record the details of what phila is describing [ Scribe Assist by Deirdre Lee ] ←
13:07:19 <MTCarrasco> phila: aim for last call candiate rec
Phil Archer: aim for last call candiate rec ←
13:08:09 <BernadetteLoscio_> present +BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: present +BernadetteLoscio ←
13:08:09 <MTCarrasco> phila: meeting with the director, editor, etc
Phil Archer: meeting with the director, editor, etc ←
13:08:36 <deirdrelee> phila: once the editors are happy with final working draft, they propose last call
Phil Archer: once the editors are happy with final working draft, they propose last call [ Scribe Assist by Deirdre Lee ] ←
13:09:04 <deirdrelee> ..they then have meeting with w3c directors, chairs, editors
Deirdre Lee: ..they then have meeting with w3c directors, chairs, editors ←
13:09:11 <MTCarrasco> phila: the director is concerned with the form not the content
Phil Archer: the director is concerned with the form not the content ←
13:09:29 <deirdrelee> ..direcotr will ask if all issues have been addressed, all comments have been addressed, those that comment are happy wth resolution, etc
Deirdre Lee: ..direcotr will ask if all issues have been addressed, all comments have been addressed, those that comment are happy wth resolution, etc ←
13:09:50 <MTCarrasco> phila: only then it can go to candidate recommendation
Phil Archer: only then it can go to candidate recommendation ←
13:10:00 <SumitPurohit> present+ SumitPurohit
Sumit Purohit: present+ SumitPurohit ←
13:10:16 <MTCarrasco> phila: aftern all this it can go to propose rec
Phil Archer: aftern all this it can go to propose rec ←
13:10:20 <deirdrelee> .. only then will they agree to go to last call. to go on last call there has to be a criteria agreed with the director so they know when group's work is done
Deirdre Lee: .. only then will they agree to go to last call. to go on last call there has to be a criteria agreed with the director so they know when group's work is done ←
13:11:04 <deirdrelee> .. once directtor agrees with criteria of last call, then the document goes to candidate recommendation
Deirdre Lee: .. once directtor agrees with criteria of last call, then the document goes to candidate recommendation ←
13:11:10 <SumitPurohit> +q
Sumit Purohit: +q ←
13:11:21 <MTCarrasco> phila: the vocabularies will be notes the process do not apply
Phil Archer: the vocabularies will be notes the process do not apply ←
13:12:12 <deirdrelee> ..then the group addresses the criteria, the director takes over then, an dthe membership will vote to go to recommendation
Deirdre Lee: ..then the group addresses the criteria, the director takes over then, an dthe membership will vote to go to recommendation ←
13:12:22 <MTCarrasco> SumitPurohit: question to phila
Sumit Purohit: question to phila ←
13:12:33 <deirdrelee> ..bp doc criteria could be something like to find two implemenations of each bp
Deirdre Lee: ..bp doc criteria could be something like to find two implemenations of each bp ←
13:12:39 <deirdrelee> ack SumitPurohit
Deirdre Lee: ack SumitPurohit ←
13:13:09 <deirdrelee> phila: this only applies to bp doc, unless we want to publish dqv and duv as recommendations too
Phil Archer: this only applies to bp doc, unless we want to publish dqv and duv as recommendations too [ Scribe Assist by Deirdre Lee ] ←
13:13:11 <MTCarrasco> phila: recommendation more strict - two independent implemenations
Phil Archer: recommendation more strict - two independent implemenations ←
13:13:23 <BernadetteLoscio_> q+
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+ ←
13:13:41 <MTCarrasco> phila: BP less strict
Phil Archer: BP less strict ←
13:14:31 <phila> The process is described in detail at http://www.w3.org/2015/Process-20150901/#Reports
Phil Archer: The process is described in detail at http://www.w3.org/2015/Process-20150901/#Reports ←
13:14:42 <annette_g1> last call and candidate rec are the same
Annette Greiner: last call and candidate rec are the same ←
13:14:42 <annette_g1> to go to candidate rec requires
Annette Greiner: to go to candidate rec requires ←
13:14:42 <annette_g1> phone call w/dir, editors, chairs, Phil
Annette Greiner: phone call w/dir, editors, chairs, Phil ←
13:14:42 <annette_g1> we've got widespread review
Annette Greiner: we've got widespread review ←
13:14:43 <annette_g1> we're ready for candidate rec phase
Annette Greiner: we're ready for candidate rec phase ←
13:14:43 <annette_g1> this is our exit criteria
Annette Greiner: this is our exit criteria ←
13:14:43 <annette_g1> usually Philipe l'hegare takes director's place
Annette Greiner: usually Philipe l'hegare takes director's place ←
13:14:44 <annette_g1> have you answered all the comments satisfactorily
Annette Greiner: have you answered all the comments satisfactorily ←
13:14:44 <annette_g1> when you go to CR, you state your criteria for ending candidate rec
Annette Greiner: when you go to CR, you state your criteria for ending candidate rec ←
13:14:44 <annette_g1> e.g., every BP has been implemented/followed by at least 2 independent people
Annette Greiner: e.g., every BP has been implemented/followed by at least 2 independent people ←
13:14:45 <annette_g1> when done, go to proposed rec, membership votes
Annette Greiner: when done, go to proposed rec, membership votes ←
13:14:45 <annette_g1>
13:14:45 <annette_g1> we're expecting the vocabs to be notes, so only BP doc needs all this.
Annette Greiner: we're expecting the vocabs to be notes, so only BP doc needs all this. ←
13:14:50 <phila> Notes are less strict than Recommendations. The BP doc is expected to be a Rec, the vocabs are not
Phil Archer: Notes are less strict than Recommendations. The BP doc is expected to be a Rec, the vocabs are not ←
13:15:23 <deirdrelee> ack BernadetteLoscio_
Deirdre Lee: ack BernadetteLoscio_ ←
13:15:54 <annette_g1> BernadetteLoscio_: we made a proposal for a timetable, not sure how long it will take for each step
Bernadette Farias Loscio: we made a proposal for a timetable, not sure how long it will take for each step [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:16:06 <BernadetteLoscio_> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/BP_timetable
Bernadette Farias Loscio: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/BP_timetable ←
13:16:26 <MTCarrasco> phila: the last call was minimun three weeks
Phil Archer: the last call was minimun three weeks ←
13:16:34 <annette_g1> phila: last call used to be 3 weeks, now ?? probably at least 4 weeks, um....
Phil Archer: last call used to be 3 weeks, now ?? probably at least 4 weeks, um.... [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:17:30 <annette_g1> … in practical terms, what you're saying is we're not going to change this doc until you tell us to. The period should not be less than 4 weeks. In fact, it will take that long to gather all the implementation info.
Annette Greiner: … in practical terms, what you're saying is we're not going to change this doc until you tell us to. The period should not be less than 4 weeks. In fact, it will take that long to gather all the implementation info. ←
13:17:47 <BernadetteLoscio_> q+
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+ ←
13:18:00 <deirdrelee> ack BernadetteLoscio_
Deirdre Lee: ack BernadetteLoscio_ ←
13:18:07 <MTCarrasco> deirdrelee: it could be several months
Deirdre Lee: it could be several months ←
13:18:13 <annette_g1> BernadetteLoscio_: which period are you talking about?
Bernadette Farias Loscio: which period are you talking about? [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:18:16 <nandana> must specify the deadline for further comments, which must be at least four weeks after publication, and should be longer for complex documents,. -> http://www.w3.org/2015/Process-20150901/#revised-cr
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: must specify the deadline for further comments, which must be at least four weeks after publication, and should be longer for complex documents,. -> http://www.w3.org/2015/Process-20150901/#revised-cr ←
13:19:29 <annette_g1> phila: the point where the group says "we think we have it", this is the candidate rec. There's no defined timeline between now and when you go into CR.
Phil Archer: the point where the group says "we think we have it", this is the candidate rec. There's no defined timeline between now and when you go into CR. [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:19:32 <MTCarrasco> phila: this doc represents the best we can do and there is not a fix time for the period gathering more information
Phil Archer: this doc represents the best we can do and there is not a fix time for the period gathering more information ←
13:19:33 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:19:40 <PeterWinstanley_> q+
Peter Winstanley: q+ ←
13:19:53 <annette_g1> BernadetteLoscio_: we should review the dates together at the F2F
Bernadette Farias Loscio: we should review the dates together at the F2F [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:20:44 <annette_g1> BernadetteLoscio_: first we need more feedback on the doc, then we can start the implementations
Bernadette Farias Loscio: first we need more feedback on the doc, then we can start the implementations [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:21:21 <annette_g1> phila: the group runs out of time in June next year
Phil Archer: the group runs out of time in June next year [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:21:42 <annette_g1> … March would be the absolute latest to go to CR
Annette Greiner: … March would be the absolute latest to go to CR ←
13:22:01 <MTCarrasco> phila: March is the lastest - try to have it ready by the end of the year of January
Phil Archer: March is the lastest - try to have it ready by the end of the year of January ←
13:22:07 <annette_g1> January would be better, so we can work out substantive changes
Annette Greiner: January would be better, so we can work out substantive changes ←
13:22:30 <MTCarrasco> phile: meaningfull changes one has to go back to draft
Phil Archer: meaningfull changes one has to go back to draft ←
13:22:40 <annette_g1> phila: CR may or may not be a one-time thing.
Phil Archer: CR may or may not be a one-time thing. [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:23:08 <annette_g1> phila: we should try to get to CR before Christmas
Phil Archer: we should try to get to CR before Christmas [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:23:19 <gatemezi> s/phile/phila
13:23:41 <annette_g1> BernadetteLoscio_: do we need to wait for people to implement, or do we all do this?
Bernadette Farias Loscio: do we need to wait for people to implement, or do we all do this? [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:23:51 <annette_g1> phila: we all do it as a community
Phil Archer: we all do it as a community [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:23:54 <phila> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1I-pGDOotOR4adCHwnayX6qYqme1K-UUHQgxuADNPQA0/viewform?c=0&w=1
Phil Archer: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1I-pGDOotOR4adCHwnayX6qYqme1K-UUHQgxuADNPQA0/viewform?c=0&w=1 ←
13:24:21 <PeterWinstanley_> q-
Peter Winstanley: q- ←
13:24:37 <deirdrelee> q+
Deirdre Lee: q+ ←
13:24:42 <annette_g1> phila: This goodle form is SharePSI's implementation form. It inlcudes a bunch of our stuff at the end, so that's a start for us.
Phil Archer: This goodle form is SharePSI's implementation form. It inlcudes a bunch of our stuff at the end, so that's a start for us. [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:24:49 <adler1> sorry, that is not a real implementation
Steven Adler: sorry, that is not a real implementation ←
13:24:50 <yaso> present+ yaso
Yaso Córdova: present+ yaso ←
13:25:00 <MTCarrasco> phila: if lots of people do the form is evidence
Phil Archer: if lots of people do the form is evidence ←
13:25:09 <adler1> theoretical implementations do not make a difference in the world
Steven Adler: theoretical implementations do not make a difference in the world ←
13:25:11 <gatemezi> That's just an evaluation form..
Ghislain Atemezing: That's just an evaluation form.. ←
13:25:12 <annette_g1> that is a super long form!!
Annette Greiner: that is a super long form!! ←
13:25:47 <MTCarrasco> phila: if it has been already implemented, the meeting takes one minute
Phil Archer: if it has been already implemented, the meeting takes one minute ←
13:25:49 <yaso> A unicorn implementation!
Yaso Córdova: A unicorn implementation! ←
13:25:56 <adler1> q+
Steven Adler: q+ ←
13:26:09 <annette_g1> phila: we'll need to build a table that shows the sets of BPs that each implementer implemented
Phil Archer: we'll need to build a table that shows the sets of BPs that each implementer implemented [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:26:31 <adler1> I can wait to discuss this next week
Steven Adler: I can wait to discuss this next week ←
13:26:37 <adler1> q-
Steven Adler: q- ←
13:26:45 <newtoncalegari> not all of "implementers" will implement each one of the BPs, is that right?
Newton Calegari: not all of "implementers" will implement each one of the BPs, is that right? ←
13:26:56 <deirdrelee> ack deirdrelee
Deirdre Lee: ack deirdrelee ←
13:26:56 <annette_g1> deirdrelee: is there a way to collect names?
Deirdre Lee: is there a way to collect names? [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:27:03 <annette_g1> phila: yes
Phil Archer: yes [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:27:05 <MTCarrasco> TOPIC: F2F
13:27:09 <deirdrelee> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Sao_Paulo
Deirdre Lee: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Sao_Paulo ←
13:27:15 <adler1> q+
Steven Adler: q+ ←
13:27:19 <annette_g1> deirdrelee: agenda for the F2F
Deirdre Lee: agenda for the F2F [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:27:20 <adler1> how safe is Sao Paolo?
Steven Adler: how safe is Sao Paolo? ←
13:27:46 <MTCarrasco> deirdrelee: list with the different types of attendes
Deirdre Lee: list with the different types of attendes ←
13:27:53 <annette_g1> deirdrelee: add your name to the list to say if you'll be there, be there remotely, etc.
Deirdre Lee: add your name to the list to say if you'll be there, be there remotely, etc. [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:28:11 <gatemezi> How "safe"?
Ghislain Atemezing: How "safe"? ←
13:28:38 <yaso> q+
Yaso Córdova: q+ ←
13:28:44 <yaso> q+
Yaso Córdova: q+ ←
13:28:50 <newtoncalegari> Yaso is going to answer his question
Newton Calegari: Yaso is going to answer his question ←
13:29:13 <deirdrelee> ack adler1
Deirdre Lee: ack adler1 ←
13:29:18 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:29:22 <deirdrelee> ack adler
Deirdre Lee: ack adler ←
13:29:30 <annette_g1> newtoncalegari: Sao Paolo is not a dangerous place, though its' best not to be wandering alone at midnight downtown.
Newton Calegari: Sao Paolo is not a dangerous place, though its' best not to be wandering alone at midnight downtown. [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:29:32 <MTCarrasco> newtoncalegari: safe but be careful
Newton Calegari: safe but be careful ←
13:29:48 <annette_g1> adler1: some people have warned him about showing camera, touristy stuff
Steven Adler: some people have warned him about showing camera, touristy stuff [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:29:57 <annette_g1> newtoncalegari: yes, you have to be careful about that
Newton Calegari: yes, you have to be careful about that [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:30:22 <annette_g1> adler1: be careful which taxis you take, don't take out a cell phone and use it for a map
Steven Adler: be careful which taxis you take, don't take out a cell phone and use it for a map [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:30:54 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:30:58 <yaso> q-
Yaso Córdova: q- ←
13:31:05 <annette_g1> newtoncalegari: I think you don't have a problem with the cell phone as a map, just be aware at midnight. It's okay to bring a camera; I've never had a problem with taxis in SP
Newton Calegari: I think you don't have a problem with the cell phone as a map, just be aware at midnight. It's okay to bring a camera; I've never had a problem with taxis in SP [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:31:11 <MTCarrasco> newtoncalegari: take the camera - not problem -be ware and be carefuk
Newton Calegari: take the camera - not problem -be ware and be carefuk ←
13:31:45 <phila> Start time is http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=blah&iso=20150924T08&p1=233&ah=8
Phil Archer: Start time is http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=blah&iso=20150924T08&p1=233&ah=8 ←
13:31:58 <phila> That's 8am SP time
Phil Archer: That's 8am SP time ←
13:32:09 <SumitPurohit> SumitPurohit: and ericstephan at pacific time
Sumit Purohit: and ericstephan at pacific time [ Scribe Assist by Sumit Purohit ] ←
13:32:12 <annette_g1> deirdrelee: time difference: SP is notable
Deirdre Lee: time difference: SP is notable [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:32:21 <yaso> I would start at 9
Yaso Córdova: I would start at 9 ←
13:32:21 <annette_g1> .. is it a problem for anyone?
Annette Greiner: .. is it a problem for anyone? ←
13:32:27 <ericstephan> (eric s - currently reading through IRC and flying over the Rocky Mountains) I will attempt to remotely attend as much as possible but I am only committing to the DUV session.
Eric Stephan: (eric s - currently reading through IRC and flying over the Rocky Mountains) I will attempt to remotely attend as much as possible but I am only committing to the DUV session. ←
13:33:10 <MTCarrasco> deirdrelee: DUV at an appropriate time for Eric
Deirdre Lee: DUV at an appropriate time for Eric ←
13:33:14 <annette_g1> I think it's okay
Annette Greiner: I think it's okay ←
13:33:34 <annette_g1> * hit return, Phil
Annette Greiner: * hit return, Phil ←
13:33:38 <yaso> q+
Yaso Córdova: q+ ←
13:34:12 <MTCarrasco> deirdrelee: In Brasil starting early and the European not leaving too late
Deirdre Lee: In Brasil starting early and the European not leaving too late ←
13:34:14 <annette_g1> yaso: inaudible
Yaso Córdova: inaudible [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:34:22 <Caroline_> Here there are some tips about São Paulo and places to visit in Engilsh http://www.fiquemaisumdia.com.br/
Caroline Burle: Here there are some tips about São Paulo and places to visit in Engilsh http://www.fiquemaisumdia.com.br/ ←
13:34:50 <MTCarrasco> yaso: suggest starting at 9:00
Yaso Córdova: suggest starting at 9:00 ←
13:35:20 <annette_g1> yaso: I would suggest we start at 9 because of traffic
Yaso Córdova: I would suggest we start at 9 because of traffic [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:35:32 <laufer> we can go by metro and train to the event... I think is ok...
Carlos Laufer: we can go by metro and train to the event... I think is ok... ←
13:35:40 <annette_g1> deirdrelee: only problem is that it will get very late for people elsewhere
Deirdre Lee: only problem is that it will get very late for people elsewhere [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:35:59 <ericstephan> SumitPurohit: we could attend DUV via a conference room if you'd prefer...
Sumit Purohit: we could attend DUV via a conference room if you'd prefer... [ Scribe Assist by Eric Stephan ] ←
13:36:14 <MTCarrasco> yaso: about 50 minutes to the conference place
Yaso Córdova: about 50 minutes to the conference place ←
13:36:20 <annette_g1> yaso: the hotel is 50 minutes away from the meeting
Yaso Córdova: the hotel is 50 minutes away from the meeting [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:36:30 <adler1> I am staying at the hilton
Steven Adler: I am staying at the hilton ←
13:36:33 <annette_g1> deirdrelee: remote people?
Deirdre Lee: remote people? [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:36:45 <adler1> are we not meeting at the conference venue?
Steven Adler: are we not meeting at the conference venue? ←
13:36:50 <antoine> q+
Antoine Isaac: q+ ←
13:36:50 <annette_g1> It depends how late it goes
Annette Greiner: It depends how late it goes ←
13:36:55 <newtoncalegari> it's 50 minutes to the meeting place... and 5 minutes to the conference place
Newton Calegari: it's 50 minutes to the meeting place... and 5 minutes to the conference place ←
13:37:11 <adler1> what is the address of the meeting place
Steven Adler: what is the address of the meeting place ←
13:37:14 <deirdrelee> ack yaso
Deirdre Lee: ack yaso ←
13:37:21 <laufer> In our last F2F we have to be awake very early too... I do not see a problem in waking up at 6...
Carlos Laufer: In our last F2F we have to be awake very early too... I do not see a problem in waking up at 6... ←
13:37:22 <deirdrelee> ack antoine
Deirdre Lee: ack antoine ←
13:37:47 <annette_g1> antoine: pretty sure he can't do late on a Friday
Antoine Isaac: pretty sure he can't do late on a Friday [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:37:50 <MTCarrasco> antoine: not ideal ... it is as good as it can get
Antoine Isaac: not ideal ... it is as good as it can get ←
13:37:50 <yaso> Guys
Yaso Córdova: Guys ←
13:37:54 <yaso> q+
Yaso Córdova: q+ ←
13:38:17 <laufer> or meeting in Austin begun 7 a.m.
Carlos Laufer: or meeting in Austin begun 7 a.m. ←
13:38:36 <adler1> what is the address of the meeting place?
Steven Adler: what is the address of the meeting place? ←
13:38:49 <MTCarrasco> yaso: cannot hear
Yaso Córdova: cannot hear ←
13:39:08 <yaso> Newton is going to help you to come to nic.br
Yaso Córdova: Newton is going to help you to come to nic.br ←
13:39:26 <yaso> ok to start at 8 am, Newton is going to help
Yaso Córdova: ok to start at 8 am, Newton is going to help ←
13:39:33 <phila> q?
Phil Archer: q? ←
13:39:38 <yaso> q-
Yaso Córdova: q- ←
13:39:43 <phila> q+ to talk about WebEx
Phil Archer: q+ to talk about WebEx ←
13:40:16 <MTCarrasco> phila: it is a different WebEx
Phil Archer: it is a different WebEx ←
13:40:25 <adler1> I need the address info
Steven Adler: I need the address info ←
13:40:42 <MTCarrasco> phila: it is in the agenda
Phil Archer: it is in the agenda ←
13:41:12 <annette_g1> deirdrelee: goes over agenda for the F2F
Deirdre Lee: goes over agenda for the F2F [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:41:14 <newtoncalegari> Steve: the NIC.br address Av. das Nações Unidas, 11541, 7th floor, 04578-000 - São Paulo - SP
Steven Adler: the NIC.br address Av. das Nações Unidas, 11541, 7th floor, 04578-000 - São Paulo - SP [ Scribe Assist by Newton Calegari ] ←
13:41:28 <newtoncalegari> @adler1 the NIC.br address Av. das Nações Unidas, 11541, 7th floor, 04578-000 - São Paulo - SP
Newton Calegari: @adler1 the NIC.br address Av. das Nações Unidas, 11541, 7th floor, 04578-000 - São Paulo - SP ←
13:41:41 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:41:44 <deirdrelee> ack phila
Deirdre Lee: ack phila ←
13:41:44 <Zakim> phila, you wanted to talk about WebEx
Zakim IRC Bot: phila, you wanted to talk about WebEx ←
13:41:48 <BernadetteLoscio_> q+
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+ ←
13:41:49 <SumitPurohit> q
Sumit Purohit: q ←
13:41:49 <MTCarrasco> deirdrelee: 4 session
Deirdre Lee: 4 session ←
13:41:56 <annette_g1> deirdrelee: what do people think?
Deirdre Lee: what do people think? [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:42:16 <MTCarrasco> BernadetteLoscio_: the BP doc more time
Bernadette Farias Loscio: the BP doc more time ←
13:42:29 <MTCarrasco> BernadetteLoscio_: as going to the final version
Bernadette Farias Loscio: as going to the final version ←
13:42:38 <deirdrelee> ack BernadetteLoscio_
Deirdre Lee: ack BernadetteLoscio_ ←
13:42:42 <BernadetteLoscio_> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/F2F_S%C3%A3o_Paulo_-_Agenda_Proposal_DWBP
Bernadette Farias Loscio: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/F2F_S%C3%A3o_Paulo_-_Agenda_Proposal_DWBP ←
13:42:55 <MTCarrasco> BernadetteLoscio_: sent message with the proposed agenda
Bernadette Farias Loscio: sent message with the proposed agenda ←
13:43:23 <MTCarrasco> BernadetteLoscio_: do not if it can cover all - have a try
Bernadette Farias Loscio: do not if it can cover all - have a try ←
13:44:06 <MTCarrasco> SumitPurohit: cannot hear ( can you self-scribe?)
Sumit Purohit: cannot hear ( can you self-scribe?) ←
13:44:27 <BernadetteLoscio_> i think so!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: i think so! ←
13:44:34 <deirdrelee> 3 hrs per vocab and 6 hrs for bp doc
Deirdre Lee: 3 hrs per vocab and 6 hrs for bp doc ←
13:44:46 <SumitPurohit> SumitPurohit: We should have 3 sessions of DQV and DUV and 6 sessions for BP
Sumit Purohit: We should have 3 sessions of DQV and DUV and 6 sessions for BP [ Scribe Assist by Sumit Purohit ] ←
13:45:02 <MTCarrasco> TOPIC: BP doc
13:45:13 <BernadetteLoscio_> q+
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+ ←
13:45:35 <MTCarrasco> deirdrelee: time together is very valuable - what do you want to achive?
Deirdre Lee: time together is very valuable - what do you want to achive? ←
13:45:41 <annette_g1> deirdrelee: it's important for editors to have lists of issues, acitons, questions in advance
Deirdre Lee: it's important for editors to have lists of issues, acitons, questions in advance [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:46:02 <MTCarrasco> deirdrelee: conversation about the maturity level
Deirdre Lee: conversation about the maturity level ←
13:46:32 <annette_g1> deirdrelee: we need to keep a strict timeframe for open discussions
Deirdre Lee: we need to keep a strict timeframe for open discussions [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:46:35 <deirdrelee> ack BernadetteLoscio_
Deirdre Lee: ack BernadetteLoscio_ ←
13:46:50 <BernadetteLoscio_> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/F2F_S%C3%A3o_Paulo_-_Agenda_Proposal_DUV
Bernadette Farias Loscio: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/F2F_S%C3%A3o_Paulo_-_Agenda_Proposal_DUV ←
13:47:07 <annette_g1> BernadetteLoscio_: we have a similar agenda for DUV, sent by mail.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: we have a similar agenda for DUV, sent by mail. [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:47:27 <annette_g1> BernadetteLoscio_: for DUV, we want to close some issues before the F2F.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: for DUV, we want to close some issues before the F2F. [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:47:55 <annette_g1> BernadetteLoscio_: there is a table of open issues. please take a look and see what can be closed.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: there is a table of open issues. please take a look and see what can be closed. [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:48:07 <MTCarrasco> BernadetteLoscio_: some are old
Bernadette Farias Loscio: some are old ←
13:48:24 <MTCarrasco> BernadetteLoscio_: try to close some
Bernadette Farias Loscio: try to close some ←
13:48:26 <annette_g1> BernadetteLoscio_: it's… on the wiki, on the agenda page
Bernadette Farias Loscio: it's… on the wiki, on the agenda page [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:49:18 <annette_g1> * hi Caroline!
Annette Greiner: * hi Caroline! ←
13:49:25 <MTCarrasco> deirdrelee: important to clean up to focus
Deirdre Lee: important to clean up to focus ←
13:50:09 <MTCarrasco> deirdrelee: people in charge to decide on the issues by email
Deirdre Lee: people in charge to decide on the issues by email ←
13:50:52 <MTCarrasco> deirdrelee: these documents a continously changing - do the homework
Deirdre Lee: these documents a continously changing - do the homework ←
13:51:08 <annette_g1> deirdrelee: we should all take an hour or so to review the docs ahead of the F2F
Deirdre Lee: we should all take an hour or so to review the docs ahead of the F2F [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:52:07 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:52:59 <MTCarrasco> deirdrelee: any thing about the logistics of the meeting? - from the Brasil team
Deirdre Lee: any thing about the logistics of the meeting? - from the Brasil team ←
13:53:17 <newtoncalegari> http://www.fiquemaisumdia.com.br/
Newton Calegari: http://www.fiquemaisumdia.com.br/ ←
13:53:26 <annette_g1> newtoncalegari: getting to NIC.br, I can get a cab and go to the hotel to pick up
Newton Calegari: getting to NIC.br, I can get a cab and go to the hotel to pick up [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:53:50 <yaso> Aston whatever
Yaso Córdova: Aston whatever ←
13:53:50 <MTCarrasco> newtoncalegari: general tips on Sao Paulo - Caroline put-up a web site
Newton Calegari: general tips on Sao Paulo - Caroline put-up a web site ←
13:54:37 <MTCarrasco> deirdrelee: coffe breaks not in the agenda - we play by ear
Deirdre Lee: coffe breaks not in the agenda - we play by ear ←
13:54:37 <annette_g1> newtoncalegari: will look up times for breakfast
Newton Calegari: will look up times for breakfast [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:54:58 <MTCarrasco> deirdrelee: languages of the conference
Deirdre Lee: languages of the conference ←
13:55:12 <annette_g1> newtoncalegari: both
Newton Calegari: both [ Scribe Assist by Annette Greiner ] ←
13:55:29 <newtoncalegari> https://www.google.com.br/maps/place/Av.+das+Na%C3%A7%C3%B5es+Unidas,+11541+-+Cidade+Mon%C3%A7%C3%B5es,+S%C3%A3o+Paulo+-+SP/@-23.6013762,-46.6951745,17.29z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x94ce50cd25c87a7d:0xaaeaef480109402e?hl=pt-BR
Newton Calegari: https://www.google.com.br/maps/place/Av.+das+Na%C3%A7%C3%B5es+Unidas,+11541+-+Cidade+Mon%C3%A7%C3%B5es,+S%C3%A3o+Paulo+-+SP/@-23.6013762,-46.6951745,17.29z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x94ce50cd25c87a7d:0xaaeaef480109402e?hl=pt-BR ←
13:55:38 <newtoncalegari> Nic.br address in the Map
Newton Calegari: Nic.br address in the Map ←
13:55:43 <annette_g1> * I love the brocure, will review it to get in the mood remotely *
Annette Greiner: * I love the brocure, will review it to get in the mood remotely * ←
13:55:51 <laufer> see you in sp...
Carlos Laufer: see you in sp... ←
13:55:51 <MTCarrasco> Bye
Bye ←
13:55:55 <laufer> bye all
Carlos Laufer: bye all ←
13:55:55 <BernadetteLoscio_> thanks!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: thanks! ←
13:55:56 <nandana> bye
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: bye ←
13:56:00 <RiccardoAlbertoni> have a nice week end!
Riccardo Albertoni: have a nice week end! ←
13:56:02 <SumitPurohit> Thanks Everyone...Bye
Sumit Purohit: Thanks Everyone...Bye ←
13:56:07 <annette_g1> bye!
Annette Greiner: bye! ←
13:56:12 <gatemezi> bye
Ghislain Atemezing: bye ←
13:56:14 <phila> RRSAgent, make logs public
Phil Archer: RRSAgent, make logs public ←
13:57:02 <phila> scribe: annette_g1
(Scribe set to Annette Greiner)
13:58:50 <AdrianoC> Bye!
Adriano Pereira: Bye! ←
14:13:21 <phila> zakim, this is DWBP F2F https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=me0913a1d1a11424af2809d6256da43aa +1-617-324-0000 code 645 223 304
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Phil Archer: zakim, this is DWBP F2F https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=me0913a1d1a11424af2809d6256da43aa +1-617-324-0000 code 645 223 304 ←
14:13:21 <Zakim> got it, phila
Zakim IRC Bot: got it, phila ←
14:13:30 <phila> zakim, code?
Phil Archer: zakim, code? ←
14:13:30 <Zakim> I have been told this is DWBP F2F https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=me0913a1d1a11424af2809d6256da43aa +1-617-324-0000 code 645 223 304
Zakim IRC Bot: I have been told this is DWBP F2F https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=me0913a1d1a11424af2809d6256da43aa +1-617-324-0000 code 645 223 304 ←
14:14:17 <phila> zakim, save this conference description
Phil Archer: zakim, save this conference description ←
14:14:17 <Zakim> this conference description has been saved, phila
Zakim IRC Bot: this conference description has been saved, phila ←
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