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12:57:21 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP
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12:57:21 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
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12:57:22 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
12:57:22 <trackbot> Date: 05 June 2015
12:57:31 <phila> zakim, room for 20?
Phil Archer: zakim, room for 20? ←
12:57:32 <Zakim> sorry, phila; could not schedule an adhoc conference; no bridge connection
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12:58:05 <phila> Agh! We've lost our zakim facility, so, Bart, we need to switch to WebEx now. Hang on while I get up the details
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12:58:17 <deirdrelee> hm, i could dial in though...
Deirdre Lee: hm, i could dial in though... ←
12:58:34 <phila> Really? OK, let me try that. I'd rather not hurredly rearrange things
Phil Archer: Really? OK, let me try that. I'd rather not hurredly rearrange things ←
12:59:06 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here? ←
12:59:06 <Zakim> sorry, deirdrelee, I don't know what conference this is
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12:59:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman, trackbot, rhiaro
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12:59:13 <phila> zakim, this will be DWBP
Phil Archer: zakim, this will be DWBP ←
12:59:13 <Zakim> ok, phila, I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM already started
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12:59:24 <phila> zakim, who is here?
Phil Archer: zakim, who is here? ←
12:59:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see [IPcaller], ??P8, [IPcaller.a]
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12:59:25 <Zakim> On IRC I see antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman, trackbot, rhiaro
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman, trackbot, rhiaro ←
12:59:33 <phila> zakim, ipcaller.a is me
Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller.a is me ←
12:59:33 <Zakim> +phila; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +phila; got it ←
12:59:39 <deirdrelee> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
Deirdre Lee: zakim, [IPcaller] is me ←
12:59:39 <Zakim> +deirdrelee; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +deirdrelee; got it ←
12:59:45 <Zakim> +??P10
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P10 ←
12:59:50 <deirdrelee> zakim, ??P8 is PeterWinstanley
Deirdre Lee: zakim, ??P8 is PeterWinstanley ←
12:59:50 <Zakim> +PeterWinstanley; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +PeterWinstanley; got it ←
12:59:52 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??p10 is me
Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??p10 is me ←
12:59:52 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BartvanLeeuwen; got it ←
13:00:01 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here? ←
13:00:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see deirdrelee, PeterWinstanley, phila, BartvanLeeuwen
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see deirdrelee, PeterWinstanley, phila, BartvanLeeuwen ←
13:00:03 <Zakim> On IRC I see antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman, trackbot, rhiaro
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman, trackbot, rhiaro ←
13:01:00 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:01:13 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me
Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me ←
13:01:13 <Zakim> +antoine; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it ←
13:02:27 <Zakim> + +1.509.554.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.509.554.aaaa ←
13:02:35 <ericstephan> zakim, aaaa is me
Eric Stephan: zakim, aaaa is me ←
13:02:35 <Zakim> +ericstephan; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +ericstephan; got it ←
13:03:20 <phila> chair: deirdrelee
13:03:20 <phila> Guest: Newton Calegari
13:03:50 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here? ←
13:03:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see deirdrelee, PeterWinstanley, phila, BartvanLeeuwen, antoine, ericstephan
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see deirdrelee, PeterWinstanley, phila, BartvanLeeuwen, antoine, ericstephan ←
13:03:52 <Zakim> On IRC I see BernadetteLoscio, SumitPurohit, ericstephan, antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman, trackbot, rhiaro
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see BernadetteLoscio, SumitPurohit, ericstephan, antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman, trackbot, rhiaro ←
13:04:01 <Zakim> + +1.609.947.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.609.947.aabb ←
13:04:18 <deirdrelee> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150605
13:04:24 <Zakim> -antoine
Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine ←
13:04:40 <phila> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150605
13:04:46 <phila> phila has changed the topic to: agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150605
Phil Archer: phila has changed the topic to: agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150605 ←
13:05:04 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:05:07 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me
Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me ←
13:05:07 <Zakim> +antoine; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it ←
13:05:20 <Zakim> + +1.617.646.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.646.aacc ←
13:05:27 <phila> regrets+ Annette, Carol, Hadley
Phil Archer: regrets+ Annette, Carol, Hadley ←
13:05:27 <deirdrelee> Hi BernadetteLoscio, will you be able to join on the phone today?
Deirdre Lee: Hi BernadetteLoscio, will you be able to join on the phone today? ←
13:05:33 <BernadetteLoscio> yes
Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes ←
13:05:43 <deirdrelee> great
Deirdre Lee: great ←
13:06:08 <phila> scribe: phila
(Scribe set to Phil Archer)
13:06:10 <SumitPurohit> zakim:aacc is me
13:06:11 <phila> scribeNick: PeterWinstanley
(Scribe set to Peter Winstanley)
13:06:18 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here? ←
13:06:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see deirdrelee, PeterWinstanley, phila, BartvanLeeuwen, ericstephan, +1.609.947.aabb, antoine, +1.617.646.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see deirdrelee, PeterWinstanley, phila, BartvanLeeuwen, ericstephan, +1.609.947.aabb, antoine, +1.617.646.aacc ←
13:06:20 <Zakim> On IRC I see laufer, Eric_Kauz, BernadetteLoscio, SumitPurohit, ericstephan, antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see laufer, Eric_Kauz, BernadetteLoscio, SumitPurohit, ericstephan, antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman, ←
13:06:20 <Zakim> ... trackbot, rhiaro
Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot, rhiaro ←
13:06:27 <Eric_Kauz> zakim,aabb is me
13:06:27 <Zakim> +Eric_Kauz; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Eric_Kauz; got it ←
13:06:34 <phila> zakim, aacc is SumitPurohit
Phil Archer: zakim, aacc is SumitPurohit ←
13:06:34 <Zakim> +SumitPurohit; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SumitPurohit; got it ←
13:06:36 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:06:40 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio ←
13:06:40 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it ←
13:06:41 <phila> scribeNick: phila
(Scribe set to Phil Archer)
13:06:46 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman ←
13:06:53 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here? ←
13:06:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see deirdrelee, PeterWinstanley, phila, BartvanLeeuwen, ericstephan, Eric_Kauz, antoine, SumitPurohit, BernadetteLoscio, HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see deirdrelee, PeterWinstanley, phila, BartvanLeeuwen, ericstephan, Eric_Kauz, antoine, SumitPurohit, BernadetteLoscio, HadleyBeeman ←
13:06:55 <Zakim> On IRC I see laufer, Eric_Kauz, BernadetteLoscio, SumitPurohit, ericstephan, antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see laufer, Eric_Kauz, BernadetteLoscio, SumitPurohit, ericstephan, antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman, ←
13:06:55 <Zakim> ... trackbot, rhiaro
Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot, rhiaro ←
13:06:57 <phila> regrets- Hadley
regrets- Hadley ←
13:07:00 <BernadetteLoscio> can you hear me?
Bernadette Farias Loscio: can you hear me? ←
13:07:11 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:07:24 <deirdrelee> no BernadetteLoscio
Deirdre Lee: no BernadetteLoscio ←
13:07:29 <laufer> Zakim, IPcaller is me
Carlos Laufer: Zakim, IPcaller is me ←
13:07:29 <Zakim> +laufer; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +laufer; got it ←
13:07:41 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio
Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio ←
13:07:49 <laufer> zakim, mute me
Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me ←
13:07:49 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted ←
13:07:57 <BernadetteLoscio> im gonna connect again
Bernadette Farias Loscio: im gonna connect again ←
13:08:04 <phila> deirdrelee: Overall agenda today is to focus on the FPWD of the DQV and DUV, and the next WD og hte BP doc
Deirdre Lee: Overall agenda today is to focus on the FPWD of the DQV and DUV, and the next WD on the BP doc ←
13:08:15 <phila> deirdrelee: So while we're waiting for Berna to reconnect...
Deirdre Lee: So while we're waiting for Berna to reconnect... ←
13:08:26 <newton> s/og hte/on the
13:08:37 <newton> s/og hte/of the
13:08:46 <phila> antoine: I can go first...
Antoine Isaac: I can go first... ←
13:08:51 <phila> Topic: data Quality Vocab
13:09:01 <phila> antoine: We're still doing some editing (as we speak)
Antoine Isaac: We're still doing some editing (as we speak) ←
13:09:21 <phila> antoine: riccardoAlbertoni is committing a new version of the diagram. We think we're happy with things as they are
Antoine Isaac: riccardoAlbertoni is committing a new version of the diagram. We think we're happy with things as they are ←
13:09:27 <phila> ... still some editorial changes to make.
... still some editorial changes to make. ←
13:09:36 <phila> ... Certainly not finished but we'd like to get some feedback, certainly.
... Certainly not finished but we'd like to get some feedback, certainly. ←
13:09:55 <phila> ... It's also quite stable in that we want to discuss the issues we've identified.
... It's also quite stable in that we want to discuss the issues we've identified. ←
13:10:02 <phila> ... We think the time has come to get more feedback
... We think the time has come to get more feedback ←
13:10:23 <phila> antoine: My understanding is that we've had some feedback and have answered it, apparently with success, so that's the status.
Antoine Isaac: My understanding is that we've had some feedback and have answered it, apparently with success, so that's the status. ←
13:10:34 <phila> deirdrelee: So can we have a quick run through the doc?
Deirdre Lee: So can we have a quick run through the doc? ←
13:10:47 <phila> ... and then we can decide whether we want to vote on it.
... and then we can decide whether we want to vote on it. ←
13:11:21 <phila> deirdrelee: What's the status of DUV, Eric S?
Deirdre Lee: What's the status of DUV, Eric S? ←
13:11:31 <phila> ericstephan: Yes, we're happy to go for a vote today.
Eric Stephan: Yes, we're happy to go for a vote today. ←
13:11:48 <phila> ... We can walk through the model, what's changed, based on feedback that we've been getting.
... We can walk through the model, what's changed, based on feedback that we've been getting. ←
13:12:17 <phila> ... I noticed about 15 mins ago that Joao Paulo has given us some extensive feedback. He would prefer we wait, but because of the timing of his comments, we feel that we need comments from the group
... I noticed about 15 mins ago that Joao Paulo has given us some extensive feedback. He would prefer we wait, but because of the timing of his comments, we feel that we need comments from the group ←
13:12:37 <phila> ... And we really need to push for public comment so we're still hoping for a vote today.
... And we really need to push for public comment so we're still hoping for a vote today. ←
13:12:52 <phila> Topic: DQV Run Through
13:13:10 <antoine> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html
Antoine Isaac: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html ←
13:13:45 <phila> antoine: The draft starts with an intro that I hope reflects what has been expressed
Antoine Isaac: The draft starts with an intro that I hope reflects what has been expressed ←
13:13:52 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:13:54 <phila> ... including some comments from Annette this week that were useful
... including some comments from Annette this week that were useful ←
13:14:11 <phila> antoine: Then the conformance section
Antoine Isaac: Then the conformance section ←
13:14:17 <phila> antoine: namespaces section
Antoine Isaac: namespaces section ←
13:14:59 <phila> antoine: The two bigger issues are whether we can use DAQ and whether we should use the DCAT namespace. We feel it's good to get public feedback.
Antoine Isaac: The two bigger issues are whether we can use DAQ and whether we should use the DCAT namespace. We feel it's good to get public feedback. ←
13:15:06 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:15:09 <phila> antoine: Then the overview os mostly the diagram
Antoine Isaac: Then the overview os mostly the diagram ←
13:15:10 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio ←
13:15:10 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it ←
13:15:16 <Zakim> -SumitPurohit
Zakim IRC Bot: -SumitPurohit ←
13:15:26 <Zakim> +SumitPurohit
Zakim IRC Bot: +SumitPurohit ←
13:15:49 <phila> antoine: The one on feedback is now an annotation (sub class of oa:Annotation)
Antoine Isaac: The one on feedback is now an annotation (sub class of oa:Annotation) ←
13:15:54 <Zakim> + +39.349.096.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +39.349.096.aadd ←
13:16:01 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is noicy?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is noicy? ←
13:16:01 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, deirdrelee.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, deirdrelee. ←
13:16:03 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is noisy?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is noisy? ←
13:16:07 <phila> antoine: So we hope this gives a clear overview of where we want to go
Antoine Isaac: So we hope this gives a clear overview of where we want to go ←
13:16:14 <Zakim> deirdrelee, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: BernadetteLoscio (24%)
Zakim IRC Bot: deirdrelee, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: BernadetteLoscio (24%) ←
13:16:18 <riccardoAlbertoni> zakim, +39.349.096.aadd is me
Riccardo Albertoni: zakim, +39.349.096.aadd is me ←
13:16:18 <Zakim> +riccardoAlbertoni; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +riccardoAlbertoni; got it ←
13:16:33 <phila> antoine: There isn't yet a detailed list of all terms. One for lack of time but also it's less important than the overview and examples we feedl.
Antoine Isaac: There isn't yet a detailed list of all terms. One for lack of time but also it's less important than the overview and examples we feedl. ←
13:16:47 <phila> antoine: Overview also includes the issues that we want to get feedback on wrt modelling decisions.
Antoine Isaac: Overview also includes the issues that we want to get feedback on wrt modelling decisions. ←
13:17:00 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio ←
13:17:00 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted ←
13:17:08 <phila> ... Whether it's good to have quality annotation as sub class of oa:aAnnottaion, whether a certificate is a standard etc.
... Whether it's good to have quality annotation as sub class of oa:aAnnottaion, whether a certificate is a standard etc. ←
13:17:19 <phila> antoine: But we need more feedback from outside the group.
Antoine Isaac: But we need more feedback from outside the group. ←
13:17:32 <phila> antoine: Section 5 has several examples. We haven't done all the examples we want to include.
Antoine Isaac: Section 5 has several examples. We haven't done all the examples we want to include. ←
13:17:41 <phila> ... But we think we already have enough
... But we think we already have enough ←
13:17:47 <Zakim> -antoine
Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine ←
13:18:10 <laufer> q+
Carlos Laufer: q+ ←
13:18:27 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:18:28 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me
Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me ←
13:18:28 <Zakim> +antoine; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it ←
13:18:41 <laufer> zakim, unmute me
Carlos Laufer: zakim, unmute me ←
13:18:41 <Zakim> laufer was not muted, laufer
Zakim IRC Bot: laufer was not muted, laufer ←
13:18:48 <deirdrelee> ack laufer
Deirdre Lee: ack laufer ←
13:18:57 <phila> phila: I've taken a quick look. I like the way it sets out the problem and direction.
Phil Archer: I've taken a quick look. I like the way it sets out the problem and direction. ←
13:19:29 <phila> laufer: I have a doubt about the notation in the diagram. Is this a standard way to show it/ You have two dotted rectangles that seem to be a container for information. Is this a standard way to show this?
Carlos Laufer: I have a doubt about the notation in the diagram. Is this a standard way to show it/ You have two dotted rectangles that seem to be a container for information. Is this a standard way to show this? ←
13:19:54 <phila> antoine: That's meant to represent the containment of statement within gnamed graphs. I'm not aware of a standard way to express this.
Antoine Isaac: That's meant to represent the containment of statement within gnamed graphs. I'm not aware of a standard way to express this. ←
13:20:06 <Zakim> -antoine
Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine ←
13:20:10 <phila> laufer: We don't see the direct relation between these things, but I understand its some sort of container.
Carlos Laufer: We don't see the direct relation between these things, but I understand its some sort of container. ←
13:20:27 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:20:34 <laufer> zakim, mute me
Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me ←
13:20:34 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted ←
13:20:40 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me
Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me ←
13:20:40 <Zakim> +antoine; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it ←
13:20:40 <laufer> ok
Carlos Laufer: ok ←
13:21:02 <phila> antoine: We can add a small note if you think that's needed?
Antoine Isaac: We can add a small note if you think that's needed? ←
13:21:13 <phila> ... As long as it's a 2 line note we can do it quickly
... As long as it's a 2 line note we can do it quickly ←
13:21:23 <phila> ... Just the graph containmnet thing.
... Just the graph containmnet thing. ←
13:21:48 <laufer> zakim, unmute me
Carlos Laufer: zakim, unmute me ←
13:21:48 <Zakim> laufer was not muted, laufer
Zakim IRC Bot: laufer was not muted, laufer ←
13:22:22 <phila> laufer: I think that we can understand this. And the examples are clear. It's only a little thing.
Carlos Laufer: I think that we can understand this. And the examples are clear. It's only a little thing. ←
13:22:30 <BernadetteLoscio> q+
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+ ←
13:22:34 <laufer> zakim, mute me
Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me ←
13:22:34 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted ←
13:22:46 <phila> deirdrelee: So, Antoine, anything else for us to go through?
Deirdre Lee: So, Antoine, anything else for us to go through? ←
13:22:46 <phila> ack BernadetteLoscio
ack BernadetteLoscio ←
13:22:46 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio ←
13:22:47 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio was not muted, BernadetteLoscio
Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio was not muted, BernadetteLoscio ←
13:23:20 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: Thyere is a class of user feedback. have we discussed this before? There is a similar class in DUV
Bernadette Farias Loscio: There is a class of user feedback. have we discussed this before? There is a similar class in DUV ←
13:23:28 <phila> ... Will they be the same?
... Will they be the same? ←
13:23:40 <phila> antoine: Easy answer: The doc says that there's a big fat Issue-3 ??
Antoine Isaac: Easy answer: The doc says that there's a big fat ISSUE-3 ?? ←
13:23:43 <PeterWinstanley> For SLA are we linking to standard definitions in ITIL, COBIT etc? http://www.mitsm.de/service-level-agreement-management-en
Peter Winstanley: For SLA are we linking to standard definitions in ITIL, COBIT etc? http://www.mitsm.de/service-level-agreement-management-en ←
13:23:45 <riccardoAlbertoni> What is the relation between duv:Feedback and dqv:Feedback? (Issue-165).
Riccardo Albertoni: What is the relation between duv:Feedback and dqv:Feedback? (ISSUE-165). ←
13:23:56 <phila> issue-165?
13:23:56 <trackbot> issue-165 -- what relation between duv:Feedback and dqv:Feedback? -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-165 -- what relation between duv:Feedback and dqv:Feedback? -- open ←
13:23:56 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/165
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/165 ←
13:23:57 <newton> s/Thyere/There
13:24:13 <phila> antoine: And publishing the doc gives us a chance to get feedback on this.
Antoine Isaac: And publishing the doc gives us a chance to get feedback on this. ←
13:24:23 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: I'll look at it next week and feedback.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I'll look at it next week and feedback. ←
13:24:32 <phila> deirdrelee: So it seems that overall... (lost)...
Deirdre Lee: So it seems that overall... (lost)... ←
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13:25:08 <phila> deirdrelee: The doc is mature enough for a FPWD. The ideas are there, the foundations, issues are specified. So Antoine, let's go ahead and vote?
Deirdre Lee: The doc is mature enough for a FPWD. The ideas are there, the foundations, issues are specified. So Antoine, let's go ahead and vote? ←
13:25:56 <phila> PROPOSED: That the current editor's draft of the Data Quality Vocabulary at http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html be published as a First Public Working Draft
PROPOSED: That the current editor's draft of the Data Quality Vocabulary at http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html be published as a First Public Working Draft ←
13:26:04 <ericstephan> +1
Eric Stephan: +1 ←
13:26:05 <phila> +1
+1 ←
13:26:06 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 ←
13:26:06 <laufer> +1
Carlos Laufer: +1 ←
13:26:08 <deirdrelee> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
13:26:13 <hadleybeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
13:26:14 <SumitPurohit> +1
Sumit Purohit: +1 ←
13:26:18 <BernadetteLoscio> +1
Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1 ←
13:26:33 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
13:26:37 <Eric_Kauz> +1
13:26:37 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
Riccardo Albertoni: +1 ←
13:26:39 <antoine> +1
Antoine Isaac: +1 ←
13:26:46 <PeterWinstanley> +!
Peter Winstanley: +! ←
13:26:46 <phila> RESOLVED: That the current editor's draft of the Data Quality Vocabulary at http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html be published as a First Public Working Draft
RESOLVED: That the current editor's draft of the Data Quality Vocabulary at http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html be published as a First Public Working Draft ←
13:26:50 <PeterWinstanley> +1
Peter Winstanley: +1 ←
13:27:16 <phila> PROPOSED: That the WG formally thanks the editors, Antoine and Riccardo for their work
PROPOSED: That the WG formally thanks the editors, Antoine and Riccardo for their work ←
13:27:25 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 ←
13:27:25 <deirdrelee> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
13:27:27 <phila> +1
+1 ←
13:27:29 <PeterWinstanley> +1
Peter Winstanley: +1 ←
13:27:29 <ericstephan> +1
Eric Stephan: +1 ←
13:27:30 <laufer> +congrats
Carlos Laufer: +congrats ←
13:27:34 <SumitPurohit> +1
Sumit Purohit: +1 ←
13:27:34 <BernadetteLoscio> +1
Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1 ←
13:27:37 <laufer> +1
Carlos Laufer: +1 ←
13:27:38 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
13:27:40 <antoine> there's christophe as well!
Antoine Isaac: there's christophe as well! ←
13:28:00 <phila> RESOLVED: That the WG formally thanks the editors, Antoine, Riccardo and Christophe for their work
RESOLVED: That the WG formally thanks the editors, Antoine, Riccardo and Christophe for their work ←
13:28:00 <ericstephan> https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html
Eric Stephan: https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html ←
13:28:03 <antoine> thanks everyone!
Antoine Isaac: thanks everyone! ←
13:28:09 <phila> Topic: dataset Usage Vocabulary
13:28:36 <phila> ericstephan: We seem to have lost the title... but that wasn't the change I wanted to cover
Eric Stephan: We seem to have lost the title... but that wasn't the change I wanted to cover ←
13:28:45 <ericstephan> https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html#examples
Eric Stephan: https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html#examples ←
13:29:17 <phila> ericstephan: If you go to the examples area, we've tried to elabroate ... rather than examples of each class, we've given examples of usage, feedback and citation.
Eric Stephan: If you go to the examples area, we've tried to elabroate ... rather than examples of each class, we've given examples of usage, feedback and citation. ←
13:29:29 <ericstephan> https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html#vocabulary-specification
Eric Stephan: https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html#vocabulary-specification ←
13:29:39 <phila> ericstephan: We've also improved the model based on some feedback from Annette this past week and from Frederic Hirsch on the OA model
Eric Stephan: We've also improved the model based on some feedback from Annette this past week and from Frederic Hirsch on the OA model ←
13:29:56 <phila> ... You might notice that we're relying on PROV with some sub pros and classes
... You might notice that we're relying on PROV with some sub pros and classes ←
13:30:19 <phila> ... the comments last week lead us to move that Experience class, replaced with PROV Activity
... the comments last week lead us to move that Experience class, replaced with PROV Activity ←
13:30:28 <phila> ... I know there are some problems this morning that we need to look at.
... I know there are some problems this morning that we need to look at. ←
13:30:43 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:30:53 <phila> ericstephan: The 3rd part was explaining the relationship with other vocabs. Ours is more of a grouping, so we're expecting a lot of comments on our choices of other vocabs
Eric Stephan: The 3rd part was explaining the relationship with other vocabs. Ours is more of a grouping, so we're expecting a lot of comments on our choices of other vocabs ←
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13:31:06 <deirdrelee> q+
Deirdre Lee: q+ ←
13:31:08 <phila> ericstephan: Which ones might be better suited etc. We'll welcome that in the citations community.
Eric Stephan: Which ones might be better suited etc. We'll welcome that in the citations community. ←
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13:31:21 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me
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13:31:21 <Zakim> +antoine; got it
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13:31:34 <phila> SumitPurohit: Experience and Citation part, we've improved it a couple of times and there's still more to do we think.
Sumit Purohit: Experience and Citation part, we've improved it a couple of times and there's still more to do we think. ←
13:31:51 <phila> SumitPurohit: There's a lack of standards there and people differ in what term they use
Sumit Purohit: There's a lack of standards there and people differ in what term they use ←
13:32:00 <phila> ... So everyionbe's comment will be welcome there
... So everyone's comment will be welcome there ←
13:32:28 <phila> ack deirdrelee
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13:32:42 <laufer> s/everyionbe/everyone/
13:32:48 <phila> deirdrelee: So... in terms of FPWD, what exactly are you looking for in terms of specific feedback.
Deirdre Lee: So... in terms of FPWD, what exactly are you looking for in terms of specific feedback. ←
13:33:07 <phila> deirdrelee: The DQV has listed the issues - should we do the same here?
Deirdre Lee: The DQV has listed the issues - should we do the same here? ←
13:33:31 <SumitPurohit> Because of we have accidentally removed header, this page claim itself as "W3C Recommendation" which is is not as of now
Sumit Purohit: Because of we have accidentally removed header, this page claim itself as "W3C Recommendation" which is is not as of now ←
13:33:45 <phila> ericstephan: That's definitely something that's of value to a reviewer. I feel we've been addressing issues since the April f2f and there have been some questions that have come up
Eric Stephan: That's definitely something that's of value to a reviewer. I feel we've been addressing issues since the April f2f and there have been some questions that have come up ←
13:33:55 <phila> ... I don't know if those kind of questions should be in the doc.
... I don't know if those kind of questions should be in the doc. ←
13:34:02 <phila> ... I'm open to ideas
... I'm open to ideas ←
13:34:06 <phila> q+
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13:34:13 <phila> ack me
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13:34:29 <BernadetteLoscio> q+
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13:34:41 <phila> http://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp/#intro
http://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp/#intro ←
13:35:51 <SumitPurohit> +1
Sumit Purohit: +1 ←
13:35:53 <phila> phila: Points to the eg of the BP doc's FPWD having a specific intro paragraph
Phil Archer: Points to the eg of the BP doc's FPWD having a specific intro paragraph ←
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13:36:10 <ericstephan> +1 phila
Eric Stephan: +1 phila ←
13:36:20 <Zakim> -antoine
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13:36:35 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: I agree, we should include some issues. I think our biggest concerns are around the citations and application so we can include some issues around those.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I agree, we should include some issues. I think our biggest concerns are around the citations and application so we can include some issues around those. ←
13:36:40 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:36:41 <phila> ... So I think we can include some specific issues
... So I think we can include some specific issues ←
13:36:47 <phila> ... we can do this together.
... we can do this together. ←
13:36:57 <phila> deirdrelee: So in that context, the vocab seems to be quite mature
Deirdre Lee: So in that context, the vocab seems to be quite mature ←
13:37:05 <phila> ... wanna vote?
... wanna vote? ←
13:37:29 <phila> deirdrelee: If BernadetteLoscio, SumitPurohit and ericstephan think so, we could vote.
Deirdre Lee: If BernadetteLoscio, SumitPurohit and ericstephan think so, we could vote. ←
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13:37:45 <phila> ericstephan: So, like Antoine, can we have a few hours after the meeting?
Eric Stephan: So, like Antoine, can we have a few hours after the meeting? ←
13:37:49 <laufer> q+
Carlos Laufer: q+ ←
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13:37:57 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me
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13:37:57 <Zakim> +antoine; got it
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13:38:00 <phila> deirdrelee: Yep, because we're going to vote on timing shortly
Deirdre Lee: Yep, because we're going to vote on timing shortly ←
13:38:27 <phila> laufer: I want to suggest that in the intro to the doc, we have some text about the types of uses that its' designed to help.
Carlos Laufer: I want to suggest that in the intro to the doc, we have some text about the types of uses that its' designed to help. ←
13:38:39 <phila> ... We can see that there is a kind of developer or an end user
... We can see that there is a kind of developer or an end user ←
13:38:53 <phila> ... It's not too clear whether the user is an actual end user or a developer.
... It's not too clear whether the user is an actual end user or a developer. ←
13:39:02 <deirdrelee> ack laufer
Deirdre Lee: ack laufer ←
13:39:06 <phila> ... Maybe an informal example in the intro?
... Maybe an informal example in the intro? ←
13:39:19 <phila> zakim, who is noisy?
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13:39:27 <ericstephan> q+
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13:39:32 <Zakim> phila, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (86%), ericstephan (15%), BernadetteLoscio (81%)
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13:40:05 <phila> ericstephan: That's a good example of an issue we should put in the doc, yes, thanks.
Eric Stephan: That's a good example of an issue we should put in the doc, yes, thanks. ←
13:40:09 <laufer> ok
Carlos Laufer: ok ←
13:40:10 <deirdrelee> ack ericstephan
Deirdre Lee: ack ericstephan ←
13:40:18 <deirdrelee> PROPOSED: That the current editor's draft of the Data Usage Vocabulary at https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html be published as a First Public Working Draft
PROPOSED: That the current editor's draft of the Data Usage Vocabulary at https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html be published as a First Public Working Draft ←
13:40:57 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
13:40:59 <ericstephan> wait for it, wait for it...
Eric Stephan: wait for it, wait for it... ←
13:40:59 <phila> PROPOSED: That the current editor's draft of the Data Usage Vocabulary at https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html be published as a First Public Working Draft, but ask the editors to add in text/links concerning specific issues
PROPOSED: That the current editor's draft of the Data Usage Vocabulary at https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html be published as a First Public Working Draft, but ask the editors to add in text/links concerning specific issues ←
13:41:27 <ericstephan> Sounds great Phil about your points
Eric Stephan: Sounds great Phil about your points ←
13:41:45 <SumitPurohit> +1
Sumit Purohit: +1 ←
13:41:45 <phila> +1
+1 ←
13:41:48 <antoine> +1
Antoine Isaac: +1 ←
13:41:49 <BernadetteLoscio> +1
Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1 ←
13:41:49 <ericstephan> +1
Eric Stephan: +1 ←
13:41:49 <laufer> +1
Carlos Laufer: +1 ←
13:41:49 <deirdrelee> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
13:41:51 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 ←
13:41:51 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
Riccardo Albertoni: +1 ←
13:41:51 <Eric_Kauz> +1
13:41:51 <hadleybeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
13:41:56 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
13:42:02 <phila> RESOLVED: That the current editor's draft of the Data Usage Vocabulary at https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html be published as a First Public Working Draft, but ask the editors to add in text/links concerning specific issues
RESOLVED: That the current editor's draft of the Data Usage Vocabulary at https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html be published as a First Public Working Draft, but ask the editors to add in text/links concerning specific issues ←
13:42:20 <laufer> Phil, the formal congrats proposal
Carlos Laufer: Phil, the formal congrats proposal ←
13:42:21 <phila> PROPOSED: That the WG thanks the editors of the dataset Usage Vocabulary for their work in taking the doc to FPWD
PROPOSED: That the WG thanks the editors of the dataset Usage Vocabulary for their work in taking the doc to FPWD ←
13:42:25 <phila> +1
+1 ←
13:42:27 <laufer> yes
Carlos Laufer: yes ←
13:42:29 <laufer> +1
Carlos Laufer: +1 ←
13:42:30 <deirdrelee> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
13:42:31 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
13:42:32 <ericstephan> The dogs in my house abstained from vote
Eric Stephan: The dogs in my house abstained from vote ←
13:42:39 <antoine> +1
Antoine Isaac: +1 ←
13:42:39 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
Riccardo Albertoni: +1 ←
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13:42:42 <phila> Topic: BP Doc
13:42:45 <SumitPurohit> +1
Sumit Purohit: +1 ←
13:42:55 <phila> deirdrelee: Going for a hat trick... Over to you Berna
Deirdre Lee: Going for a hat trick... Over to you Berna ←
13:43:00 <PeterWinstanley> Daft Laddie question: have/are DQV and DUV linked in to any ISO 15926 (and POSC Caesar) artefacts/standards?
Peter Winstanley: Daft Laddie question: have/are DQV and DUV linked in to any ISO 15926 (and POSC Caesar) artefacts/standards? ←
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13:43:06 <ericstephan> Yes
Eric Stephan: Yes ←
13:43:31 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: WE have made some changes on the doc. I sent a message a couple of weeks ago... and got no answer.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: We have made some changes on the doc. I sent a message a couple of weeks ago... and got no answer. ←
13:43:38 <phila> ... People are focussed on the vocabs right now.
... People are focussed on the vocabs right now. ←
13:43:41 <deirdrelee> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html
Deirdre Lee: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html ←
13:43:45 <phila> s/WE/We/
13:44:06 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: We included a new section called Context where we tried to explain our context, working with datasets and distributions.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: We included a new section called Context where we tried to explain our context, working with datasets and distributions. ←
13:44:09 <ericstephan> Peter I haven't looked at this, thank you for the pointer and would appreciate any of your thoughts on this
Eric Stephan: Peter I haven't looked at this, thank you for the pointer and would appreciate any of your thoughts on this ←
13:44:34 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: We changed the challenges section, included a diagram to illustrate the reletaionship |-| the BPs and the challenges, i.e. how to use the BPs
Bernadette Farias Loscio: We changed the challenges section, included a diagram to illustrate the reletaionship |-| the BPs and the challenges, i.e. how to use the BPs ←
13:44:48 <phila> .., I like the diagram as we have links from the diagram to the BPs
... I like the diagram as we have links from the diagram to the BPs ←
13:44:59 <phila> ... And the BP about metadata were changed
... And the BP about metadata were changed ←
13:45:05 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:45:12 <phila> s/..,/.../
13:45:27 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: We included some new BPs (like on structural metadata)
Bernadette Farias Loscio: We included some new BPs (like on structural metadata) ←
13:45:54 <phila> ... We have separate ones about quality, licensing, versioning etc.
... We have separate ones about quality, licensing, versioning etc. ←
13:46:14 <phila> ... and there's the new BPs on data Identification from Phil, I propose to include those
... and there's the new BPs on data Identification from Phil, I propose to include those ←
13:46:42 <phila> ... the ones on feedback wasn't changed
... the ones on feedback wasn't changed ←
13:46:50 <phila> ... Christophe added back the ones on data preservation
... Christophe added back the ones on data preservation ←
13:47:22 <phila> ... I gave some examples... so, for example BP 2, provide descriptive metata, there is a link to an example. We plan to have examples for each BP.
... I gave some examples... so, for example BP 2, provide descriptive metata, there is a link to an example. We plan to have examples for each BP. ←
13:47:38 <phila> ... I also included a new section of examples. That's one we'll use throughout.
... I also included a new section of examples. That's one we'll use throughout. ←
13:47:41 <deirdrelee> q+
Deirdre Lee: q+ ←
13:47:49 <phila> ... We still have a lot to do but these are the improvements.
... We still have a lot to do but these are the improvements. ←
13:48:00 <phila> ack deirdrelee
ack deirdrelee ←
13:48:11 <ericstephan> q+
Eric Stephan: q+ ←
13:48:52 <phila> deirdrelee: The context section that you've added. The diagram deals with dataset versioning, distributions etc. The diagram makes sense but I'm not sure that it adds to the doc. If anything it might confuuse thing.
Deirdre Lee: The context section that you've added. The diagram deals with dataset versioning, distributions etc. The diagram makes sense but I'm not sure that it adds to the doc. If anything it might confuuse thing. ←
13:49:02 <phila> ... It's a specific case and it's quite complex, even with DCAT.
... It's a specific case and it's quite complex, even with DCAT. ←
13:49:10 <phila> ... You're looking at differnet versions over a time series.
... You're looking at differnet versions over a time series. ←
13:49:21 <phila> ... So you have a relationship between a dataset and a super dataset, then versions
... So you have a relationship between a dataset and a super dataset, then versions ←
13:49:40 <phila> ... and then in the pink section, you have distributions but they're named, in their titles, as dataset.
... and then in the pink section, you have distributions but they're named, in their titles, as dataset. ←
13:50:09 <phila> ... There's a lot in theis diagram. We may not want to go that far and if we do, then we need to be very specific in what we mean. Maybe here's how you model a time series
... There's a lot in theis diagram. We may not want to go that far and if we do, then we need to be very specific in what we mean. Maybe here's how you model a time series ←
13:50:35 <BernadetteLoscio> q+
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+ ←
13:50:41 <phila> deirdrelee: And the other thing. The external comments that we have talked about are still open (14 of them). These haven't been closed/handled completely.
Deirdre Lee: And the other thing. The external comments that we have talked about are still open (14 of them). These haven't been closed/handled completely. ←
13:50:51 <deirdrelee> ack ericstephan
Deirdre Lee: ack ericstephan ←
13:50:53 <phila> ... Sorry to be negative but those are my concerns.
... Sorry to be negative but those are my concerns. ←
13:51:36 <phila> ericstephan: A general question... around dog food eating... this thing around the data identifiers, vocab re-use... it seems like our language in the vocabs needs to match what's in the BP doc.
Eric Stephan: A general question... around dog food eating... this thing around the data identifiers, vocab re-use... it seems like our language in the vocabs needs to match what's in the BP doc. ←
13:51:59 <deirdrelee> ack BernadetteLoscio
Deirdre Lee: ack BernadetteLoscio ←
13:52:14 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: To comment about the comments received. Some we need to close. But I'll be honest, I didn't have time to go into the comment tracker.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: To comment about the comments received. Some we need to close. But I'll be honest, I didn't have time to go into the comment tracker. ←
13:52:34 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: Some were included in the new doc. But as I understand it, the Wg has to vote on each one before it's closed?
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Some were included in the new doc. But as I understand it, the Wg has to vote on each one before it's closed? ←
13:52:48 <phila> ... But some of the commnets were considered in this new section.
... But some of the commnets were considered in this new section. ←
13:53:14 <phila> ... In the context section, we need to say that a dataset can have multiple versions and that distributions concern specifici versions of datasets.
... In the context section, we need to say that a dataset can have multiple versions and that distributions concern specifici versions of datasets. ←
13:53:16 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:53:58 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: I got some work from... a doc that Phil shared with us some time ago about metadata... I;ll search for the link. But this may not be the best way to show this.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I got some work from... a doc that Phil shared with us some time ago about metadata... I;ll search for the link. But this may not be the best way to show this. ←
13:54:21 <phila> ... We talk about datasets, and versions and distibutions. Maybe the diagram is not a good one but we should talk about this.
... We talk about datasets, and versions and distibutions. Maybe the diagram is not a good one but we should talk about this. ←
13:54:26 <phila> deirdrelee: Thanks BernadetteLoscio
Deirdre Lee: Thanks BernadetteLoscio ←
13:54:37 <phila> deirdrelee: So on that note, do we go ahead for a new FPWD?
Deirdre Lee: So on that note, do we go ahead for a new FP? ←
13:54:46 <phila> s/WD/
13:54:55 <phila> Scribe means new WD, not FPWD
Scribe means new WD, not FPWD ←
13:55:56 <phila> phila: have you addressed all the comments received, even if not recorded in the tracker
Phil Archer: have you addressed all the comments received, even if not recorded in the tracker ←
13:56:06 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: I think so, I can check one by one.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I think so, I can check one by one. ←
13:56:51 <phila> deirdrelee: And have people been e-mailled about their comments being addressed?
Deirdre Lee: And have people been e-mailled about their comments being addressed? ←
13:57:18 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: No, I think we sent a message to one of them not everyone.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: No, I think we sent a message to one of them not everyone. ←
13:57:28 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: So we can update the tracker and write to the authors.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: So we can update the tracker and write to the authors. ←
13:57:58 <phila> deirdrelee: So I think I'd vote against publishing the next BP WD for a week
Deirdre Lee: So I think I'd vote against publishing the next BP WD for a week ←
13:58:02 <hadleybeeman> +1 to postponing the vote til next week
Hadley Beeman: +1 to postponing the vote til next week ←
13:58:10 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: Ok, then we can update the tracker and write to the authors.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Ok, then we can update the tracker and write to the authors. ←
13:58:22 <ericstephan> sounds like a plan
Eric Stephan: sounds like a plan ←
13:58:26 <phila> phila: +1 to postpoming by a week
Phil Archer: +1 to postpoming by a week ←
13:58:49 <riccardoAlbertoni> sorry too noise
Riccardo Albertoni: sorry too noise ←
13:58:50 <ericstephan> Sounds great
Eric Stephan: Sounds great ←
13:58:54 <phila> deirdrelee: The vote still stands on DUV and DQV - there's a week to address the caveats in the resolutions
Deirdre Lee: The vote still stands on DUV and DQV - there's a week to address the caveats in the resolutions ←
13:59:04 <phila> ... And then we can vote on all three this time next week.
... And then we can vote on all three this time next week. ←
13:59:12 <phila> Topic: Last week's agenda
13:59:16 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio
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13:59:36 <phila> PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-05-29
PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-05-29 ←
13:59:43 <deirdrelee> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
13:59:49 <SumitPurohit> +1
Sumit Purohit: +1 ←
13:59:51 <antoine> +1
Antoine Isaac: +1 ←
13:59:52 <laufer> +1
Carlos Laufer: +1 ←
13:59:54 <ericstephan> +1
Eric Stephan: +1 ←
13:59:55 <phila> Phila: (I was absent)
Phil Archer: (I was absent) ←
14:00:03 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
14:00:08 <phila> RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-05-29
RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-05-29 ←
14:00:11 <Eric_Kauz> +1
14:00:21 <hadleybeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
14:00:27 <laufer> mayve we can postpone the publishing of the vocabularies to publish them together with the bp
Carlos Laufer: mayve we can postpone the publishing of the vocabularies to publish them together with the bp ←
14:00:28 <ericstephan> have a great weekend!
Eric Stephan: have a great weekend! ←
14:00:32 <phila> deirdrelee: Thanks everyone for a productive meeting.
Deirdre Lee: Thanks everyone for a productive meeting. ←
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14:00:39 <laufer> Congrats to all editors and thank you for the hard work!
Carlos Laufer: Congrats to all editors and thank you for the hard work! ←
14:00:46 <ericstephan> bye bye
Eric Stephan: bye bye ←
14:00:46 <phila> ... good to see everything loving forward.
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