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14:22:53 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be dpub
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14:22:53 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
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14:22:54 <trackbot> Meeting: Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference
14:22:55 <trackbot> Date: 24 August 2015
14:23:56 <ivan> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2015Aug/0077.html
14:23:59 <ivan> chair: Markus
14:58:36 <tzviya> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2015Aug/0121.html
14:59:12 <mgylling> Present+ Markus_Gylling
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14:59:31 <tzviya> Present+ Tzviya_Siegman
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14:59:42 <ivan> Present+ Ivan_Herman
Ivan Herman: Present+ Ivan_Herman ←
15:00:27 <Julie_Morris> present + Julie_Morris
Julie Morris: present + Julie_Morris ←
15:00:37 <brady_duga> present+ duga
Brady Duga: present+ duga ←
15:01:05 <lrosenth> present+ Leonard
Leonard Rosenthol: present+ Leonard ←
15:01:20 <Karen> present+ Karen
Karen Myers: present+ Karen ←
15:01:37 <dkaplan3> present+ Deborah_Kaplan
Deborah Kaplan: present+ Deborah_Kaplan ←
15:01:55 <ivan> present+ Nick
Ivan Herman: present+ Nick ←
15:02:03 <pkra> present+ Peter Krautzberger
Peter Krautzberger: present+ Peter Krautzberger ←
15:02:04 <HeatherF> present +Heather_Flanagan
Heather Flanagan: present +Heather_Flanagan ←
15:02:08 <TimCole> Present+ TimCole
Timothy Cole: Present+ TimCole ←
15:02:09 <Bill_Kasdorf> present+ Bill_Kasdorf
Bill Kasdorf: present+ Bill_Kasdorf ←
15:02:32 <ivan> scribenick: TimCole
(Scribe set to Timothy Cole)
15:02:45 <clapierre> present+ Charles LaPierre
Charles LaPierre: present+ Charles LaPierre ←
15:02:48 <ivan> Chair: Tzviya
15:03:14 <tzviya> http://www.w3.org/2015/08/17-dpub-minutes.html
Tzviya Siegman: http://www.w3.org/2015/08/17-dpub-minutes.html ←
15:03:23 <TimCole> Topic: Minutes
15:03:26 <HeatherF> ship 'em!
Heather Flanagan: ship 'em! ←
15:03:39 <TimCole> Minutes Approved.
Minutes Approved. ←
15:03:50 <ivan> Topic: update of A11y task force
15:03:51 <TimCole> Topic: Update on Accessibility
15:03:52 <bjdmeest> Present+ Ben_De_Meester
Ben De Meester: Present+ Ben_De_Meester ←
15:04:08 <pbelfanti> present + Paul Belfanti
Paul Belfanti: present + Paul Belfanti ←
15:04:13 <clapierre> http://w3c.github.io/dpub-accessibility/
Charles LaPierre: http://w3c.github.io/dpub-accessibility/ ←
15:04:32 <TimCole> clapierre: progress on note ongoing, but a little slow
Charles LaPierre: progress on note ongoing, but a little slow ←
15:04:42 <TimCole> ... a number of topics to fill in
... a number of topics to fill in ←
15:04:59 <TimCole> ... image descriptions task is taking some time (working with P&F / ARIA)
... image descriptions task is taking some time (working with P&F / ARIA) ←
15:05:17 <TimCole> ... need to get this into a spec that can be used
... need to get this into a spec that can be used ←
15:05:27 <TimCole> ... looking at alternatives that may be better fit
... looking at alternatives that may be better fit ←
15:05:38 <TimCole> ... a lot of discussion on MathML lately
... a lot of discussion on MathML lately ←
15:05:53 <TimCole> ... this also has taken some focus away from producing the Note
... this also has taken some focus away from producing the Note ←
15:06:07 <TimCole> ... will be looking for reviews from this group.
... will be looking for reviews from this group. ←
15:06:14 <lrosenth> q+
Leonard Rosenthol: q+ ←
15:06:48 <TimCole> deborah: we sometimes think about digital publishing as a special case of Web publishing, but really DPub has some different needs when it comes to Accessibility
Deborah Kaplan: we sometimes think about digital publishing as a special case of Web publishing, but really DPub has some different needs when it comes to Accessibility ←
15:06:52 <tzviya> ack lr
Tzviya Siegman: ack lr ←
15:07:01 <TimCole> ... really appreciate input from this group.
... really appreciate input from this group. ←
15:07:36 <TimCole> lrosenth: good information in the draft note, but some of these issues have been addressed in an ISO std. (which one?)
Leonard Rosenthol: good information in the draft note, but some of these issues have been addressed in an ISO std. (which one?) ←
15:08:05 <TimCole> ... conceptually some of these items in PDF UA may be helpful
... conceptually some of these items in PDF UA may be helpful ←
15:08:27 <TimCole> deborah: we want to encourage 2 way communications with other groups
Deborah Kaplan: we want to encourage 2 way communications with other groups ←
15:08:42 <lrosenth> will do!
Leonard Rosenthol: will do! ←
15:08:46 <TimCole> clapierre: please add edits or issues to the current draft on github
Charles LaPierre: please add edits or issues to the current draft on github ←
15:09:23 <tzviya> http://www.w3.org/2015/08/extended-description-analysis
Tzviya Siegman: http://www.w3.org/2015/08/extended-description-analysis ←
15:09:46 <clapierre> wil do
Charles LaPierre: wil do ←
15:09:46 <TimCole> tzviya: adding an additional link to P&F grid about DPub requirements; they've asked for a punch list of comments from DPub
Tzviya Siegman: adding an additional link to P&F grid about DPub requirements; they've asked for a punch list of comments from DPub ←
15:10:07 <TimCole> ... our requirements are already well reflected in this draft from P&F
... our requirements are already well reflected in this draft from P&F ←
15:10:22 <HeatherF> Even positive comments are worthwhile
Heather Flanagan: Even positive comments are worthwhile ←
15:10:31 <TimCole> ... conversations about some our requests, e.g., details
... conversations about some our requests, e.g., details ←
15:12:14 <TimCole> deborah: (in response to a question) the sub-group is on top of getting the note done, though help is always welcome.
Deborah Kaplan: (in response to a question) the sub-group is on top of getting the note done, though help is always welcome. ←
15:12:43 <TimCole> Topic: document about publishing requirements for packaging
15:12:44 <tzviya> https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Requirements_for_Web_Publication_and_Packaging
Tzviya Siegman: https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Requirements_for_Web_Publication_and_Packaging ←
15:13:10 <lrosenth> +1 to move it forward
Leonard Rosenthol: +1 to move it forward ←
15:13:15 <tzviya> +1
Tzviya Siegman: +1 ←
15:13:18 <TimCole> tzviya: there has been a lot of talking about the document, but we seem to have approached consensus as of end of last week
Tzviya Siegman: there has been a lot of talking about the document, but we seem to have approached consensus as of end of last week ←
15:13:20 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
15:13:20 <pkra> +1
Peter Krautzberger: +1 ←
15:13:20 <mgylling> +1
Markus Gylling: +1 ←
15:13:23 <HeatherF> +1
Heather Flanagan: +1 ←
15:13:26 <NickRuffilo> +1
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Scribe problem: the name 'NickRuffilo' does not match any of the 99 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: ASOK BANDYOPADHYAY Akshat Joshi Alan Tam Alan Stearns Anton Leskovets Avneesh Singh Ayla Stein Ben Holden-Crowther Ben De Meester Bert Bos Bill Kasdorf Brady Duga Bryan Croft Casey Dougherty Charles LaPierre Chris Lilley Daniel Schwabe Dave Cramer David Stroup David Singer Dean Jackson Deborah Kaplan Dmitry Shkolnik Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Edward O'Connor Erik Mannens Frank Liu George Kerscher George Walkley Graham Bell Hajar Ghaem Sigarchian Heather Flanagan Heather Reid Ivan Herman Jeff Xu Jiphun Satapathy Jirka Kosek Johannes Wilm John Shaw Julie Morris Jun Fujisawa Karen Myers Kasar Masood Kenny Zhang Koji Ishii Laura Fowler Leonard Rosenthol Liam Quin Livio Mondini Liza Daly Luc Audrain Madi Solomon Mahesh Kulkarni Manuel Rego Casasnovas Markku Hakkinen Markus Gylling Matt Garrish Michael Miller Michael Cooper Miel Vander Sande Mohamed ZERGAOUI Naitik Tyagi Nicholas Ruffilo Nishit Jain Paolo Ciccarese Patrick Keating Paul Belfanti Peter Linss Peter Krautzberger Phil Madans Pierre Danet Prashant Prashant Rajesh Ranjan Richard Schwerdtfeger Richard Ishida Robert Sanderson Robin Berjon Satoshi Kojima Shane McCarron Shinyu Murakami Somnath Chandra Susann Keohane Suzanne Taylor Swaran Lata Thierry Michel Tim Clark Timothy Cole Tom De Nies Toru Kawakubo Tyng-Ruey Chuang Tzviya Siegman Vincent Gros Vladimir Levantovsky William McCoy William Mischo Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown NickRuffilo: +1 ←
15:13:27 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:13:29 <clapierre> +1
Charles LaPierre: +1 ←
15:13:31 <TimCole> ... are we ready to push this forward (+1_
... are we ready to push this forward (+1_ ←
15:13:32 <tzviya> ack ivan
Tzviya Siegman: ack ivan ←
15:13:42 <bjdmeest> +1
Ben De Meester: +1 ←
15:13:47 <Karen> +1
Karen Myers: +1 ←
15:13:47 <lrosenth> q+
Leonard Rosenthol: q+ ←
15:13:52 <Julie_Morris> +1
Julie Morris: +1 ←
15:14:04 <Bill_Kasdorf> +1
Bill Kasdorf: +1 ←
15:14:11 <pbelfanti> +1
Paul Belfanti: +1 ←
15:14:36 <TimCole> ivan: before sending to public list, we may worth contacting ??? to see if this is the form of comments they want to receive
Ivan Herman: before sending to public list, we may worth contacting Yves to see if this is the form of comments they want to receive ←
15:14:48 <tzviya> s/???/Yves
15:15:17 <TimCole> ... we did this partly for ourselves, but also this will be of interest to Eve and others working on packaging standard
... we did this partly for ourselves, but also this will be of interest to Eve and others working on packaging standard ←
15:15:29 <lrosenth> q-
Leonard Rosenthol: q- ←
15:15:37 <TimCole> ... so we should check with them to make sure format is of use.
... so we should check with them to make sure format is of use. ←
15:15:57 <TimCole> ... alternatively we could distill out something more specific to their needs
... alternatively we could distill out something more specific to their needs ←
15:15:58 <tzviya> S/Eve/Yves
Tzviya Siegman: S/Eve/Yves ←
15:16:19 <TimCole> ... tzviya or markus will send a note to see.
... tzviya or markus will send a note to see. ←
15:17:03 <TimCole> tzviya: assuming we send this forward to Yves, do we leave it as a Wiki page or publish more formally?
Tzviya Siegman: assuming we send this forward to Yves, do we leave it as a Wiki page or publish more formally? ←
15:17:25 <TimCole> ivan: Don't know what they will prefer. For us Wiki page is okay, but they may want something more formal.
Ivan Herman: Don't know what they will prefer. For us Wiki page is okay, but they may want something more formal. ←
15:17:40 <TimCole> ... we need to check to see if Yves is on vacation
... we need to check to see if Yves is on vacation ←
15:18:04 <TimCole> ... should be back by end of the week.
... should be back by end of the week. ←
15:18:22 <tzviya> https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Oct_2015_F2F_Logistics_and_Details
Tzviya Siegman: https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Oct_2015_F2F_Logistics_and_Details ←
15:18:30 <lrosenth> q+
Leonard Rosenthol: q+ ←
15:18:49 <tzviya> ack lr
Tzviya Siegman: ack lr ←
15:18:52 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:18:52 <clapierre> q+
Charles LaPierre: q+ ←
15:19:09 <TimCole> tzviya: There are people in this group who have registered for TPAC, but have not registered for DPub session? Are they going to attend DPub and what would they want to talk about?
Tzviya Siegman: There are people in this group who have registered for TPAC, but have not registered for DPub session? Are they going to attend DPub and what would they want to talk about? ←
15:19:24 <tzviya> ack ivan
Tzviya Siegman: ack ivan ←
15:19:27 <HeatherF> q+
Heather Flanagan: q+ ←
15:19:34 <TimCole> ivan: in response to question, there will be WebEx for those who want to participate remotely.
Ivan Herman: in response to question, there will be WebEx for those who want to participate remotely. ←
15:19:43 <tzviya> https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Oct_2015_F2F_Logistics_and_Details
Tzviya Siegman: https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Oct_2015_F2F_Logistics_and_Details ←
15:20:09 <TimCole> ivan: there is a topic that came up on the mailing list - we may want to have a discussion of glossary of the terms we (DPub) uses
Ivan Herman: there is a topic that came up on the mailing list - we may want to have a discussion of glossary of the terms we (DPub) uses ←
15:20:23 <TimCole> ... this might be a good thing to have by no later than TPAC
... this might be a good thing to have by no later than TPAC ←
15:20:53 <TimCole> ... it's good to have a clear idea for ourselves and others about what we mean, especially in contrast to some of these terms as used on the Web
... it's good to have a clear idea for ourselves and others about what we mean, especially in contrast to some of these terms as used on the Web ←
15:21:04 <TimCole> ... will facilitate future work
... will facilitate future work ←
15:21:12 <HeatherF> +1
Heather Flanagan: +1 ←
15:21:21 <mgylling> q?
Markus Gylling: q? ←
15:21:22 <TimCole> tzviya: a great idea
Tzviya Siegman: a great idea ←
15:21:40 <TimCole> ... case in point - the word 'semantics'
... case in point - the word 'semantics' ←
15:22:02 <TimCole> ... let's start a wiki page now
... let's start a wiki page now ←
15:22:14 <TimCole> ivan: will do start this wiki page
Ivan Herman: will do start this wiki page ←
15:22:23 <tzviya> ack cl
Tzviya Siegman: ack cl ←
15:22:55 <TimCole> clapierre: just got confirmation that I will be going to TPAC
Charles LaPierre: just got confirmation that I will be going to TPAC ←
15:23:38 <TimCole> ... would want to schedule some time to talk about Accessibility - do we need to coordinate with P&F and/or CSS
... would want to schedule some time to talk about Accessibility - do we need to coordinate with P&F and/or CSS ←
15:24:09 <pbelfanti> q+
Paul Belfanti: q+ ←
15:24:21 <TimCole> ... have we heard about DPub charter renewal
... have we heard about DPub charter renewal ←
15:25:12 <TimCole> ivan: we had a good number of positive votes, vote being reviewed, should here in a week or two
Ivan Herman: we had a good number of positive votes, vote being reviewed, should here in a week or two ←
15:25:17 <tzviya> ack heather
Tzviya Siegman: ack heather ←
15:25:39 <TimCole> HeatherF: Any advice for first-time TPAC attendees?
Heather Flanagan: Any advice for first-time TPAC attendees? ←
15:25:44 <tzviya> ack pbel
Tzviya Siegman: ack pbel ←
15:26:18 <TimCole> pbelfanti: has a request in to attend TPAC
Paul Belfanti: has a request in to attend TPAC ←
15:26:57 <TimCole> ... would like to talk about topics raised by Daniel ???
... would like to talk about topics raised by Daniel Glazman ←
15:27:13 <tzviya> s/???/Glazman
15:27:29 <TimCole> tzviya: not everyone is aware of these topics?
Tzviya Siegman: not everyone is aware of these topics? ←
15:28:45 <TimCole> ... will review on a call before TPAC
... will review on a call before TPAC ←
15:29:21 <TimCole> ... the logistics page provides an opportunity to suggest topics / task force discussions for TPAC
... the logistics page provides an opportunity to suggest topics / task force discussions for TPAC ←
15:29:51 <pkra> do we want to talk about that MathML thread?
Peter Krautzberger: do we want to talk about that MathML thread? ←
15:30:03 <pkra> ...
Peter Krautzberger: ... ←
15:31:42 <tzviya> q?
Tzviya Siegman: q? ←
15:31:50 <Bill_Kasdorf> +1 to looking at Liam's e-mail
Bill Kasdorf: +1 to looking at Liam's e-mail ←
15:31:54 <TimCole> tzviya: if we do want to move forward with being a bit more activist, the MathML discussion suggested some possible ways forward.
Tzviya Siegman: if we do want to move forward with being a bit more activist, the MathML discussion suggested some possible ways forward. ←
15:32:17 <HeatherF> thanks
Heather Flanagan: thanks ←
15:32:17 <TimCole> ... adjourn early.
... adjourn early. ←
15:33:29 <ivan> trackbot, end telcon
Ivan Herman: trackbot, end telcon ←
15:33:29 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
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15:33:29 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
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15:33:37 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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15:33:38 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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