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Agenda PROV-WG telecon 12 April 2012
Teleconferences (official participants and invited guests only): - Thursdays, 8 am San Francisco, 11 am Boston, 4 pm London, 5 pm Paris - For up to 90 minutes, goal is 60 minutes. - Dial +1-617-761-6200 or sip:zakim@voip.w3.org then conference code 7768# - IRC channel: #prov (http://irc.w3.org/?channels=prov). - Zakim instructions: http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html - RRSAgent instructions: http://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent - Scribe list: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Scribes
Admin
- Chair: Luc Moreau
- Scribe: James Cheney
- Regrets: Paul Groth
PAQ
- New draft available from: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/paq/prov-aq.html
- prov-aq needs reviewers
- agree on timetable
- Questions for reviewers:
- Is this ready for release as a working draft?
- Is the service specification now meeting expectations?
- Are additions or modifications necessary?
Word from the chairs
- Reminder of our agreed strategy http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/meeting/2012-02-02#resolution_1
- Ambitions should be inline with agreed timetable
- Timetable is essentially not negotiable
- We agreed on a synchronized release of all documents; prov-o hasn't had a release since Xmas
Release of documents
- Check whether all reviews are in
- Recommendation summary
- Prov-dm - Tim (yes-ish), Khalid (yes), Satya (?), Curt (yes), Jun (yes), GK (no);
- Prov-dm-constraints - James (no), Tim (no), Graham (no);
- Prov-N - Khalid (yes), Simon (yes-ish), Tim (yes), James (yes)
- Prov-O: Luc (yes), Paul (yes), Simon (yes), Sam (yes), macted (?)
- Prov-PRIMER: Paolo (yes), Christine (?), Curt (yes), Luc (yes)
- Two options:
- Option A (release early): Stick to the timetable, make minor changes, vote for formal release on 19th, get external feedback, in parallel confront challenging issues.
- Option B (delay release): Confront challenging issues, force resolution, delay release.
- In any case, time-bounded tackling of issues, resulting in: consensus to incorporate in LC or drop from REC documents
- Vote on option
Challenging Issues
- PROV-DM-Constraints
- Editorial team bottleneck. James joining the team.
- PROV-N
- Looking for someone who could write a YACC grammar (also to help generate html automatically)
- PROV-O
- PROV-PRIMER
- PROV-DM
- Specialization/Alternate
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2012Apr/0156.html
- Who is taking the lead?
- Timetable?
- Responsibility
- see section 2.4 in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2012Apr/0110.html
- "... I can't see a software agent as being accountable. "
- word "Responsibility" overloaded: see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2012Apr/0111.html
- see section 2.4 in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2012Apr/0110.html
- Collections
- see section 4.5 in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2012Apr/0110.html
- are we restrictive by defining collections as key-value map, is this appropriate?
- Account
- At F2F2, we agreed to put this on a back burner until reorganization is addressed
- Propose to work on this after synchronized release
- Annotations
- Linked (or not) to accounts ISSUE-260
- Invalidation/Destruction
- Specialization/Alternate