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Comment LC-2680

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Commenter: Duff Johnson <djohnson@commonlook.com>

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[Free text description]Document as a wholeAbstract This document, "Applying WCAG 2.0 to non-Web Infor... 1. Introduction This draft document provides informative gu... Document Overview The organization of this document paralle... Understanding Key Terms There are several terms used throug... 2. Comments by Guideline and Success Criterion The sections... Principle 1: Perceivable Information and user interface co... Guideline 1.1: Text Alternatives From Guideline 1.1: Provi... Success Criterion 1.1.1: Non-text Content (Level A) From Su... Specific Benefits of Success Criterion 1.1.1 This Success... Guideline 1.2: Time-based Media From Guideline 1.2: Provid... Success Criterion 1.2.1: Audio-only and Video-only (Prereco... Success Criterion 1.2.2: Captions (Prerecorded) (Level A) F... Success Criterion 1.2.3: Audio Description or Media Alterna... Success Criterion 1.2.4: Captions (Live) (Level AA) From S... Success Criterion 1.2.5: Audio Description (Prerecorded) (L... Success Criterion 1.2.6: Sign Language (Prerecorded) (Level... Success Criterion 1.2.7: Extended Audio Description (Prerec... Success Criterion 1.2.8: Media Alternative (Prerecorded) (L... Success Criterion 1.2.9: Audio-only (Live) (Level AAA) From... Guideline 1.3: Adaptable From Guideline 1.3: Create conte... Success Criterion 1.3.1: Info and Relationships (Level A) F... Success Criterion 1.3.2: Meaningful Sequence (Level A) From... Success Criterion 1.3.3: Sensory Characteristics (Level A)... Guideline 1.4: Distinguishable From Guideline 1.4: Make i... Success Criterion 1.4.1: Use of Color (Level A) From Succe... Success Criterion 1.4.2: Audio Control (Level A) From Succ... Success Criterion 1.4.3: Contrast (Minimum) (Level AA) From... Success Criterion 1.4.4: Resize text (Level AA) From Succe... Success Criterion 1.4.5: Images of Text (Level AA) From Su... Success Criterion 1.4.6: Contrast (Enhanced) (Level AAA) Fr... Success Criterion 1.4.7: Low or No Background Audio (Level... Success Criterion 1.4.8: Visual Presentation (Level AAA) Fr... Success Criterion 1.4.9: Images of Text (No Exception) (Lev... Principle 2: Operable User interface components and naviga... Guideline 2.1: Keyboard Accessible From Guideline 2.1: Ma... Success Criterion 2.1.1: Keyboard (Level A) From Success C... Success Criterion 2.1.2: No Keyboard Trap (Level A) From S... Success Criterion 2.1.3: Keyboard (No Exception) (Level AAA... Guideline 2.2: Enough Time From Guideline 2.2: Provide use... Success Criterion 2.2.1: Timing Adjustable (Level A) From... Success Criterion 2.2.2: Pause, Stop, Hide (Level A) From S... Success Criterion 2.2.3: No Timing (Level AAA) From Succes... Success Criterion 2.2.4: Interruptions (Level AAA) From Su... Success Criterion 2.2.5: Re-authenticating (Level AAA) From... Guideline 2.3: Seizures From Guideline 2.3: Do not design... Success Criterion 2.3.1: Three Flashes or Below Threshold (... Success Criterion 2.3.2: Three Flashes (Level AAA) From Su... Guideline 2.4: Navigable From Guideline 2.4: Provide ways... Success Criterion 2.4.1: Bypass Blocks (Level A) From Succ... Success Criterion 2.4.2: Page Titled (Level A) From Succes... Success Criterion 2.4.3: Focus Order (Level A) From Succes... Success Criterion 2.4.4: Link Purpose (In Context) (Level A... Success Criterion 2.4.5: Multiple Ways (Level AA) From Suc... Success Criterion 2.4.6: Headings and Labels (Level AA) Fro... Success Criterion 2.4.7: Focus Visible (Level AA) From Suc... Success Criterion 2.4.8: Location (Level AAA) From Success... Success Criterion 2.4.9: Link Purpose (Link Only) (Level AA... Success Criterion 2.4.10: Section Headings (Level AAA) From... Principle 3: Understandable Information and the operation... Guideline 3.1: Readable From Guideline 3.1: Make text cont... Success Criterion 3.1.1: Language of Page (Level A) From S... Success Criterion 3.1.2: Language of Parts (Level AA) From... Success Criterion 3.1.3: Unusual Words (Level AAA) From Suc... Success Criterion 3.1.4: Abbreviations (Level AAA) From Suc... Success Criterion 3.1.5: Reading Level (Level AAA) From Su... Success Criterion 3.1.6: Pronunciation (Level AAA) From Su... Guideline 3.2: Predictable From Guideline 3.2: Make Web p... Success Criterion 3.2.1: On Focus (Level A) From Success C... Success Criterion 3.2.2: On Input (Level A) From Success C... Success Criterion 3.2.3: Consistent Navigation (Level AA) F... Success Criterion 3.2.4: Consistent Identification (Level A... Success Criterion 3.2.5: Change on Request (Level AAA) From... Guideline 3.3: Input Assistance From Guideline 3.3: Help u... Success Criterion 3.3.1: Error Identification (Level A) Fro... Success Criterion 3.3.2: Labels or Instructions (Level A) F... Success Criterion 3.3.3: Error Suggestion (Level AA) From... Success Criterion 3.3.4: Error Prevention (Legal, Financial... Success Criterion 3.3.5: Help (Level AAA) From Success Cri... Success Criterion 3.3.6: Error Prevention (All) (Level AAA)... Principle 4: Robust Content must be robust enough that it... Guideline 4.1: Compatible From Guideline 4.1: Maximize com... Success Criterion 4.1.1: Parsing (Level A) From Success Cr... Success Criterion 4.1.2: Name, Role, Value (Level A) From S... 3. Comments on Conformance The WCAG2ICT Task Force has not... 4. Comments on Definitions in WCAG 2.0 Glossary in Appendix... B. References No references documented yet.
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open proposal pending resolved_yes resolved_no resolved_partial other assigned to Nobody Abma, Jake Abou-Zahra, Shadi Allan, Jim Auclair, Christopher Avila, Jonathan Babinszki, Tom Bailey, Bruce Bernard, Renaldo Bernier, Alex Blake, Matthew Boudreau, Denis Brewer, Judy Butler, Shari Campbell, Alastair Carlson, Laura Chakravarthula, Srinivasu Cirrincione, Pietro Conway, Vivienne Cooper, Michael Crutchfield, Elizabeth Deltour, Romain Dick, Wayne Ding, Chaohai Dirks, Kim Dixit, Shwetank Draffan, E.A. Duggin, Alistair Eggert, Eric Elledge, Michael Faulkner, Steve Ferraz, Reinaldo Fiers, Wilco Fischer, Detlev Foliot, John Garrish, Matt Garrison, Alistair Gower, Michael Guarino Reid, Loretta Hakkinen, Markku Haritos-Shea, Katie Henry, Shawn Hoffmann, Thomas Horton, Sarah Isager, Kasper Jensen, Tobias Christian Johansson, Stefan Johlic, Marc Johnson, Rick Jones, Crystal Joys Andersen, Wilhelm Kapoor, Shilpi Keim, Oliver Kirkpatrick, Andrew Kirkwood, John Kiss, Jason Kraft, Maureen Ku, JaEun Kurapati, Sujasree Lauke, Patrick Lauriat, Shawn Lee, Steve Lemon, Gez Li, Alex Li, Kepeng Li, Liangcheng Loiselle, Chris Lowney, Greg Lui, Edwina Lund, Adam Ma, Jia MacDonald, David Mace, Amanda Manser, Erich Martin, Debra McCormack, Scott McMeeking, Chris McSorley, Jan Milliken, Neil Montgomery, Rachael Mueller, Mary Jo nicole, windmann Niemann, Gundula Nurthen, James O Connor, Joshue Oh, Jeong-Hun Panchang, Sailesh Pandhi, Charu Pasi, Aparna Patch, Kimberly Philipp, Melanie Pluke, Mike Pouncey, Ian Repsher, Stephen Rochford, John Runyan, Marla Savva, Andreas Sawczyn, Steve Schnabel, Stefan Seeman-Kestenbaum, Lisa Sims, Glenda Singh, Avneesh Skotkjerra, Stein Erik Sloan, David Smith, Alan Smith, Jim Solomon, Adam Spellman, Jeanne F Strobbe, Christophe Suprock, Greg Swallow, David Thompson, Kenneth Thyme, Anne Ueki, Makoto Vaishnav, Jatin Vanderheiden, Gregg Venkata, Manoj Wahlbin, Kathleen Wang, Can WANG, WEI White, Jason Zelmanowicz, Erica Zerner, Adam Zhang, Mengni

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Comment:

SC 2.4.5 - No advice is given here, and I'n not sure what advice could be given. Individual pages are themselves rarely "locations" in the same sense as web-pages. After all, no-one ever produces a table of contents that lists every page in a document unless (for example) headings are present on every page.

For this reason the idea of having "more than one way… to locate a web page" is inapplicable in instances where the _only_ "way" is the physical and/or logical page number. Speaking of which… would this SC be referring (in electronic documents) to "locating" the physical page or the logical page?, if any? I'm guessing it's the physical page, but I just don't know.

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WG Notes:

Proposed Resolution: (same issue / answer as for issue #2677) We identified similar problems dealing with the concept of "set of Web pages" when applied to documents. Each web page in WCAG is defined by its URL and can be opened independently of the others but a page within a non-web document cannot be opened independently. Therefore, when applied to documents, a "web page" is interpreted as a "document" and a "set of web pages" is interpreted as a "set of documents". We are still exploring this issue for software."

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