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This questionnaire was open from 2020-10-06 to 2020-10-29.
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The rule audio or video avoids automatically playing audio was updated to resolve Issue 456. Review the updated rule and answer the questions in this survey.
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Kathy Eng | |
Daniel Montalvo | |
Levon Spradlin | |
Mary Jo Mueller |
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Yes | 5 |
No. I have opened an issue in GitHub or have documented my comments below. | |
I don't know. My questions are documented below. | 1 |
Responder | Consistency with ACT Rules Format | Comments |
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Trevor Bostic | I don't know. My questions are documented below. | I think duration needs to be removed from the applicability. Of the input rules, one essentially handles <3 seconds and the other handles > 3 seconds, saying all videos are > 3 seconds essentially only makes the second rule apply. |
Wilco Fiers | Yes | |
Kathy Eng | Yes | |
Daniel Montalvo | Yes | |
Levon Spradlin | Yes | |
Mary Jo Mueller | Yes |
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Yes | 4 |
No. I have opened an issue in GitHub or have documented my comments below. | 1 |
I don't know. My questions are documented below. | 1 |
Responder | Rule assumptions | Comments |
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Trevor Bostic | Yes | |
Wilco Fiers | Yes | |
Kathy Eng | I don't know. My questions are documented below. | first assumption: This rule assumes that it is not possible to satisfy Success Criterion 1.4.2 Audio Control if the total length of the automatically playing audio is more than 3 seconds, even if there are pauses in the sound and no more than 3 seconds in a row with actual sound. - "not possible to satisfy" is troublesome because it is possible as described by the next assumption bullets. This may be changing the intent of the original sentence but suggest changing to - This rule assumes that the rule applies to all automatically playing video that is more than 3 seconds, even if there are pauses in the sound and no more than 3 seconds in a row with actual sound. |
Daniel Montalvo | Yes | Just minor typo in the composite, assumptions, second bullet "Screen readers users" I would drop the 's' from "readers". Comment: In the assumptions we use the term "mechanisms" `as defined by WCAG, and in the examples we use "instruments". I think I see the point that we use mechanisms in the assumptions because we want to stick to WCAG terminology as much as we can, and then we use "instruments" in the examples because we have an ad hoc definition we are sure we can adhere to for the examples. But just checking if this was the intent. |
Levon Spradlin | Yes | |
Mary Jo Mueller | No. I have opened an issue in GitHub or have documented my comments below. | I think the first assumption should be deleted. It assumes all of the videos that are applicable to this rule will fail. The third assumption also says that the mechanism can be hidden to some users and still pass this criteria, but that would fail WCAG. So to me having a partially accessible mechanism to pause or stop the audio wouldn't really meet the 1.4.2 criteria. IMO this SC isn't just about screen reader users, it also includes persons with cognitive disabilities who find such autoplaying content distracting. |
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Yes | 3 |
No. I have opened an issue in GitHub or have documented my comments below. | 1 |
I don't know. My questions or comments are documented below. | 2 |
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Trevor Bostic | No. I have opened an issue in GitHub or have documented my comments below. | Custom controls video 'play/pause' button shows play even when the video is autoplaying instead of the expected 'pause' to stop the video. |
Wilco Fiers | I don't know. My questions or comments are documented below. | The data isn't 100% consistent. Given this is because of technical issues, and I do not believe there is anything in the missing test data that would cause issues, I am personally satisfied with the amount of data there is. |
Kathy Eng | I don't know. My questions or comments are documented below. | With mechanism assumptions, is it necessary to use "instrument"? Suggest splitting Passed Ex 1 into two separate examples: one for pause/stop and one for volume control Splitting hairs but Passed Ex 2, which does not play for longer than 3 secs, would be not applicable for 1.4.2, not pass. |
Daniel Montalvo | Yes | |
Levon Spradlin | Yes | |
Mary Jo Mueller | Yes | According to the reports, SortSite has a full implementation. |
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Yes | 5 |
No. I have opened an issue in GitHub or have documented my comments below. | |
I don't know. My questions or comments are documented below. | 1 |
Responder | Consistent with accessibility requirements | Comments |
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Trevor Bostic | Yes | |
Wilco Fiers | Yes | |
Kathy Eng | I don't know. My questions or comments are documented below. | WCAG Non-interference is listed as "Not required to conformance to any W3C accessibility recommendation." but https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/Understanding/conformance, under Understanding Conformance Requirements, "There are five requirements that must be met in order for content to be classified as 'conforming' to WCAG 2.0." Non-interference is Requirement 5. |
Daniel Montalvo | Yes | |
Levon Spradlin | Yes | |
Mary Jo Mueller | Yes |
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Yes there are open issues that need to be resolved. I have listed them below. | 1 |
Yes, there are open issues but they don't need to be resolved for the rule to be published. | |
No, there are no open issues. | 5 |
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Trevor Bostic | No, there are no open issues. | |
Wilco Fiers | No, there are no open issues. | |
Kathy Eng | No, there are no open issues. | |
Daniel Montalvo | Yes there are open issues that need to be resolved. I have listed them below. | Last week's discussions left a couple of issues to work on. |
Levon Spradlin | No, there are no open issues. | |
Mary Jo Mueller | No, there are no open issues. |
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Yes, I have questions or concerns, described below. | 2 |
No, I have no further questions or concerns. | 4 |
Responder | Other questions or concerns | Comments |
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Trevor Bostic | No, I have no further questions or concerns. | |
Wilco Fiers | Yes, I have questions or concerns, described below. | It seems to me this rule can be done in one of two ways. Either as a composite rule like is now, but then the "3 second" thing in the applicability is unnecessary, or we could have just a single atomic rule that maps directly to 1.4.2, by putting the 3 second audio exception into the applicability. I personally would prefer that solution. It seems cleaner to me, but I'd be okay with either solution. |
Kathy Eng | Yes, I have questions or concerns, described below. | One of the Expectations is that the target passes Audio Or Video That Plays Automatically Has No Audio That Lasts More Than 3 Seconds. 1.4.2 only applies to audio that lasts for more than 3 seconds, so [...] no audio that lasts more than 3 seconds would be inapplicable, not pass. |
Daniel Montalvo | No, I have no further questions or concerns. | |
Levon Spradlin | No, I have no further questions or concerns. | |
Mary Jo Mueller | No, I have no further questions or concerns. |
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Yes, all information is up-to-date. | 6 |
No, it needs the following changes. | |
I don't know, but I have the following concerns. |
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Trevor Bostic | Yes, all information is up-to-date. | |
Wilco Fiers | Yes, all information is up-to-date. | |
Kathy Eng | Yes, all information is up-to-date. | |
Daniel Montalvo | Yes, all information is up-to-date. | |
Levon Spradlin | Yes, all information is up-to-date. | |
Mary Jo Mueller | Yes, all information is up-to-date. |
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Yes, it is ready to publish as-is. | 2 |
Yes, it is ready to publish with the following changes. | 2 |
No, it is not ready to publish and the reason is documented below. | 2 |
Responder | Readiness for publishing | Comments |
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Trevor Bostic | No, it is not ready to publish and the reason is documented below. | Needs the changes above. |
Wilco Fiers | Yes, it is ready to publish as-is. | Assuming SortSite's implementation is meets our prerequisites for a complete implementation. |
Kathy Eng | Yes, it is ready to publish with the following changes. | WCAG non-conformance and assumption bullet 1 update |
Daniel Montalvo | No, it is not ready to publish and the reason is documented below. | Applicability needs to be worked on based on last week's discussions. |
Levon Spradlin | Yes, it is ready to publish as-is. | |
Mary Jo Mueller | Yes, it is ready to publish with the following changes. | It needs the applicability updated. |
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