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Results of Questionnaire ACT TF - Rule Review: Form control has accessible name

The results of this questionnaire are available to anybody. In addition, answers are sent to the following email addresses: team-wcag-act-surveys@w3.org,maryjom@us.ibm.com,wilco.fiers@deque.com

This questionnaire was open from 2020-01-22 to 2020-02-05.

6 answers have been received.

Jump to results for question:

  1. Instructions
  2. Consistency with ACT Rules Format
  3. Rule assumptions
  4. Implementation data
  5. Consistent with WCAG
  6. Remaining open issues
  7. Other questions or concerns
  8. Readiness for publishing

1. Instructions

Review the rule Form control has accessible name and answer the questions in this survey. If there are issues with the rule, please open an issue in GitHub or provide details in the entry fields for the applicable question.

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Responder Instructions
Kasper Isager Dalsgarð
Wilco Fiers
David MacDonald
Kathy Eng
Charu Pandhi
Trevor Bostic

2. Consistency with ACT Rules Format

Does the rule follow the ACT Rules Format 1.0?

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Yes 6
No. I have opened an issue in GitHub or have documented my comments below.
I don't know. My questions are documented below.

Details

Responder Consistency with ACT Rules FormatComments
Kasper Isager Dalsgarð Yes
Wilco Fiers Yes
David MacDonald Yes
Kathy Eng Yes
Charu Pandhi Yes
Trevor Bostic Yes

3. Rule assumptions

Are the assumptions acceptable?

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
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Yes 5
No. I have opened an issue in GitHub or have documented my comments below.
I don't know. My questions are documented below. 1

Details

Responder Rule assumptionsComments
Kasper Isager Dalsgarð Yes
Wilco Fiers Yes
David MacDonald Yes
Kathy Eng Yes
Charu Pandhi I don't know. My questions are documented below. Will there be a separate rule for 3.3.2: Labels or Instructions? cuz form can have an accessible name and can still fail 3.3.2 for e.g. with aria-label. Should we make that clear?
Trevor Bostic Yes

4. Implementation data

Is the implementation data correct?

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ChoiceAll responders
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Yes 4
No. I have opened an issue in GitHub or have documented my comments below.
I don't know. My questions or comments are documented below. 2

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Responder Implementation dataComments
Kasper Isager Dalsgarð Yes
Wilco Fiers Yes
David MacDonald Yes
Kathy Eng I don't know. My questions or comments are documented below. 1. For Trusted Tester, Pass Example 2 would be inapplicable because it is disabled. Disabled input elements do not receive keyboard focus, cannot be selected, and cannot be modified.

2. Did not find form elements for examples with explicit roles (Pass 5, Fail 3,4,5,6) so TT results would be inapplicable.
Charu Pandhi Yes
Trevor Bostic I don't know. My questions or comments are documented below. I would suggest making failed examples 3 and 4 use input examples. The div + role combo just adds confusion I think.

5. Consistent with WCAG

Is the rule consistent with existing WCAG documents?

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Yes 5
No. I have opened an issue in GitHub or have documented my comments below.
I don't know. My questions or comments are documented below. 1

Details

Responder Consistent with WCAGComments
Kasper Isager Dalsgarð Yes
Wilco Fiers Yes
David MacDonald I don't know. My questions or comments are documented below. Wondering about this
<input aria-label="last name" disabled />

Should this also pass
<input aria-label="" disabled />

OR this
<input disabled />

I'm thinking that a disabled control wouldn't need an accessible name unless that name was visually presented in which case it would be 1.3.1... but I'm open to discussing this.

I've seen examples of an offscreen <select> which was used by javascript to feed values into a quantity <span> which seemed to work OK with AT.

<button aria-label="decrease quantity by 1"> - </button><span id='dynamic-from-select'>Quantity 2</span><button aria-label="Increase quantity by 1> + </button>
(offscreen)
<select disabled>
<option>1</option>
<option>2</option>
...</select>
Kathy Eng Yes
Charu Pandhi Yes
Trevor Bostic Yes

6. Remaining open issues

Are there any remaining open issues for this rule that were opened prior to this review?

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ChoiceAll responders
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Yes there are open issues that need to be resolved. I have listed them below. 1
Yes, there are open issues but they don't need to be resolved for the rule to be published. 1
No, there are no open issues. 4

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Responder Remaining open issuesComments
Kasper Isager Dalsgarð Yes there are open issues that need to be resolved. I have listed them below. https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/826
Wilco Fiers Yes, there are open issues but they don't need to be resolved for the rule to be published. There's an issue open for combobox: https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/826

The ARIA working group has proposed a fix to combobox, which means it will required an accessible name. I don't think this needs to be resolved.
David MacDonald No, there are no open issues.
Kathy Eng No, there are no open issues.
Charu Pandhi No, there are no open issues.
Trevor Bostic No, there are no open issues.

7. Other questions or concerns

Do you have any further questions or concerns about this rule?

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
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Yes, I have questions or concerns, described below.
No, I have no further questions or concerns. 6

Details

Responder Other questions or concernsComments
Kasper Isager Dalsgarð No, I have no further questions or concerns.
Wilco Fiers No, I have no further questions or concerns.
David MacDonald No, I have no further questions or concerns.
Kathy Eng No, I have no further questions or concerns.
Charu Pandhi No, I have no further questions or concerns.
Trevor Bostic No, I have no further questions or concerns.

8. Readiness for publishing

Do you think this rule is ready to be published?

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Yes, it is ready to publish as-is. 2
Yes, it is ready to publish with the following changes. 4
No, it is not ready to publish and the reason is documented below.

Details

Responder Readiness for publishingComments
Kasper Isager Dalsgarð Yes, it is ready to publish with the following changes. The remaining issue needs to be resolved.
Wilco Fiers Yes, it is ready to publish with the following changes. - The second note in applicability says:

> This means WCAG 2.1 does not require it to have an accessible name.

I'm not convinced this is true anymore. An argument can be made that the "value" part of "Name, role, value" requires that options have an accessible name. I'm OK leaving that ouf ot the rule, but this sentence should probably be removed.

- Passed example 2 would be improved by adding a visible label as well

- Passed example 3 would be improved by adding one or two non-empty options

- Passed example 6 may pass the rule but it does not satisfy the success criterion. It would be better to remove it.

- Failed example 7 seems unnecessary. Could potentially be removed

- Inapplicable example 2, 3 and 4 are still focusable, and arguably might still fail SC 4.1.2. They should be disabled
David MacDonald Yes, it is ready to publish with the following changes. As per my question above.
Kathy Eng Yes, it is ready to publish with the following changes. test case questions #4
Charu Pandhi Yes, it is ready to publish as-is.
Trevor Bostic Yes, it is ready to publish as-is.

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Non-responders

The following persons have not answered the questionnaire:

  1. Katie Haritos-Shea
  2. Romain Deltour
  3. Alastair Campbell
  4. Mary Jo Mueller
  5. Detlev Fischer
  6. Chris Loiselle
  7. Jonathan Avila
  8. Rachael Bradley Montgomery
  9. Charles Adams
  10. Daniel Montalvo
  11. Helen Burge
  12. Todd Libby
  13. Thomas Brunet
  14. Catherine Droege
  15. Suji Sreerama
  16. Shane Dittmar
  17. Nayan Padrai
  18. Sage Keriazes

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