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Results of Questionnaire EOWG Weekly Survey - 14 August 2015
The results of this questionnaire are available to anybody. In addition, answers are sent to the following email addresses: shawn@w3.org,shadi@w3.org,kevin@w3.org
This questionnaire was open from 2015-08-14 to 2015-08-20.
10 answers have been received.
Jump to results for question:
- Tips - Combining writing tips
- Tips - Changes for review
- Tips - Icons
- Tips - Icons - Designing 1
- Tips - Icons - Designing 2
- Tips - Icons - Designing 3
- Tips - Icons - Evaluating
1. Tips - Combining writing tips
**Note that action on this item is due by Wednesday 19 August at the very latest**
For this issue, we are using the wiki page: Writing Tips combined.
Please review background and add your comments in the Fresh Perspectives section. If you are not comfortable with writing to the wiki, post your comments here or to the EOWG mailing list.
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
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| Results | |
| I reviewed the issue and put my comments in the wiki. | 7 |
| I reviewed the issue and put my comments below or in email to the EOWG list | 1 |
| I'm not going to be able to get to this, and I will pass on commenting on it. |
(2 responses didn't contain an answer to this question)
Details
| Responder | Tips - Combining writing tips | |
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| George Heake | ||
| Eric Eggert | I reviewed the issue and put my comments in the wiki. | |
| Sharron Rush | I reviewed the issue and put my comments in the wiki. | |
| Shawn Lawton Henry | I reviewed the issue and put my comments in the wiki. | |
| Melody Ma | I reviewed the issue and put my comments below or in email to the EOWG list | One tip is sufficient at this level. The two separate tips seem similar enough that expanding them to two or more does not add additional value. |
| Jonathan Metz | I reviewed the issue and put my comments in the wiki. | |
| Brent Bakken | I reviewed the issue and put my comments in the wiki. | |
| Lydia Harkey | ||
| Shadi Abou-Zahra | I reviewed the issue and put my comments in the wiki. | |
| Andrew Arch | I reviewed the issue and put my comments in the wiki. |
2. Tips - Changes for review
We made the following changes to the Tips pages last week:
- Writing Tips - Page Titles tip - changed example (GitHub #132)
- Writing Tips - Headings example - changed styling of headings and presentation of example (GitHub 83ffe8b)
- Writing Tips - Clear instructions tip - simplified example (GitHub c6b006e)
- Designing Tips - Tip on instructions - slight changes to title and content (GitHub 36cd624)
To comment on any of the changes, please use the GitHub links above (or comment in this survey, or raise a new issue in GitHub).
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
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| Results | |
| I'm OK with these changes. | 5 |
| I put comments in GitHub. | 2 |
| I put comments below. | 1 |
| I have not gotten to this yet, and will do it by: [put in the Comment field the date by which you will get to it] | |
| I'm not going to be able to get to this, and I will pass on commenting on it. |
(2 responses didn't contain an answer to this question)
Details
| Responder | Tips - Changes for review | Comments |
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| George Heake | ||
| Eric Eggert | I'm OK with these changes. | |
| Sharron Rush | I'm OK with these changes. | |
| Shawn Lawton Henry | I put comments in GitHub. | |
| Melody Ma | I put comments below. | 2. Headings should be semantically correct too and not just styles. May be a dev/design tip more than writing though... |
| Jonathan Metz | I'm OK with these changes. | |
| Brent Bakken | I'm OK with these changes. | |
| Lydia Harkey | I'm OK with these changes. | |
| Shadi Abou-Zahra | I put comments in GitHub. | |
| Andrew Arch |
3. Tips - Icons
EOWG previously agreed on icons for Writing, Developing, Managing, and Advocating. For Designing, we have narrowed it down to 3 options. For Evaluating, we have one option.
To review past discussions, see:
- Introduce topic of Icons for Tips in 05 June Minutes
- Explore and discuss draft icons in 12 June Minutes
- Detail of Icon Issues in GitHub
Please see the agreed upon icons, the options, and some of the ideas rejected in the Icon Samples page.
The questions below ask about current options. If you have another strong suggestion for designing, please put a link to the image in the comments here.
Details
| Responder | Tips - Icons |
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| George Heake | |
| Eric Eggert | |
| Sharron Rush | |
| Shawn Lawton Henry | |
| Melody Ma | |
| Jonathan Metz | I feel a little uncomfortable voting one way or another since I modified some of the icons so it might seem like I'm rooting for specific icon to win. So I put my preference, but I'll also go whatever the rest of the group decides. |
| Brent Bakken | |
| Lydia Harkey | |
| Shadi Abou-Zahra | |
| Andrew Arch |
4. Tips - Icons - Designing 1
summary | by responder | by choice
Icon of paint brush.Pros: Simple, clean, works well at all sizes
Cons: Conveys only art/visual design; Does not covey interaction design at all, which is a significant part of this page
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
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| Results | |
| I prefer Designing icon 1 (paint brush) | 1 |
| I'm OK with Designing icon 1 (paint brush) | 3 |
| I have concerns with Designing icon 1 (paint brush) | 5 |
| I'm not going to be able to get to this; I will pass on commenting on it and go with the decision of the Group. | 1 |
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| Responder | Tips - Icons - Designing 1 | Comments |
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| George Heake | ||
| Eric Eggert |
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| Sharron Rush |
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painting and web design are not closely analogous enough. |
| Shawn Lawton Henry |
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I am concerned that it only communicates visual design, not user interface design. I think some people would see the paint brush and "Designing" and not go further to see that it also covers user interface design. |
| Melody Ma |
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A nicer paintbrush would be nice. |
| Jonathan Metz |
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I think most designers would hate to be associated with a paintbrush. I know I do. I hated painting in art school. |
| Brent Bakken |
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I just don't like the paintbrush alone for designing. It is not the correct icon for the purpose. |
| Lydia Harkey |
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| Shadi Abou-Zahra |
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| Andrew Arch |
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However I do prefer the paint brush with the computer for broader design audience |
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| Choice | Responders |
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| I prefer Designing icon 1 (paint brush) |
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| I'm OK with Designing icon 1 (paint brush) |
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| I have concerns with Designing icon 1 (paint brush) |
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| I'm not going to be able to get to this; I will pass on commenting on it and go with the decision of the Group. |
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5. Tips - Icons - Designing 2
summary | by responder | by choice
Icon of computer with paint brush.Pros: Conveys design for a digital platform
Cons: Not as clear at smallest size
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
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| Results | |
| I prefer Designing icon 2 (computer with paint brush) | 4 |
| I'm OK with Designing icon 2 (computer with paint brush) | 2 |
| I have concerns with Designing icon 2 (computer with paint brush) | 2 |
| I'm not going to be able to get to this; I will pass on commenting on it and go with the decision of the Group. | 1 |
(1 response didn't contain an answer to this question)
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| Responder | Tips - Icons - Designing 2 | Comments |
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| George Heake | ||
| Eric Eggert |
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Doesn’t really look like a computer for me, could also be “painting a window”… OK with it if the majority thinks this is better. |
| Sharron Rush |
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same as above |
| Shawn Lawton Henry |
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| Melody Ma | ||
| Jonathan Metz |
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I think it's clearer than the other two and better association with Designers. I do think the brush should move up a tad in the rounded rectangle and I sent Kevin and Shawn a suggestion in svg format today. |
| Brent Bakken |
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This is okay. Better than the stand alone paint brush. But I prefer the wireframe icon over this icon. |
| Lydia Harkey |
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| Shadi Abou-Zahra |
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It looks to me like painting on a screen - actually, the paintbrush is not really very evident so it looks like writing or scratching the screen. I don't easily see the association with "designing". |
| Andrew Arch |
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| Choice | Responders |
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| I prefer Designing icon 2 (computer with paint brush) |
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| I'm OK with Designing icon 2 (computer with paint brush) |
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| I have concerns with Designing icon 2 (computer with paint brush) |
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| I'm not going to be able to get to this; I will pass on commenting on it and go with the decision of the Group. |
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6. Tips - Icons - Designing 3
summary | by responder | by choice
Icon of wireframe.Pros: Conveys page design
Cons: More complicated, not clear at small sizes
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
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| Results | |
| I prefer Designing icon 3 (wireframe) | 2 |
| I'm OK with Designing icon 3 (wireframe) | 4 |
| I have concerns with Designing icon 3 (wireframe) | 3 |
| I'm not going to be able to get to this; I will pass on commenting on it and go with the decision of the Group. |
(1 response didn't contain an answer to this question)
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| Responder | Tips - Icons - Designing 3 | Comments |
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| George Heake | ||
| Eric Eggert |
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Don’t like it, it doesn’t convey “creativity”. |
| Sharron Rush |
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This seems more relevant but clarity is a real issue. what about the compass and ruler? |
| Shawn Lawton Henry |
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| Melody Ma | ||
| Jonathan Metz |
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It's difficult to see what's going on in a small size. |
| Brent Bakken |
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I don't think the smallest size is too much of a problem. The larger sizes are introduce in the Overview and will be on the heading of the page. The megaphone has the same issue but it does not seem to be an issue for the group. |
| Lydia Harkey |
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| Shadi Abou-Zahra |
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I really like this because it emphasizes the non-visual aspect of "designing", which is a little lost by the paintbrush analogy. |
| Andrew Arch |
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details get lost too quickly |
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| Choice | Responders |
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| I prefer Designing icon 3 (wireframe) |
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| I'm OK with Designing icon 3 (wireframe) |
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| I have concerns with Designing icon 3 (wireframe) |
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| I'm not going to be able to get to this; I will pass on commenting on it and go with the decision of the Group. |
7. Tips - Icons - Evaluating
summary | by responder | by choice
We spent quite a bit of effort exploring icons of Evaluating. Several were rejected for specific reasons — e.g., anything related to a checkbox was rejected and there was discomfort with a magnifying glass. We're left with a bug icon, even though some people were not keen on it previously.Pros: Simple, clean, works well at all sizes; "bug" is common idea for programmers, QA, managers, and others (who are primary, although not only, audiences of this page)
Cons: Won't be immediately understood by all (some in EOWG thought of it as crawling through a website, which is good, too)
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
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| Results | |
| I really like the bug icon for Evaluating | 5 |
| I'm OK with the bug icon for Evaluating | 4 |
| I have concerns with the bug icon for Evaluating, and have another strong suggestion of an icon, which is linked in the comments below | |
| I'm not going to be able to get to this; I will pass on commenting on it and go with the decision of the Group. |
(1 response didn't contain an answer to this question)
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| Responder | Tips - Icons - Evaluating | Comments |
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| George Heake | ||
| Eric Eggert |
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I think it is a nice icon. I would have preferred the heart monitor slightly but I think in context the bug is totally fine. |
| Sharron Rush |
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| Shawn Lawton Henry |
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| Melody Ma |
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| Jonathan Metz |
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| Brent Bakken |
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I still like it for the same reasons I have stated earlier. No change in my decision. |
| Lydia Harkey |
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Bug in IT world means there is a problem or evaluate for problems as mentioned. The symbol of monitor and magnify glass is another option that could convey to evaluate/review or scan the page. If using the bug for evaluating tips - I think we would capture a vast majority of the audience and would be consistent with what the programmers, QA, etc are familiar with already. |
| Shadi Abou-Zahra |
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I like the magnifying lens on desktop screen without the bug too (4th option after the bug option). |
| Andrew Arch |
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| Choice | Responders |
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| I really like the bug icon for Evaluating |
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| I'm OK with the bug icon for Evaluating |
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| I have concerns with the bug icon for Evaluating, and have another strong suggestion of an icon, which is linked in the comments below | |
| I'm not going to be able to get to this; I will pass on commenting on it and go with the decision of the Group. |
More details on responses
- George Heake: last responded on 18, August 2015 at 11:58 (UTC)
- Eric Eggert: last responded on 18, August 2015 at 15:24 (UTC)
- Sharron Rush: last responded on 18, August 2015 at 19:01 (UTC)
- Shawn Lawton Henry: last responded on 18, August 2015 at 19:04 (UTC)
- Melody Ma: last responded on 19, August 2015 at 05:52 (UTC)
- Jonathan Metz: last responded on 19, August 2015 at 19:55 (UTC)
- Brent Bakken: last responded on 19, August 2015 at 22:20 (UTC)
- Lydia Harkey: last responded on 20, August 2015 at 01:21 (UTC)
- Shadi Abou-Zahra: last responded on 20, August 2015 at 14:21 (UTC)
- Andrew Arch: last responded on 21, August 2015 at 04:38 (UTC)
Non-responders
The following persons have not answered the questionnaire:
- Eric Velleman
- Sylvie Duchateau
- Kazuhito Kidachi
- Jedi Lin
- David Sloan
- Mary Jo Mueller
- Vicki Menezes Miller
- Reinaldo Ferraz
- Bill Kasdorf
- Cristina Mussinelli
- Kevin White
- Kevin Rydberg
- Ahmath Bamba MBACKE
- Adina Halter
- Laura Keen
- Sarah Pulis
- Bill Tyler
- Gregorio Pellegrino
- Ruoxi Ran
- Jennifer Chadwick
- Sean Kelly
- Muhammad Saleem
- Sarah Lewthwaite
- Daniel Montalvo
- Jade Matos Carew
- Sonsoles López Pernas
- Greta Krafsig
- Jayne Schurick
- Billie Johnston
- Michele Williams
- Shikha Nikhil Dwivedi
- Brian Elton
- Julianna Rowsell
- Tabitha Mahoney
- Fred Edora
- Rabab Gomaa
- Marcelo Paiva
- Eloisa Guerrero
- Leonard Beasley
- Frankie Wolf
- Supriya Makude
- Aleksandar Cindrikj
- Angela Young
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