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Please review the editor's note at the top of section 5 and then include any additional comments, questions or concerns you wish to include in an editor's note for this exploratory content.
Responder | Comments and Concerns to include into a draft editor's note |
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Jennifer Strickland | This work should remain exploratory until WCAG3 evolves testing and conformance. Please explain any possible reasoning for why this would be included in testing. In the Editor's Note I don't see anything that explains this. Rather I see a list of questions and some clarifications of terminology. |
Gundula Niemann | It should say "An outcome" (first words) |
Jaunita George | |
Mary Jo Mueller | IMO, the list of questions is very extensive and the editor's note doesn't indicate if these are questions that you are seeking input on or simply questions that the group intends to answer in future draft content. If response to the questions is being sought, some of the questions are too broad or can be interpreted in different ways so readers may not really know what is being asked and how to respond. As one example: The current question, "Is it possible to localize it into different languages?" Does this mean, "Can/should a protocol be localized (translated) into different languages?" or "Is there a need to have protocols that are specific to a locale or type of language (e.g. right to left, left to right, to support Kanji or other symbol-based writing)?" Do you want the responder to give some examples? If so, ask for them. |
Jeanne F Spellman | We would want an example between small and large >5FTE and <25 FTE -- but that is assumed and not relevant to the examples. We should consider the evaluations in total as well as individual, because I think that the examples are too heavy weight if an organization were doing multiple outcomes all requiring similar examples. |
Bruce Bailey | |
Rachael Bradley Montgomery |
Do you support adding the "Evaluating Procedures" proposal into the testing section (replacing procedures) as Exploratory?
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Responder | Add "Evaluating Procedures" Proposal into testing section (replacing procedures) as Exploratory | Comments |
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Jennifer Strickland | no | I don't understand how the "Evaluating Procedures" proposal fits into testing. First, what is Testing in WCAG3? Do we have that yet? Why would we add anything to it? I'm not putting my money into an account that will some day be created. Second, Protocols are not to be used to assert conformance with any standard. Rather, protocols serve to show the effort made to evaluate *subjective* WCAG guidelines that cannot be measured objectively. Using an established protocol as a guide to evaluate subjective outcomes is a way that folks developing digital services can meet the spirit of WCAG subjective outcomes. In an ideal world, WCAG would provide what protocols do — the reality is WCAG lacks the volunteers and effective processes to output the guidance for all the subjective outcomes. WCAG is busting at the seams in desperate need of more volunteers, functional processes that those volunteers can effectively output guidelines, and accessible, equitable, and inclusive methods to participate in WCAG. |
Gundula Niemann | no | To me it is not clear whether an " outcome evaluation procedure" describes how a company plans to go or how it went. On one hand it says "Outcome implementation procedures describe inputs to the process such as documentation of steps, actions taken, date completed, ..." which suggests the way was already gone. On the other hand example 1 it says "This procedure aims to ensure that ...". which suggests the way is planned to go. In order to clearly suggest the meaning I suggest to also change the name, for example to "method" (if this is meant) or journal / logbook (if this is meant). |
Jaunita George | yes | |
Mary Jo Mueller | yes | It's fine adding it, though there are some terms and abbreviations used that have no definition that could hinder understanding of the content. e.g. "FTE assignments" where "FTE" is never spelled out. Use of "assertion" vs. "declaration" vs. "statement" in the questions vs. the use of "outcome implementation procedures" in the draft content. This makes it difficult to determine if you're talking about something else or the same thing by different terms. |
Jeanne F Spellman | yes | This is a great start that will allow us to include guidance into WCAG3 that could not be included in the WCAG 2.x structure. |
Bruce Bailey | yes | |
Rachael Bradley Montgomery | yes |
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