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Results of Questionnaire Prioritization of Personalization Semantic Sections

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This questionnaire was open from 2017-10-12 to 2017-11-14.

3 answers have been received.

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  1. Simplification: Prioritization
  2. Simplification Implementations
  3. Adding Context: Prioritization
  4. Adding Context: Implementations
  5. Concept Codes: Prioritization
  6. Concept Codes: Implementations
  7. Potential parts of a page: Prioritization
  8. Potential parts of a page: Implementations
  9. Number free: Prioritization
  10. Number free: Implementations
  11. Non-literal text and images: Prioritization
  12. Non-literal text and images: Implementations
  13. Explain and feedback: Prioritization
  14. Explain and feedback: Implementations
  15. More Help: Prioritization
  16. More Help: Implementations
  17. Potential Features: Prioritization
  18. Potential Features: Implementations
  19. Language type support: Prioritization
  20. Language type support: Implementations
  21. Logs: Prioritization
  22. Logs: Implementations
  23. Reminders and messages: Prioritization
  24. Reminders and messages: Implementations
  25. Distractions: Prioritization
  26. Distractions: Implementations
  27. New Misc: Prioritization
  28. New Misc: Implementations
  29. Additional WAI-ARIA roles: Prioritization
  30. Additional WAI-ARIA roles: Implementations

1. Simplification: Prioritization

Do we want to deprioritize Simplification and add an editor’s note explaining our decision?

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes
no 3

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Responder Simplification: PrioritizationComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz no
Gregg Vanderheiden no I don't think we WANT to
but I think we HAVE to unless we can figure out how to actually do it. Otherwise it is a great thought but a bad requirement.

1) This should say that it should be programmatically determinable which category it goes in -- so that AT or browsers could present different levels of information to the user - not just have them all there with markings next to them making it more complicated to view/read.

2) the definition of the levels is problemmatic. We need to figure out how to do these better. My experience is that it is so easy to mess with these types of definitions. For example -- I have a shopping site. only 18-20 % of the people who come to the site actually buy something. So all of the checkout parts are only medium to low priority -- and would disappear if people asked to show only the important things.

Also - I did research and my ads are intrusive enough that my data show that 70% of the people see/read them. So they are most important. and for my site to stay up - I certainly think they are important.

so now we have a shopping site with the add shown but not the checkout parts? or rather - whatever I want to show showing as important.

PERHAPS - we can look to definitions that look like "all the parts absolutely required for use of the site -- but when we looked at this in WCAG 2.0 -- we found that not showing people discounts and sales was discriminatory -- they needed to see the sales as well. And most of the features - someone thought were really important for some users with disabilities. We ended up not being able to define "what was important" in a way that someone else on the team could not poke a hole in. Maybe if we can think of categories of information instead of saying importance.

Body
Navigation
Checkout
Advertising

etc -- thought people HATE to tag their advertisements because that is how they make the money to keep their sites up.

so LOVE the idea but don't see how to do it
Charles LaPierre no

2. Simplification Implementations

Do you know of any intended implementations of Simplification? Please add any implementations you know of in the comments section below.

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes 2
no 1

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Responder Simplification ImplementationsComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz yes Easyreader - using these semantics is explicit in the proposal
Gregg Vanderheiden yes The best I have seen is where there is a simple version at top or bottom. Acts as kind of an abstract.
Charles LaPierre no

3. Adding Context: Prioritization

Do we want to deprioritize Adding Context and add an editor’s note explaining our decision?

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes
no 3

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Responder Adding Context: PrioritizationComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz no
Gregg Vanderheiden no I think this one is a winner --

But I think we should change any requirement to say that the requirement can be met if you
EITHER use the "name-from-list-of-coga-names" as the name on the item itself
OR you add the coga-xxxx=coganame attribute to the item. EITHER one can be used. That way we don't create a lot of extra work for people useing standard names.

the only problem with this is that you need to define your list of common names in all the different languages of the world. But you need to do that anyway. And you can't use translators. For example HOME button is a translation of START in some languages -- not a translation of the word HOME. and SUBMIT might translate into "surrender" or "capitulate" which is a pretty strange button on a form.

by the way -- who is working on all of the translations of all of the words on all of our lists into all of the different languages of the Web?
Charles LaPierre no

4. Adding Context: Implementations

Do you know of any intended implementations of Adding Context? Please add any implementations you know of in the comments section below.

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes 1
no 2

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Responder Adding Context: ImplementationsComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz yes easyreader and the athena plugin
Gregg Vanderheiden no
Charles LaPierre no

5. Concept Codes: Prioritization

Do we want to deprioritize Concept Codes and add an editor’s note explaining our decision?

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes 1
no 2

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Responder Concept Codes: PrioritizationComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz no
Gregg Vanderheiden yes only because we have nothing there. And we have not figured out how to handle the problems with the above items.

But I think it is ok to have a comment about what this concept is. However I would not include it if we don't have some good examples.
Charles LaPierre no

6. Concept Codes: Implementations

Do you know of any intended implementations of Concept Code? Please add any implementations you know of in the comments section below.

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes 1
no 2

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Responder Concept Codes: ImplementationsComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz yes Easyreader - using these semantics is explicit in the proposal
Gregg Vanderheiden no
Charles LaPierre no

7. Potential parts of a page: Prioritization

Do we want to deprioritize Potential parts of a page and add an editor’s note explaining our decision?

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes
no 3

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Responder Potential parts of a page: PrioritizationComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz no
Gregg Vanderheiden no Ah this looks like what I described above about tagging different parts of the page by function.
Charles LaPierre no

8. Potential parts of a page: Implementations

Do you know of any intended implementations of Potential parts of a page? Please add any implementations you know of in the comments section below.

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes 2
no 1

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Responder Potential parts of a page: ImplementationsComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz yes AThena plug in, maybe easyreader
Gregg Vanderheiden yes We would do this - especially for our template pages on GPII.net and http://raisingthefloor.org
Charles LaPierre no

9. Number free: Prioritization

Do we want to deprioritize Number free and add an editor’s note explaining our decision?

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes
no 3

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Responder Number free: Prioritization
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz no
Gregg Vanderheiden no if this is going to be required at any time (e.g. Level a or level aa) then I would deprioritize

I think it is a great idea where it can work but I see absolutely no way to apply this in most cases.

My bank account
a budget
any spreadsheet
any shopping site (expensive is very relative)
any comparison site
(what does 8 watts convert into?)
etc.

Charles LaPierre no

10. Number free: Implementations

Do you know of any intended implementations of Number free? Please add any implementations you know of in the comments section below.

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes 1
no 2

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Responder Number free: ImplementationsComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz yes Easyreader - using these semantics is explicit in the proposal
Gregg Vanderheiden no
Charles LaPierre no

11. Non-literal text and images: Prioritization

Do we want to deprioritize Non-literal text and images and add an editor’s note explaining our decision?

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
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yes
no 3

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Responder Non-literal text and images: PrioritizationComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz no
Gregg Vanderheiden no This is a pretty clear one. I think it has some trouble with determining edge cases but if we use "commonly recognized"

There is a form of it in WCAG 2
3.1.3 Unusual Words: A mechanism is available for identifying specific definitions of words or phrases used in an unusual or restricted way, including idioms and jargon. (Level AAA)

this could be a mechanism for doing this.
Charles LaPierre no

12. Non-literal text and images: Implementations

Do you know of any intended implementations of Non-literal text and images? Please add any implementations you know of in the comments section below.

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
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yes 2
no 1

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Responder Non-literal text and images: ImplementationsComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz yes Easyreader - using these semantics is explicit in the proposal
Gregg Vanderheiden yes See Understanding WCAG 2.0
Charles LaPierre no

13. Explain and feedback: Prioritization

Do we want to deprioritize Explain and feedback and add an editor’s note explaining our decision?

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes
no 3

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Responder Explain and feedback: PrioritizationComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz no
Gregg Vanderheiden no
Charles LaPierre no

14. Explain and feedback: Implementations

Do you know of any intended implementations of Explain and feedback? Please add any implementations you know of in the comments section below.

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yes 1
no 2

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Responder Explain and feedback: ImplementationsComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz yes maybe easyreader and maybe athena plugin
Gregg Vanderheiden no
Charles LaPierre no

15. More Help: Prioritization

Do we want to deprioritize More Help and add an editor’s note explaining our decision?

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes
no 3

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Responder More Help: PrioritizationComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz no
Gregg Vanderheiden no Not sure I understand this one.

I thought it was straightforward -but there is not text in the documents so that makes me wonder

but i think that it could be doable



SIDE COMMENT -
I notice that we start each one of these with REQUIREMENT
but what follows isnt a requirement but a NEED.
Should we change 'requirement' to 'need' on the front of each one.

(excuse CAPS but there is no bold formatting allowed in this field to add emphasis .)
Charles LaPierre no

16. More Help: Implementations

Do you know of any intended implementations of More Help? Please add any implementations you know of in the comments section below.

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yes 1
no 1

(1 response didn't contain an answer to this question)

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Responder More Help: ImplementationsComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz yes implicit in easyreader
I also know of somone in IBM who was interesting in devloping a plugin around it. I am not sure what is happening with that
Gregg Vanderheiden
Charles LaPierre no

17. Potential Features: Prioritization

Do we want to deprioritize Potential Features and add an editor’s note explaining our decision?

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes
no 2

(1 response didn't contain an answer to this question)

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Responder Potential Features: PrioritizationComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz no this should be merged
Gregg Vanderheiden Have no idea what this one means. there is no explanation
Charles LaPierre no

18. Potential Features: Implementations

Do you know of any intended implementations of Potential Features? Please add any implementations you know of in the comments section below.

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes
no 3

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Responder Potential Features: ImplementationsComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz no not sure
Gregg Vanderheiden no
Charles LaPierre no

19. Language type support: Prioritization

Do we want to deprioritize Language type support and add an editor’s note explaining our decision?

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes
no 3

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Responder Language type support: PrioritizationComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz no
Gregg Vanderheiden no This is a good one.
but I would drop the use of legal documents as an example. It may be (and probably is) illegal to have someone rely on a summary and then sign a document where that language is not the language that the user is held to.

so great idea - but not for legal documents (which have to be written to be more understandable in the first place since they are binding as they are written - not in simpler language). Or at least we don't want to have that debate on this item which is a good item.
Charles LaPierre no

20. Language type support: Implementations

Do you know of any intended implementations of Language type support? Please add any implementations you know of in the comments section below.

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes 2
no 1

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Responder Language type support: ImplementationsComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz yes explicit in easyreader
Gregg Vanderheiden yes lflegal.org but not using aria
Charles LaPierre no

21. Logs: Prioritization

Do we want to deprioritize Logs and add an editor’s note explaining our decision?

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes 1
no 2

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Responder Logs: PrioritizationComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz no
Gregg Vanderheiden no interesting idea but needs better name than LOGS. Keeping logs has all sorts of privacy and tracking implications. Also we need to cover all of those before this is ready to view

Some of this looks like progress tracking rather than logs
(here are the steps in the process and here is where you are) which is great but I think of logs as things that are kept.

Maybe "Progress and Place markers"
Charles LaPierre yes I think this may be in jeopardy of being more complicated and could take extra time to get right if we need to have any type of validation of parts needed to be correct.

22. Logs: Implementations

Do you know of any intended implementations of Logs? Please add any implementations you know of in the comments section below.

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes 1
no 2

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Responder Logs: ImplementationsComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz yes I also know of somone in IBM who was devloping a plugin around it. I am not sure what is happening with that
Gregg Vanderheiden no
Charles LaPierre no

23. Reminders and messages: Prioritization

Do we want to deprioritize Reminders and messages and add an editor’s note explaining our decision?

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes
no 3

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Responder Reminders and messages: PrioritizationComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz no It is crucial
Gregg Vanderheiden no Again this is good -- but I don't think we should use "requirement" and "require" for an optional tag.
Charles LaPierre no

24. Reminders and messages: Implementations

Do you know of any intended implementations of Reminders and messages? Please add any implementations you know of in the comments section below.

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes
no 2

(1 response didn't contain an answer to this question)

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Responder Reminders and messages: ImplementationsComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz no
Gregg Vanderheiden
Charles LaPierre no

25. Distractions: Prioritization

Do we want to deprioritize Distractions and add an editor’s note explaining our decision?

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes
no 3

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Responder Distractions: PrioritizationComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz no
Gregg Vanderheiden no Needs better name?
Does anyone actually think what they put in their content is a distraction? Rather than an attraction?

this is important but not sure about name and how we would do this.

WCAG already talks about animations. Are you talking about anything other than animations? if not -- why not call them that? "Animated content" or "animated content that is not the primary purpose of the page? ??
Charles LaPierre no

26. Distractions: Implementations

Do you know of any intended implementations of Distractions? Please add any implementations you know of in the comments section below.

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes
no 2

(1 response didn't contain an answer to this question)

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Responder Distractions: ImplementationsComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz no
Gregg Vanderheiden
Charles LaPierre no

27. New Misc: Prioritization

Do we want to deprioritize New Misc and add an editor’s note explaining our decision?

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes 1
no 2

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Responder New Misc: PrioritizationComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz no i think the terms are out there
Gregg Vanderheiden yes Don't understand and there are no details/

is this really an aria role? Role = misc?
Charles LaPierre no

28. New Misc: Implementations

Do you know of any intended implementations of New Misc? Please add any implementations you know of in the comments section below.

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes
no 2

(1 response didn't contain an answer to this question)

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Responder New Misc: ImplementationsComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz no not sure
Gregg Vanderheiden
Charles LaPierre no

29. Additional WAI-ARIA roles: Prioritization

Do we want to deprioritize Additional WAI-ARIA roles and add an editor’s note explaining our decision?

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
yes 1
no 2

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Responder Additional WAI-ARIA roles: PrioritizationComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz no this takes coordination but should be moved from the specification
Gregg Vanderheiden yes good things here - but until we make it a real role
Charles LaPierre no

30. Additional WAI-ARIA roles: Implementations

Do you know of any intended implementations of Additional WAI-ARIA roles? Please add any implementations you know of in the comments section below.

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ChoiceAll responders
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yes 1
no 1

(1 response didn't contain an answer to this question)

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Responder Additional WAI-ARIA roles: ImplementationsComments
Lisa Seeman-Horwitz yes I extended aria a few years back and made a reader that used them. i am not sure were it is. Maybe cast is using it.
Gregg Vanderheiden
Charles LaPierre no

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The following persons have not answered the questionnaire:

  1. Janina Sajka
  2. Becky Gibson
  3. John Foliot
  4. Matthew Atkinson
  5. Ruoxi Ran
  6. Sharon Snider
  7. Lionel Wolberger
  8. Mike Beganyi
  9. Russell Galvin
  10. Brigitte Thomas
  11. Abhinav Kumar
  12. Vikas Rohatgi
  13. Leandro S. Guedes
  14. Annalu Waller

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