ISSUE-30: How does SPARQL's notion of RDF dataset relate our notion of multiple graphs?

sparql datasets

How does SPARQL's notion of RDF dataset relate our notion of multiple graphs?

State:
CLOSED
Product:
RDF Graphs
Raised by:
Richard Cyganiak
Opened on:
2011-04-13
Description:
RESOLVED: Named Graphs in SPARQL associate IRIs and graphs *but* they do not necessarily "name" graphs in the strict model-theoretic sense. A SPARQL Dataset does not establish graphs as referents of IRIs (relevant to ISSUE-30)
(F2F1 Day2)

http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2012-05-23#resolution_9
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Related notes:

If the RDF working group is going to standardise a quad-based format, how does this fit in with the lack of quads as output of SPARQL's CONSTRUCT verb. CONSTRUCT will not output quads, this has been resolved by the current SPARQL WG, how does this effect the overall concept of "round-tripping RDF and SPARQL" and how will it align to SPARQL in the long run?

Mischa Tuffield, 13 Apr 2011, 10:18:36

[FabGandon]: How does SPARQL's notion of RDF dataset relate our notion of multiple graphs?

14 Apr 2011, 07:48:18

[FabGandon]: cygri proposes "Named Graphs in SPARQL “loosely associate” IRIs and graphs. They do not “name” graphs in the strict model-theoretic sense. A SPARQL Dataset does not establish graphs as referents of IRIs."

14 Apr 2011, 09:06:20

[FabGandon]: Proposed WG position : Named Graphs in SPARQL associate IRIs and graphs *but* they do not necessarily “name” graphs in the strict model-theoretic sense. A SPARQL Dataset does not establish graphs as referents of IRIs.

14 Apr 2011, 09:10:04

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