None.
<sandro> Guest: Todd Vincent
<sandro> Scribe: Bennett
(Scribe set to Daniel Bennett)
12:53:38 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-egov-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-egov-irc ←
12:53:47 <sandro> zakim, this wil be egov
Sandro Hawke: zakim, this wil be egov ←
12:53:47 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this wil be egov', sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'this wil be egov', sandro ←
12:53:54 <sandro> zakim, this will be egov
Sandro Hawke: zakim, this will be egov ←
12:53:54 <Zakim> ok, sandro; I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, sandro; I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes ←
12:58:28 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has now started ←
12:58:35 <Zakim> + +1.202.651.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.651.aaaa ←
12:59:14 <Daniel_Bennett> aaaa is Daniel Bennett
aaaa is Daniel Bennett ←
12:59:17 <Zakim> +johnlsheridan
Zakim IRC Bot: +johnlsheridan ←
13:00:35 <Zakim> + +1.202.441.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.441.aabb ←
13:00:39 <Daniel_Bennett> note Daniel is in noisy coffee house. I will stay on mute and type. (chance I may need to leave at 10am)
note Daniel is in noisy coffee house. I will stay on mute and type. (chance I may need to leave at 10am) ←
13:00:54 <Zakim> + +1.410.992.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.410.992.aacc ←
13:01:05 <Daniel_Bennett> hi Joe
hi Joe ←
13:01:12 <Daniel_Bennett> remind Joe to go on IRC
remind Joe to go on IRC ←
13:01:46 <Daniel_Bennett> and that way he can send links
and that way he can send links ←
13:02:18 <Daniel_Bennett> thanks John
thanks John ←
13:02:21 <Zakim> + +1.303.748.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.303.748.aadd ←
13:02:43 <Zakim> +Brand
Zakim IRC Bot: +Brand ←
13:04:02 <Zakim> - +1.303.748.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.303.748.aadd ←
13:04:08 <Zakim> + +1.859.408.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.859.408.aaee ←
13:04:09 <Zakim> +Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←
13:04:17 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking? ←
13:04:33 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: +1.410.992.aacc (8%), +1.859.408.aaee (83%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: +1.410.992.aacc (8%), +1.859.408.aaee (83%) ←
13:04:38 <Zakim> -Brand
Zakim IRC Bot: -Brand ←
13:04:39 <sandro> zakim, drop aaee
Sandro Hawke: zakim, drop aaee ←
13:04:40 <Zakim> + +1.303.748.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.303.748.aaff ←
13:04:40 <Zakim> +1.859.408.aaee is being disconnected
Zakim IRC Bot: +1.859.408.aaee is being disconnected ←
13:04:41 <Zakim> - +1.859.408.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.859.408.aaee ←
13:05:12 <Zakim> +Brand
Zakim IRC Bot: +Brand ←
13:05:21 <sandro> Hey +1-859-408 person -- you were causing LOUD static on the line.
Sandro Hawke: Hey +1-859-408 person -- you were causing LOUD static on the line. ←
13:05:23 <Daniel_Bennett> i miss jose's hold music
i miss jose's hold music ←
13:06:01 <Zakim> +kevin
Zakim IRC Bot: +kevin ←
13:06:30 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:06:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.202.651.aaaa, johnlsheridan (muted), +1.202.441.aabb, +1.410.992.aacc, Sandro, +1.303.748.aaff (muted), Brand, kevin
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.202.651.aaaa, johnlsheridan (muted), +1.202.441.aabb, +1.410.992.aacc, Sandro, +1.303.748.aaff (muted), Brand, kevin ←
13:06:45 <Zakim> + +1.859.408.aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.859.408.aagg ←
13:06:51 <Daniel_Bennett> Daniel says hi to Kevin
Daniel says hi to Kevin ←
13:07:05 <Daniel_Bennett> 651 is daniel
651 is daniel ←
13:07:11 <Daniel_Bennett> that's me
that's me ←
13:07:14 <Daniel_Bennett> on mute
on mute ←
13:07:24 <sandro> zakim, aaaa is Daniel_Bennett
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aaaa is Daniel_Bennett ←
13:07:24 <Zakim> +Daniel_Bennett; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Daniel_Bennett; got it ←
13:07:27 <Daniel_Bennett> I did at beginning
I did at beginning ←
13:07:48 <sandro> zakim, aabb is George_Thomas
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aabb is George_Thomas ←
13:07:48 <Zakim> +George_Thomas; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +George_Thomas; got it ←
13:08:15 <sandro> zakim, aacc is Joe_Carmel
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aacc is Joe_Carmel ←
13:08:15 <Zakim> +Joe_Carmel; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Joe_Carmel; got it ←
13:08:19 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:08:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan (muted), George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, +1.303.748.aaff (muted), Brand, kevin, +1.859.408.aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan (muted), George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, +1.303.748.aaff (muted), Brand, kevin, +1.859.408.aagg ←
13:08:40 <sandro> zakim, aaff is Brian_Gryth
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aaff is Brian_Gryth ←
13:08:40 <Zakim> +Brian_Gryth; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Brian_Gryth; got it ←
13:08:57 <sandro> zakim, aagg is Todd_Vincent
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aagg is Todd_Vincent ←
13:08:57 <Zakim> +Todd_Vincent; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Todd_Vincent; got it ←
13:09:05 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:09:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan (muted), George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth (muted), Brand, kevin, Todd_Vincent
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan (muted), George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth (muted), Brand, kevin, Todd_Vincent ←
13:09:13 <Daniel_Bennett> Sandro: asking for phone participants
Sandro Hawke: asking for phone participants ←
13:09:25 <Daniel_Bennett> Sandro: reading out roll
Sandro Hawke: reading out roll ←
13:09:30 <johnlsheridan> unmute me
John Sheridan: unmute me ←
13:09:37 <sandro> zakim, unmute johnlsheridan
Sandro Hawke: zakim, unmute johnlsheridan ←
13:09:37 <Zakim> johnlsheridan should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: johnlsheridan should no longer be muted ←
13:10:13 <Daniel_Bennett> John: first thing on the agenda is the 14th of Nov. any scribe volunteers?
John Sheridan: first thing on the agenda is the 14th of Nov. any scribe volunteers? ←
13:10:27 <Daniel_Bennett> John: picks himself... graciously
John Sheridan: picks himself... graciously ←
13:10:49 <Daniel_Bennett> John: that is the 14th of Oct
John Sheridan: that is the 14th of Oct ←
13:11:29 <sandro> action-1?
13:11:29 <trackbot> ACTION-1 -- Ari Schwartz to open a new section in the wiki for use cases for his TF -- due 2008-07-02 -- CLOSED
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-1 -- Ari Schwartz to open a new section in the wiki for use cases for his TF -- due 2008-07-02 -- CLOSED ←
13:11:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/1
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/1 ←
13:11:50 <Daniel_Bennett> John: review of open items. please post link to IRC
John Sheridan: review of open items. please post link to IRC ←
13:11:53 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/open
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/open ←
13:12:54 <Daniel_Bennett> John: Action 3 and 14 are old. 70 has moved on, first with Keven.
John Sheridan: ACTION-3 and 14 are old. 70 has moved on, first with Keven. ←
13:13:25 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: original white paper, has been met/superceded by Data.gov response
Kevin Novak: original white paper, has been met/superceded by Data.gov response ←
13:13:43 <sandro> close action-70
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-70 ←
13:13:43 <trackbot> ACTION-70 draft white paper closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-70 draft white paper closed ←
13:13:47 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: we have moved on from original
Kevin Novak: we have moved on from original ←
13:13:54 <Daniel_Bennett> John: close 70
John Sheridan: close 70 ←
13:14:34 <Daniel_Bennett> John: leave 14 open and check on Action 3
John Sheridan: leave 14 open and check on ACTION-3 ←
13:14:40 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking? ←
13:14:50 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: johnlsheridan (4%), Joe_Carmel (9%), kevin (81%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: johnlsheridan (4%), Joe_Carmel (9%), kevin (81%) ←
13:14:57 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: leave Action 3 open. still looking into partnership/etc
Kevin Novak: leave ACTION-3 open. still looking into partnership/etc ←
13:15:37 <Daniel_Bennett> John: Action 71 was Jose. There is a working draft on HTML5 and RDFa?
John Sheridan: ACTION-71 was Jose. There is a working draft on HTML5 and RDFa? ←
13:15:58 <Daniel_Bennett> Sandro: Doesn't know
Sandro Hawke: Doesn't know ←
13:16:17 <Daniel_Bennett> Daniel: is working on it
Daniel Bennett: is working on it ←
13:16:45 <sandro> close action-84
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-84 ←
13:16:45 <trackbot> ACTION-84 Support and reach out to other AC reps to encourage support of eGov Charter closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-84 Support and reach out to other AC reps to encourage support of eGov Charter closed ←
13:16:46 <Daniel_Bennett> Daniel: talked with Kevin and will have more next meeting
Daniel Bennett: talked with Kevin and will have more next meeting ←
13:16:54 <Daniel_Bennett> John: closing 84
John Sheridan: closing 84 ←
13:17:24 <Daniel_Bennett> John: Action 89 is still on
John Sheridan: ACTION-89 is still on ←
13:17:59 <Daniel_Bennett> John: question about attending by Kevin suggested by Sharron
John Sheridan: question about attending by Kevin suggested by Sharron ←
13:18:29 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: about attending TPAC
Kevin Novak: about attending TPAC ←
13:18:41 <Zakim> + +1.404.822.aahh
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.404.822.aahh ←
13:18:41 <Daniel_Bennett> so where does it stand?
so where does it stand? ←
13:19:05 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: still on me
Kevin Novak: still on me ←
13:19:31 <Daniel_Bennett> John: Action 92. reach out to agencies
John Sheridan: ACTION-92. reach out to agencies ←
13:19:40 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: yes, leave it open
Kevin Novak: yes, leave it open ←
13:19:57 <Daniel_Bennett> John: Action 93 on Sandro
John Sheridan: ACTION-93 on Sandro ←
13:20:20 <Daniel_Bennett> Sandro: no responses so close Action 93
Sandro Hawke: no responses so close ACTION-93 ←
13:20:45 <Daniel_Bennett> John: leave it open and now push it as item for others to do
John Sheridan: leave it open and now push it as item for others to do ←
13:20:52 <sandro> revise action as: try to get people to use it...
Sandro Hawke: revise action as: try to get people to use it... ←
13:20:56 <Daniel_Bennett> John: let's move on to Charter review
John Sheridan: let's move on to Charter review ←
13:21:31 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2009/06/eGov/ig-charter
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/2009/06/eGov/ig-charter ←
13:22:01 <Daniel_Bennett> Sandro: can say that it looks good but no official
Sandro Hawke: can say that it looks good but no official ←
13:22:12 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: has heard good feedback
Kevin Novak: has heard good feedback ←
13:22:31 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: possibility of getting additional assistance
Kevin Novak: possibility of getting additional assistance ←
13:22:37 <Zakim> -Todd_Vincent
Zakim IRC Bot: -Todd_Vincent ←
13:22:48 <Zakim> +??P30
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P30 ←
13:22:53 <Daniel_Bennett> Sandro: we got healthy 15 or so comments on Charter
Sandro Hawke: we got healthy 15 or so comments on Charter ←
13:22:55 <josema> zakim, ??P30 is me
José Alonso: zakim, ??P30 is me ←
13:22:55 <Zakim> +josema; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +josema; got it ←
13:23:08 <Daniel_Bennett> John: next steps. internal review in w3c
John Sheridan: next steps. internal review in w3c ←
13:23:21 <Daniel_Bennett> Sandro: next week is now set for review
Sandro Hawke: next week is now set for review ←
13:23:35 <josema> agenda?
José Alonso: agenda? ←
13:23:42 <Daniel_Bennett> John: any questions on the charter review?
John Sheridan: any questions on the charter review? ←
13:23:45 <Daniel_Bennett> silence
silence ←
13:23:50 <Daniel_Bennett> more silence
more silence ←
13:23:54 <sandro> sandro has changed the topic to: next IG call: Sep 30, AGENDA: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2009Sep/0028.html
Sandro Hawke: sandro has changed the topic to: next IG call: Sep 30, AGENDA: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2009Sep/0028.html ←
13:24:06 <josema> zakim, who's here?
José Alonso: zakim, who's here? ←
13:24:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth (muted), Brand, kevin, +1.404.822.aahh, josema
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth (muted), Brand, kevin, +1.404.822.aahh, josema ←
13:24:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see josema, joec, Zakim, RRSAgent, Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, hughb, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see josema, joec, Zakim, RRSAgent, Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, hughb, sandro, trackbot ←
13:24:12 <Daniel_Bennett> John: lets move on to next agenda. where do we go on from here.
John Sheridan: lets move on to next agenda. where do we go on from here. ←
13:24:29 <sandro> Topic: Where to go from here?
13:24:31 <josema> regrets+ rachel
José Alonso: regrets+ rachel ←
13:24:43 <Daniel_Bennett> John: in particular within scope of charter
John Sheridan: in particular within scope of charter ←
13:25:24 <Daniel_Bennett> John: what would make the participants happy doing?
John Sheridan: what would make the participants happy doing? ←
13:25:45 <Daniel_Bennett> Joe: throws something out. at face to face... we talked about best practices
Joe Carmel: throws something out. at face to face... we talked about best practices ←
13:26:48 <Daniel_Bennett> Daniel: call for use cases. compiling them. analysis of uses cases. value add on what gov does.
Daniel Bennett: call for use cases. compiling them. analysis of uses cases. value add on what gov does. ←
13:27:04 <Daniel_Bennett> Joe: about cataloging the data
Joe Carmel: about cataloging the data ←
13:27:27 <Daniel_Bennett> Joe: what is the data that govs actually have and what can be done
Joe Carmel: what is the data that govs actually have and what can be done ←
13:27:54 <Daniel_Bennett> Joe: those are the two things that interest me.
Joe Carmel: those are the two things that interest me. ←
13:28:34 <Daniel_Bennett> John: most efforts into government data piece. esp. linked data
John Sheridan: most efforts into government data piece. esp. linked data ←
13:28:57 <Daniel_Bennett> Daniel: can we go round robin asking folks on the call?
Daniel Bennett: can we go round robin asking folks on the call? ←
13:29:17 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:29:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth (muted), Brand, kevin, +1.404.822.aahh, josema
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth (muted), Brand, kevin, +1.404.822.aahh, josema ←
13:29:46 <Daniel_Bennett> thanks
thanks ←
13:29:57 <Daniel_Bennett> on mute
on mute ←
13:29:59 <Zakim> +AdamHarvey
Zakim IRC Bot: +AdamHarvey ←
13:30:10 <Daniel_Bennett> so cant talk
so cant talk ←
13:30:13 <Daniel_Bennett> ah
ah ←
13:30:15 <AdamHarvey> Sorry I'm late!
Adam Harvey: Sorry I'm late! ←
13:30:40 <Daniel_Bennett> I am looking to see finding use cases and comparing to best practices
I am looking to see finding use cases and comparing to best practices ←
13:30:54 <Daniel_Bennett> and evaluating according to w3c standards
and evaluating according to w3c standards ←
13:31:21 <sandro> Kevin: EO group includes linked data, but also all the Web 1.0 stuff, including accessibility, etc.
Kevin Novak: EO group includes linked data, but also all the Web 1.0 stuff, including accessibility, etc. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
13:31:23 <Daniel_Bennett> and also cataloging use cases with analysis/annotation
and also cataloging use cases with analysis/annotation ←
13:31:31 <Daniel_Bennett> (reminder on mute)
(reminder on mute) ←
13:32:11 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking? ←
13:32:21 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Daniel_Bennett (35%), johnlsheridan (4%), Brand (90%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Daniel_Bennett (35%), johnlsheridan (4%), Brand (90%) ←
13:32:38 <Daniel_Bennett> Brand: how we can get more involved in data.gov
Brand Niemann: how we can get more involved in data.gov ←
13:32:54 <Daniel_Bennett> Brand: especially in approaching Vivek Kundra
Brand Niemann: especially in approaching Vivek Kundra ←
13:33:13 <Daniel_Bennett> Brand: data.gov effort looking to RDFa
Brand Niemann: data.gov effort looking to RDFa ←
13:34:10 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: reached out and the feedback was that a govt only group. only employees. I stated we are ready to help here at W3C egov.
Kevin Novak: reached out and the feedback was that a govt only group. only employees. I stated we are ready to help here at W3C egov. ←
13:34:13 <johnlsheridan> doesn't the memo say gov is participative?
John Sheridan: doesn't the memo say gov is participative? ←
13:35:52 <Daniel_Bennett> Brand: still closed
Brand Niemann: still closed ←
13:36:23 <Daniel_Bennett> Brand: hoping this group can be part. data.gov looks like RDFa positive.
Brand Niemann: hoping this group can be part. data.gov looks like RDFa positive. ←
13:36:24 <josema> I believe George referred to this doc with his comments: http://george.thomas.name/omb/HHS_Comments_Data.gov_Conops.doc
José Alonso: I believe George referred to this doc with his comments: http://george.thomas.name/omb/HHS_Comments_Data.gov_Conops.doc ←
13:37:29 <AdamHarvey> Thanks, Jose...
Adam Harvey: Thanks, Jose... ←
13:38:13 <sandro> (um, who is speaking?)
Sandro Hawke: (um, who is speaking?) ←
13:38:25 <johnlsheridan> George
John Sheridan: George ←
13:38:31 <sandro> (thanks)
Sandro Hawke: (thanks) ←
13:38:49 <Daniel_Bennett> George: speaking to data.gov
George Thomas: speaking to data.gov ←
13:39:11 <Daniel_Bennett> George: stated the URL for his comments
George Thomas: stated the URL for his comments ←
13:39:42 <Daniel_Bennett> (who is speaking? please announce yourself before speaking. thanks)
(who is speaking? please announce yourself before speaking. thanks) ←
13:40:01 <johnlsheridan> currently it is brand
John Sheridan: currently it is brand ←
13:40:23 <Daniel_Bennett> Brand: Ontology and data models for government. Brand is leading part of the effort.
Brand Niemann: Ontology and data models for government. Brand is leading part of the effort. ←
13:40:58 <Daniel_Bennett> Brand: mentions the conferences next week
Brand Niemann: mentions the conferences next week ←
13:41:22 <AdamHarvey> Speak up Daniel...
Adam Harvey: Speak up Daniel... ←
13:41:47 <sandro> Daniel: I'll be speaking at the XBRL+W3C conference next week. If anyone is interested go to ....
Daniel Bennett: I'll be speaking at the XBRL+W3C conference next week. If anyone is interested go to .... [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
13:42:03 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2009/03/xbrl/cfp.html
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/2009/03/xbrl/cfp.html ←
13:42:20 <Daniel_Bennett> yes, thanks sandro
yes, thanks sandro ←
13:42:56 <Daniel_Bennett> and Diane Mueller
and Diane Mueller ←
13:43:22 <josema> zakim, who's here?
José Alonso: zakim, who's here? ←
13:43:22 <Zakim> On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan (muted), George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth (muted), Brand, kevin, +1.404.822.aahh, josema, AdamHarvey
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan (muted), George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth (muted), Brand, kevin, +1.404.822.aahh, josema, AdamHarvey ←
13:43:23 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: several folks will be there
Kevin Novak: several folks will be there ←
13:43:26 <Zakim> On IRC I see tb, AdamHarvey, josema, joec, Zakim, RRSAgent, Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, hughb, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see tb, AdamHarvey, josema, joec, Zakim, RRSAgent, Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, hughb, sandro, trackbot ←
13:43:29 <Daniel_Bennett> silence
silence ←
13:43:34 <josema> john, if you are speaking, you are muted!
José Alonso: john, if you are speaking, you are muted! ←
13:44:14 <Daniel_Bennett> he is on mute again
he is on mute again ←
13:44:18 <Daniel_Bennett> take him off
take him off ←
13:44:21 <johnlsheridan> can you hear me
John Sheridan: can you hear me ←
13:44:24 <josema> ack jo
José Alonso: ack jo ←
13:44:30 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:44:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan (muted), George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth (muted), Brand, kevin, +1.404.822.aahh, josema, AdamHarvey
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan (muted), George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth (muted), Brand, kevin, +1.404.822.aahh, josema, AdamHarvey ←
13:44:33 <johnlsheridan> I'll dial back in
John Sheridan: I'll dial back in ←
13:44:35 <Daniel_Bennett> it says he is muted
it says he is muted ←
13:44:35 <josema> zakim, unmute johnlsheridan
José Alonso: zakim, unmute johnlsheridan ←
13:44:35 <Zakim> johnlsheridan should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: johnlsheridan should no longer be muted ←
13:45:15 <Zakim> + +49.178.404.aaii
Zakim IRC Bot: + +49.178.404.aaii ←
13:45:40 <Daniel_Bennett> John: asking around about participants interest.
John Sheridan: asking around about participants interest. ←
13:46:01 <tb> Thomas bandholtz is calling from Germany
Thomas Bandholtz: Thomas bandholtz is calling from Germany ←
13:46:21 <sandro> zakim, aaii is Thomas_Bandholtz
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aaii is Thomas_Bandholtz ←
13:46:21 <Daniel_Bennett> Adam: already on ETF. wants to help translate techspeak especially for local govts
Adam Harvey: already on ETF. wants to help translate techspeak especially for local govts ←
13:46:23 <Zakim> +Thomas_Bandholtz; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Thomas_Bandholtz; got it ←
13:46:45 <Daniel_Bennett> John: this is consistent with our efforts
John Sheridan: this is consistent with our efforts ←
13:46:46 <Zakim> +??P35
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P35 ←
13:49:05 <Daniel_Bennett> Jose: working on a couple of projects. spending most of time on projects that open gov data involved.
José Alonso: working on a couple of projects. spending most of time on projects that open gov data involved. ←
13:50:03 <Zakim> + +1.202.270.aajj
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.270.aajj ←
13:50:37 <Daniel_Bennett> Jose: we still need to put out W3Cstandards. dealing with proprietary formats.
José Alonso: we still need to put out W3Cstandards. dealing with proprietary formats. ←
13:51:54 <Daniel_Bennett> Jose: it is complicating the point of open gov data
José Alonso: it is complicating the point of open gov data ←
13:51:54 <Daniel_Bennett> Joe: are you chartered to look at cataloging gov looking at standards.
Joe Carmel: are you chartered to look at cataloging gov looking at standards. ←
13:51:57 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: a lot of agencies dealing with legacy data.
Kevin Novak: a lot of agencies dealing with legacy data. ←
13:51:59 <Daniel_Bennett> Kevin: how can we aid agencies with this problem set.
Kevin Novak: how can we aid agencies with this problem set. ←
13:52:01 <Daniel_Bennett> we should address those that need 100% solutions for data to be useful vs. those that can just move on with new data.
we should address those that need 100% solutions for data to be useful vs. those that can just move on with new data. ←
13:52:16 <Daniel_Bennett> missed. who is speaking
missed. who is speaking ←
13:52:30 <josema> we are building a number of transformers, but it's hard and most are adhoc due to how legacy data was archived :(
José Alonso: we are building a number of transformers, but it's hard and most are adhoc due to how legacy data was archived :( ←
13:53:05 <Daniel_Bennett> Brian: Local govt need esp. help on this. this is my interest with outreach to locals.
Brian Gryth: Local govt need esp. help on this. this is my interest with outreach to locals. ←
13:54:06 <Daniel_Bennett> John: we have similar issue. my experience does not hire those folks
John Sheridan: we have similar issue. my experience does not hire those folks ←
13:55:56 <Daniel_Bennett> Brian: no money for this work
Brian Gryth: no money for this work ←
13:58:19 <Daniel_Bennett> Joe: talking about just having raw data. and then allow others to overlay documentation.
Joe Carmel: talking about just having raw data. and then allow others to overlay documentation. ←
13:58:42 <Daniel_Bennett> Brian: lets at least catalog.
Brian Gryth: lets at least catalog. ←
13:59:28 <Daniel_Bennett> how about open sourcing the conversion of gov docs. like recaptcha
how about open sourcing the conversion of gov docs. like recaptcha ←
13:59:30 <Daniel_Bennett> ?
? ←
14:00:18 <Daniel_Bennett> Joe: it is possible to do PDF things like include embedded xml and named locations.
Joe Carmel: it is possible to do PDF things like include embedded xml and named locations. ←
14:00:38 <Zakim> -Brand
Zakim IRC Bot: -Brand ←
14:00:49 <Daniel_Bennett> Daniel: that is not standard practice and does not apply to legacy docs. and adobe looking to Mars Project.
Daniel Bennett: that is not standard practice and does not apply to legacy docs. and adobe looking to Mars Project. ←
14:01:49 <Daniel_Bennett> Brian: resources lack and IT lack is holding folks back.
Brian Gryth: resources lack and IT lack is holding folks back. ←
14:02:27 <Daniel_Bennett> Brian: human speak is better than geek speak at getting gov folks to see importance of good data practices
Brian Gryth: human speak is better than geek speak at getting gov folks to see importance of good data practices ←
14:03:04 <Daniel_Bennett> John: is there anyone more to speak?
John Sheridan: is there anyone more to speak? ←
14:05:13 <Daniel_Bennett> ThomasB: Inspire project
Thomas Bandholtz: Inspire project ←
14:05:29 <Daniel_Bennett> (missed part due to phone and hard to hear)
(missed part due to phone and hard to hear) ←
14:05:56 <Daniel_Bennett> John: i am on the Inspire project
John Sheridan: i am on the Inspire project ←
14:06:20 <Daniel_Bennett> John: looking to this for implementation.
John Sheridan: looking to this for implementation. ←
14:06:24 <sandro> http://inspire.jrc.ec.europa.eu/ Inspire, Spacial Data Infrastructure
Sandro Hawke: http://inspire.jrc.ec.europa.eu/ Inspire, Spacial Data Infrastructure ←
14:06:55 <johnlsheridan> it's all very top down
John Sheridan: it's all very top down ←
14:07:25 <Daniel_Bennett> ThomasB: project of mashups with Google maps ...
Thomas Bandholtz: project of mashups with Google maps ... ←
14:09:16 <Zakim> -kevin
Zakim IRC Bot: -kevin ←
14:09:22 <Daniel_Bennett> ThomasB: we are publishing more
Thomas Bandholtz: we are publishing more ←
14:09:45 <Daniel_Bennett> ThomasB: from outside of Inspire. see how it can be linked up.
Thomas Bandholtz: from outside of Inspire. see how it can be linked up. ←
14:10:14 <Daniel_Bennett> John: some of the problems and issues related to the law versus what is possible.
John Sheridan: some of the problems and issues related to the law versus what is possible. ←
14:10:38 <Daniel_Bennett> John: last call for participants.
John Sheridan: last call for participants. ←
14:10:41 <josema> zakim, who's here?
José Alonso: zakim, who's here? ←
14:10:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth, +1.404.822.aahh, josema, AdamHarvey, Thomas_Bandholtz, ??P35, +1.202.270.aajj
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Sandro, Brian_Gryth, +1.404.822.aahh, josema, AdamHarvey, Thomas_Bandholtz, ??P35, +1.202.270.aajj ←
14:10:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see Vagner, tb, AdamHarvey, josema, joec, Zakim, RRSAgent, Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, hughb, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Vagner, tb, AdamHarvey, josema, joec, Zakim, RRSAgent, Daniel_Bennett, johnlsheridan, hughb, sandro, trackbot ←
14:10:54 <Daniel_Bennett> Todd: has been lurking this group.
Todd Vincent: has been lurking this group. ←
14:11:01 <josema> zakim, aajj is probably Todd_Vincent
José Alonso: zakim, aajj is probably Todd_Vincent ←
14:11:01 <Zakim> +Todd_Vincent; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Todd_Vincent; got it ←
14:11:02 <Daniel_Bennett> Todd: interested in web standards.
Todd Vincent: interested in web standards. ←
14:11:25 <Daniel_Bennett> Sandro: personal interest. help provide with tech stuff.
Sandro Hawke: personal interest. help provide with tech stuff. ←
14:11:31 <johnlsheridan> http://blogs.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/digitalengagement/post/2009/09/30/Calling-Open-Data-Developers-We-need-your-help.aspx
John Sheridan: http://blogs.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/digitalengagement/post/2009/09/30/Calling-Open-Data-Developers-We-need-your-help.aspx ←
14:12:08 <Daniel_Bennett> John: on issue of linked data.. soft launch of data.gov like service
John Sheridan: on issue of linked data.. soft launch of data.gov like service ←
14:12:20 <sandro> johnlsheridan: We're doing the VERY SOFT launch of the UK equiv of data.gov today. Preview access on request.
John Sheridan: We're doing the VERY SOFT launch of the UK equiv of data.gov today. Preview access on request. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:12:24 <Daniel_Bennett> John: ask for log in to see
John Sheridan: ask for log in to see ←
14:12:51 <Daniel_Bennett> John: if you go to link then go to google group
John Sheridan: if you go to link then go to google group ←
14:12:51 <AdamHarvey> http://groups.google.com/group/uk-government-data-developers/
Adam Harvey: http://groups.google.com/group/uk-government-data-developers/ ←
14:13:52 <josema> zakim, ??P35 is probably vagner
José Alonso: zakim, ??P35 is probably vagner ←
14:13:52 <Zakim> +vagner; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +vagner; got it ←
14:14:54 <Daniel_Bennett> Vagner: we are developing new stuff for open gov.
Vagner Diniz: we are developing new stuff for open gov. ←
14:15:13 <Daniel_Bennett> can you post links Vagner?
can you post links Vagner? ←
14:16:37 <Zakim> -Todd_Vincent
Zakim IRC Bot: -Todd_Vincent ←
14:17:40 <josema> topic: Legislation and Citations
14:17:40 <joec> http://legislink.org/us
Joe Carmel: http://legislink.org/us ←
14:17:40 <Zakim> -George_Thomas
Zakim IRC Bot: -George_Thomas ←
14:18:00 <johnlsheridan> People are already building stuff around our legislation API, eg: http://github.com/robmckinnon/legislation-uk
John Sheridan: People are already building stuff around our legislation API, eg: http://github.com/robmckinnon/legislation-uk ←
14:18:34 <johnlsheridan> the UK legislation API is at www.legislation.gov.uk - and we're surfacing some RDF too, with more to come.
John Sheridan: the UK legislation API is at www.legislation.gov.uk - and we're surfacing some RDF too, with more to come. ←
14:19:27 <Vagner> link to an XML open data project in Brazil: http://projeto.lexml.gov.br/documentacao/resumo-em-ingles
Vagner Diniz: link to an XML open data project in Brazil: http://projeto.lexml.gov.br/documentacao/resumo-em-ingles ←
14:19:32 <AdamHarvey> I just got pulled into a meeting,... have to leave.
Adam Harvey: I just got pulled into a meeting,... have to leave. ←
14:19:38 <Zakim> -AdamHarvey
Zakim IRC Bot: -AdamHarvey ←
14:20:20 <Daniel_Bennett> Joe: discussing a method of providing links to gov docs including sub/anchored links
Joe Carmel: discussing a method of providing links to gov docs including sub/anchored links ←
14:20:44 <Daniel_Bennett> Joe: need to help govt w/ overlay
Joe Carmel: need to help govt w/ overlay ←
14:21:35 <Daniel_Bennett> Daniel says that having open data, allows overlays like legislink independent of gov. does not keep gov from doing anything.
Daniel says that having open data, allows overlays like legislink independent of gov. does not keep gov from doing anything. ←
14:22:27 <Daniel_Bennett> is a value add that can help influence gov. as opposed to current practice of bad data that private firms fix/normalize and then provide expensive access
is a value add that can help influence gov. as opposed to current practice of bad data that private firms fix/normalize and then provide expensive access ←
14:28:08 <Zakim> -Daniel_Bennett
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Daniel_Bennett ←
14:29:21 <josema> rrsagent, pointer?
José Alonso: rrsagent, pointer? ←
14:29:21 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-egov-irc#T14-29-21
RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-egov-irc#T14-29-21 ←
14:30:46 <josema> rrsagent, draft minutes
José Alonso: rrsagent, draft minutes ←
14:30:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-egov-minutes.html josema
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-egov-minutes.html josema ←
14:33:33 <josema> [scribe disconnected]
José Alonso: [scribe disconnected] ←
14:33:38 <josema> rrsagent, draft minutes
José Alonso: rrsagent, draft minutes ←
14:33:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-egov-minutes.html josema
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-egov-minutes.html josema ←
14:36:57 <josema> [ADJOURNED]
José Alonso: [ADJOURNED] ←
14:37:27 <Zakim> - +1.404.822.aahh
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.404.822.aahh ←
14:37:29 <Zakim> -Brian_Gryth
Zakim IRC Bot: -Brian_Gryth ←
14:37:30 <Zakim> -josema
Zakim IRC Bot: -josema ←
14:37:33 <Zakim> -johnlsheridan
Zakim IRC Bot: -johnlsheridan ←
14:37:36 <Zakim> -vagner
Zakim IRC Bot: -vagner ←
14:37:37 <Zakim> -Joe_Carmel
Zakim IRC Bot: -Joe_Carmel ←
14:37:38 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
14:37:40 <Zakim> -Thomas_Bandholtz
Zakim IRC Bot: -Thomas_Bandholtz ←
14:37:41 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended ←
14:37:42 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.202.651.aaaa, johnlsheridan, +1.202.441.aabb, +1.410.992.aacc, +1.303.748.aadd, Brand, +1.859.408.aaee, Sandro, +1.303.748.aaff, kevin, +1.859.408.aagg,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +1.202.651.aaaa, johnlsheridan, +1.202.441.aabb, +1.410.992.aacc, +1.303.748.aadd, Brand, +1.859.408.aaee, Sandro, +1.303.748.aaff, kevin, +1.859.408.aagg, ←
14:37:45 <Zakim> ... Daniel_Bennett, George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Brian_Gryth, Todd_Vincent, +1.404.822.aahh, josema, AdamHarvey, +49.178.404.aaii, Thomas_Bandholtz, +1.202.270.aajj, Todd_Vincent?,
Zakim IRC Bot: ... Daniel_Bennett, George_Thomas, Joe_Carmel, Brian_Gryth, Todd_Vincent, +1.404.822.aahh, josema, AdamHarvey, +49.178.404.aaii, Thomas_Bandholtz, +1.202.270.aajj, Todd_Vincent?, ←
14:37:48 <Zakim> ... vagner?
Zakim IRC Bot: ... vagner? ←
14:37:55 <joec> thanks everyone
Joe Carmel: thanks everyone ←
14:40:30 <sandro> RRSAgent, make record public
Sandro Hawke: RRSAgent, make record public ←
14:47:12 <joec> still here daniel?
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Joe Carmel: still here daniel? ←
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