W3C

– DRAFT –
WAI-Adapt Teleconference

10 Dec 2024

Attendees

Present
janina, Lionel_Wolberger, matatk, Russell
Regrets
Abhinav, Analu
Chair
Lionel_Wolberger
Scribe
Lionel_Wolberger, janina

Meeting minutes

Introduction, logistics, updates as needed

Lionel_Wolberger: Our next call on the 17th will be the last of 2024

Lionel_Wolberger: We resume 7 January

janina: Notes F2F is still on for May 5-6

matatk: I have room booked; will followup with geo data, e.g. hotels

matatk: Don't expect a problem

matatk: Hotels will be cheaper near Samsung, it's near LHR, and accessible to London

Lionel_Wolberger: We intend to use the WBS form, just as we do at TPAC, to check if any potential attendees need particular accommodations

Email from COGA

w3c/coga#329

<gb> Issue 329 Broken links to w3c/personalization-semantics (by shawnthompson)

matatk: Explainers do not go TR

matatk: Correct approach is to file a github issue

Lionel_Wolberger: We do want good links from their docs

matatk: Problem is there isn't a single doc any longer.

matatk: In some cases we don't yet know what they should link to

janina: They're also behind on Content Usable v 2

matatk: Maybe best to wait; for now point to overall Adapt Explainer

matatk: Will check TR for any errata we need to introduce

Well Known Destinations

Symbols (Issue 240)

Russell: Have been designing fonts ...

Russell: A few symbols from 3 different AAC

Russell: Have been working on a written explanation

Russell: Believe proposers of unicode are seeing AAC as ligatures

Russell: ligatures different from combining chars

Russell: each symbol having one or more ligatures

Russell: unicode has multiple mechanisms for creating ligatures

Russell: e.g. Old English "ash" symbole

Russell: process: attach to a base symbol and add another symbol

Russell: 0-width joiners

Russell: -- outlines the process for display --

Russell: Would indeed work

Russell: There are long term issues

Russell: Notes unicode also has a shaping engine for langs with complex character graphics

Russell: e.g. Arabic

<Zakim> matatk, you wanted to ask about pigeon holes

matatk: expresses appreciation for all Russell's work on this!

matatk: Seems no code written and no standards updated to render in this way? Yes?

matatk: understand the ligature maps from individual char rendering many to one

Lionel_Wolberger: Ensuring these concepts get into the minutes, review:

Russell: It's robust and well tested because of emojis

Russell: also looked at multiple ruby

Russell: Zero Width Joiner (ZWJ) sequences can specify different glyphs, or emojis, and the rendering engine will combine them if a combination is known
… Example 1: Family (Woman, Woman, Girl, Boy)

Russell: Believe it's OK for ruby
… with ZWJ will render as a single emoji, 👩‍👩‍👧‍👦
… (separate symbols): 👩, 👩, 👧, 👦
… Rendering: 👩‍👩‍👧‍👦
… ligature is another way to join glyphs
… the shaping engine is the technology that joins them

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 240 (Tue Dec 10 03:59:59 2024 UTC).

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