IRC log of pronunciation on 2024-12-09

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16:06:13 [Zakim]
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please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), matatk
16:06:15 [PaulG]
Agenda+ Agenda Review, Membership & Announcements
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Agenda+ Review Use Cases
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Agenda+ Action Items
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Agenda+ Github Issues and examples
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Agenda+ Other Business
16:06:22 [matatk]
present+
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present+
16:06:26 [Alan]
present+
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zakim, next topic
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I don't understand 'next topic', PaulG
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zakim, next item
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agendum 1 -- Agenda Review, Membership & Announcements -- taken up [from PaulG]
16:07:18 [matatk]
Update from Matthew on documents: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pronunciation/2024Nov/0006.html
16:08:08 [PaulG]
matatk: the first three are straight-forward and we can decide what to do with. The others aren't as clear.
16:08:44 [PaulG]
... we need an explainer but it's not usually in the TR space. It has a well-known TAG format which we should compy.
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... consistency in the format helps with sharing it widely
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... we'll use that to help others understand the problems we're trying to solve and considered alternatives (which would never be in a spec)
16:10:40 [PaulG]
... If we can decide which documents we'll proceed with, we can separate out the use cases as we discussed last time.
16:13:24 [PaulG]
... notes from the 11th with Janina confirms this approach of splitting the spec up into smaller chunks that might be better fits.
16:14:37 [PaulG]
... We need to "fix the things you can't do on the web" by restarting the documents with just the problem statements.
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... We'll need to also clean up the "dangling" specs that we're not moving forward with.
16:17:04 [matatk]
scribe+
16:17:14 [matatk]
PaulG: We also have good content in the wiki that we don't want to lose
16:17:52 [matatk]
... e.g. reasons for delays - we need to show a compelling reason for everyone (noting that our educational partners were adamant that it's core to the required functionality).
16:18:30 [PaulG]
PaulG: do we want a second repo, share the current, or something else?
16:19:12 [PaulG]
matatk: it's up to us how we want to organize but we can make changes later. We can also, maybe, keep the TR space but rehome the repo for a doc
16:23:13 [PaulG]
PaulG: how do we want to handle facilitators?
16:25:18 [PaulG]
I'd want the future facilitators to have the organization that makes the most sense for them and what they want to focus on.
16:25:42 [PaulG]
matatk: we can seek APA input for the split
16:26:02 [PaulG]
... like a horizontal review based solely on the use cases document
16:26:50 [PaulG]
but we can also do the community group approach which may have some advantages to incubate ideas and source new ideas
16:35:06 [matatk]
IrfanA: There may be an existing CG that could help with some of our use cases? We should look.
16:38:00 [matatk]
*group discussion about docs*
16:38:02 [matatk]
1. https://www.w3.org/TR/pronunciation-gap-analysis-and-use-cases/ - deprecate
16:38:46 [matatk]
2. https://www.w3.org/TR/pronunciation-gap-analysis/ - update, using sec 4 from 1
16:39:27 [matatk]
3. https://www.w3.org/TR/pronunciation-use-cases/ - update, w/o implementation detail (our north star as PaulG mentioned)
16:41:08 [matatk]
4. https://www.w3.org/TR/pronunciation-user-scenarios/ - fold into 3, and update as needed
16:45:31 [matatk]
5. https://www.w3.org/TR/spoken-html/ - no
16:45:49 [matatk]
6. https://www.w3.org/TR/pronunciation-explainer/ - yes, but not at this URL
16:46:48 [matatk]
PaulG: Could APA chairs discuss in planning about how to coordinate the split, and who'll make decisions on it?
16:47:07 [matatk]
matatk: yes, sure, will continue to bring Janina and Roy in on this.
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zakim, end meeting
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As of this point the attendees have been matatk, PaulG, Alan, IrfanA
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RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/09-pronunciation-minutes.html Zakim
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I am happy to have been of service, matatk; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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