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12:26:16 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
12:26:24 <janina> Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
12:26:31 <janina> Date: 11 Sep 2024
12:26:35 <janina> Chair: Janina
12:26:41 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
12:26:41 <janina> agenda+ TPAC 2024 Planning
12:26:41 <janina> agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
12:26:41 <janina> agenda+ Explicit Review Requests-[WebGPU](https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/WebGPU)
12:26:41 <janina> agenda+ [HR A11y Review Comment Tracker](https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review)
12:26:44 <janina> agenda+ [CSS Update (Paul)](https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues)
12:26:46 <janina> agenda+ Actions check-in
12:26:49 <janina> agenda+ Other business
12:26:51 <janina> agenda+ Be done
12:35:26 <janina>  /join #rqtf
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13:59:25 <janina> present+
14:00:48 <janina> agenda?
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14:01:53 <niklasegger> scribe+
14:02:33 <niklasegger> present+
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14:02:56 <matatk> agenda?
14:03:25 <matatk> present+
14:03:38 <niklasegger> zakim, take up item 1
14:03:38 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
14:03:43 <gautierchomel> present+
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14:04:40 <niklasegger> janina: Usual agenda, someone wants to add something?
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14:05:24 <niklasegger> matatk: Important discussions/ decisions in Agenda Point 5
14:05:28 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:05:28 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- TPAC 2024 Planning -- taken up [from janina]
14:06:06 <matatk> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2024
14:06:38 <niklasegger> janina: Wiki to our arranged meetings is ready, we will keep it up to date
14:07:57 <Fredrik> q+
14:08:05 <niklasegger> janina: One highlight: WCAG 3 and the presentation of the proposed conformance model
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14:08:24 <NehaJ> present+
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14:08:40 <matatk> present+
14:09:13 <matatk> q+ re health procedures
14:09:19 <matatk> qq+ re epub agenda
14:09:27 <niklasegger> janina: Another one on tuesday (9am California time): Important Epub meeting
14:10:15 <janina> q?
14:10:20 <janina> ack ma
14:10:20 <Zakim> matatk, you wanted to discuss health procedures
14:10:22 <janina> scribe+
14:10:44 <matatk> Minutes, re EPUB questions: https://www.w3.org/2024/08/14-apa-minutes#t03
14:11:08 <janina> matatk: Main questions for our agenda on the hybrid Tuesday at TPAC
14:11:28 <janina> matatk: Think we have answers for most; some q's are more open
14:11:54 <janina> q?
14:11:58 <janina> ack ma
14:11:58 <Zakim> matatk, you wanted to react to a previous speaker to discuss epub agenda
14:12:02 <matatk> ack me
14:12:18 <matatk> q+ re TPAC health stuff (in the right order this time :-))
14:12:49 <niklasegger> Fredrik: Is it likely that the WCAG will remain on schedule?
14:13:27 <niklasegger> janina: Actually not sure, but right now they are on time!
14:13:58 <janina> q?
14:14:05 <janina> ack fr
14:14:28 <janina> matatk: Notes we asked in person attendees to maks;
14:14:42 <janina> matatk: It's makes most sense ofr us now
14:14:44 <matatk> https://www.w3.org/2024/09/TPAC/health.html
14:14:51 <janina> matatk: Masks from W3C will be available
14:14:59 <matatk> q?
14:15:23 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:15:23 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, niklasegger
14:15:27 <matatk> ack me
14:15:27 <Zakim> matatk, you wanted to discuss TPAC health stuff (in the right order this time :-))
14:15:29 <janina> ack ma
14:15:32 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:15:32 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Task Force & Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from janina]
14:15:53 <niklasegger> janina: Nothing new to report
14:16:43 <matatk> https://www.w3.org/2024/09/11-rqtf-minutes - XR Accessibility in RQTF
14:16:56 <matatk> janina: Note that we will add a link to the slides - which are super important!
14:16:59 <niklasegger> janina: Interesting discussion in RQTF about XR? Discussion about gaps and possibilities, see minutes
14:17:03 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:17:03 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Explicit Review Requests-[WebGPU](https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/WebGPU) -- taken up [from janina]
14:17:17 <Roy> subtopic: WebGPU and WebGPU Shading Language
14:17:18 <Roy> - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/WebGPU
14:17:18 <Roy> - Working Draft: https://www.w3.org/TR/webgpu/
14:17:18 <Roy> - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/WebGPU_Shading_Language
14:17:18 <Roy> - Working Draft: https://www.w3.org/TR/WGSL/
14:19:03 <janina> q?
14:19:04 <niklasegger> Roy: Groups asked if we are fine with these documents. I think we are, they are quite low level
14:19:10 <niklasegger> janina: Any concerns?
14:20:29 <niklasegger> matatk: No concern, but I still want to look into it. I think before TPAC is doable
14:21:19 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:21:19 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- [HR A11y Review Comment Tracker](https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review) -- taken up [from janina]
14:21:29 <Roy> RRSAgent, make minutes
14:21:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/11-apa-minutes.html Roy
14:22:21 <matatk> subtopic: [WCAG2ICT] Closed functionality list - suggested additions
14:22:21 <matatk> APA tracking issue: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/201
14:22:21 <matatk> Original issue (raised by us during review): https://github.com/w3c/wcag2ict/issues/466
14:22:21 <matatk> WCAG2ICT changes made: https://github.com/w3c/wcag2ict/pull/486/files
14:25:04 <niklasegger> janina: We had some suggestions for improvement and they have made some changes
14:25:54 <niklasegger> (matatk shares his screen and shows the changes in GitHub, see links above)
14:27:15 <matatk> subtopic: [WCAG2ICT] Seeking clarity for key term 'underlying platform software'
14:27:15 <matatk> APA tracking issue: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/202
14:27:15 <matatk> Original issue (raised by us during review): https://github.com/w3c/wcag2ict/issues/465
14:27:15 <matatk> Related issue (rasied by Mitchell Evan): https://github.com/w3c/wcag2ict/issues/414
14:27:17 <matatk> WCAG2ICT changes made (for Mitchell's issue 414): https://github.com/w3c/wcag2ict/pull/467/files
14:27:17 <matatk> WCAG2ICT changes made (for our issue 465): removed 'underlying' from Note 1 under https://w3c.github.io/wcag2ict/#applying-sc-2-1-1-keyboard-to-non-web-documents-and-software and https://w3c.github.io/wcag2ict/#applying-keyboard-interface-to-non-web-documents-and-software
14:31:22 <janina> q?
14:34:09 <janina> q?
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14:36:29 <matatk> gb, off
14:36:33 <matatk> subtopic: [WCAG2ICT] Suggest slight clarification of audience and outcomes
14:36:33 <matatk> APA tracking issue: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/203
14:36:33 <matatk> Original issue (raised by us during review): https://github.com/w3c/wcag2ict/issues/464
14:36:33 <matatk> WCAG2ICT changes made: https://github.com/w3c/wcag2ict/pull/488/files
14:36:34 <niklasegger> matatk: Overall, I think they addressed our points very well. Does anyone have any concerns?(no concerns)
14:37:51 <niklasegger> (... minute just above was for point "Seeking clarity for key term 'underlying platform software')
14:38:08 <gb> matatk, issues and names were already off.
14:40:03 <niklasegger> s/point/subtopic
14:41:10 <niklasegger> matatk: I again think this one is sufficiently addressed. Any concerns? (again no concerns)
14:41:28 <janina> q?
14:41:45 <niklasegger> matatk: I will accept the changes later
14:42:49 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:42:49 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- [CSS Update (Paul)](https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues) -- taken up [from janina]
14:43:01 <PaulG> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/9855
14:43:29 <janina> q?
14:44:43 <niklasegger> PaulG: Discussion about the visibility of the scrollbar
14:45:10 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:45:10 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- Actions check-in -- taken up [from janina]
14:45:38 <niklasegger> zakim, close this item
14:45:38 <Zakim> agendum 7 closed
14:45:39 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:45:39 <Zakim> 8. Other business [from janina]
14:45:41 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:45:41 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Other business -- taken up [from janina]
14:47:38 <niklasegger> janina: Please note that post TPAC, I think, maturity model will have a comeback before the end of the year. We need to start thinking about it, we will recharter next year
14:48:47 <PaulG> https://illuminate.google.com/
14:49:32 <niklasegger> PaulG: Illuminate turns complex science papers into short podcast, if someone is interested see Paul's link above
14:49:46 <Fredrik> Already having the NAUR, why not continue the Tolkenian AURs with AINUR?
14:50:54 <Fredrik> (the above then being meant for the AI user requirements - yeah, lots of backronyming required...)
14:51:01 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:51:01 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- Be done -- taken up [from janina]
14:51:31 <niklasegger> rrsagent, make minutes
14:51:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/11-apa-minutes.html niklasegger
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16:36:07 <janina> zakim, bye
16:36:07 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been janina, PaulG, niklasegger, matatk, gautierchomel, Fredrik, Dr_Keith, NehaJ
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16:36:13 <janina> rrsagent, bye
16:36:13 <RRSAgent> I see no action items