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Accessibility at the Edge Community Group Teleconference

11 September 2024

Attendees

Present
janina, Jason, Lionel_Wolberger, Mike, Shari
Regrets
-
Chair
Janina
Scribe
Lionel_Wolberger, janina

Meeting minutes

<janina> ate: 11 Sep 2024

janina: Proposing we meet next week 18 Sept, then take off 25 Sept and week following
… due to TPAC

Lionel_Wolberger: 2 Oct is Rosh Hashanna

Lionel_Wolberger: The group agrees.

Welcome & Introductions (As needed)

Whither Capabilities?

janina: Frames the issue of how to get the most value out of this document as it stands now.
… propose re-titling the document
… Jason has been proposing that for a long time
… after re-titling, we re-write the abstract
… this document examines the opportunities to refine accessibility after the source is committed
… this is the minimum

Mike: I suggest we put a time limit or deadline as well

<Lionel_Wolberger> +1

Lionel: Proposing titles
… ... Post-Source Accessibility Capabilities

Mike: Who is the audience?
… let's brainstorm here, as I'd like time to consider

janina: Let's get a provisional title

jason: Post-source accesibility techniques and capabilities

Mike: Post-Source Accessibility

Mike: What is 'source'?

Lionel: The group continued to brainstorm. Post Source Code Accessibility
… post production accessibility

janina: 9 am Thursday 26 September we are getting an overview of what is coming in WCAG 3

Shari: Invite me too

Lionel_Wolberger: Accessibility capabilities post-source code or content

Jason: AS long it includes browsers
… something is live. How to we further improve something once it is live
… could be browser manufacturers, AT, etc

janina: there could be a sub-title

Lionel_Wolberger: "Improving" in the subtitle

Lionel_Wolberger: Accessibility capabilities, post-source code or content

Mike: +1

<janina> +1

Jason: +1

Shari: +1

TPAC

janina: https://www.w3.org/2024/09/TPAC/registration.html

Next edits

Jason: We need a new abstract

Jason: Let's re-examine the recurring subheadings (the current definition list)
… Source, Trade-offs, Benefit, Automatability

Lionel_Wolberger: Perhaps we can combine the first three into one subheading, Considerations

janina: There are recurring themes
… such as a portable configuration that a user takes to every website
… this requires being done in post-source

jason: Most things are likely best, when done at source
… but there are often compelling commercial reasons to do it post-source
… and often there is minimal to no downside
… The document is a guide to how you can do things post-source
… and should show the potential pitfalls
… as for example, when post-source code hinges on source code (where the source developer does not know there are downstream code )
… and if the source developer makes a change, it will essentially turn off the post-source code
… so there is a level of collaboration with the people who manage the source code that is required
… for much of these post-source fixes to be robust

janina: Clarifying that the audience is W3C brings new nuances to the fore

janina: Can we go with Accessibility capabilities, post-source code and content

Shari: +1

Jason: +1

Lionel_Wolberger: +1

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 229 (Thu Jul 25 08:38:54 2024 UTC).

Diagnostics

Maybe present: Lionel

All speakers: janina, jason, Lionel, Lionel_Wolberger, Mike, Shari

Active on IRC: janina, Lionel_Wolberger