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18:16:03 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
18:16:04 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
18:16:28 <janina> Meeting: Accessibility at the Edge (A11yEdge) Community Group Teleconference
18:16:36 <janina> Date: 28 Aug 2024
18:16:40 <janina> Chair: Janina
18:16:58 <janina> agenda+ Welcome & Introductions (As Needed)
18:17:20 <janina> agenda+ Capabilities Overview: What Works? What Needs Work?
18:17:48 <janina> agenda+ Content Reorganization (Continued): Our nexted H levels
18:17:58 <janina> agenda+ Next Steps
18:18:02 <janina> agenda+ Be Done
18:32:58 <janina> present+
18:33:04 <janina> scribe+
18:33:22 <janina> present+ Jason
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18:36:35 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
18:36:39 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, who is here?
18:36:39 <Zakim> Present: janina, Jason, Lionel_Wolberger
18:36:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see Lionel_Wolberger, RRSAgent, Zakim, janina, Jem, jamesn, dmontalvo
18:36:44 <janina> zakim, take up item 3
18:36:45 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Content Reorganization (Continued): Our nexted H levels -- taken up [from janina]
18:36:54 <janina> regrets: Chris
18:37:53 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Reviews activities of past month or so ...
18:38:40 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Notes new H2 in Introduction: "Global Patterns" with the three H3's moved up per Janina's email
18:39:45 <janina> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-a11yedge/2024Aug/0007.html
18:40:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> scribe+
18:40:37 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel: Reads through the heading level 1's
18:40:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: We did a lot of readjusting, particulrly with attention to the JS section
18:41:21 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... on the aspirational, APA looked at a specification today that could address the need for a profile,
18:42:00 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... instead of login with FB, or Google, you can login via a site that the end-user specifies
18:43:42 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Returns through the H-level walk through ...
18:43:56 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Noting H2's under Content (HTML) H1 ...
18:44:41 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Raises prospect of including PDF under "Rich Media" H2
18:46:58 <janina> [discussion of PDF -- a container]
18:47:23 <janina> jason: Want to leave it at for now; i.e. we could same for .docx
18:48:21 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Moves to CSS H2--Styling
18:49:43 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Suggests bumping down Keyboard hyperlink access and Manage Focus
18:49:50 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
18:49:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/28-a11yedge-minutes.html janina
18:52:50 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Suggests para introducing H1 denote why grouped here
18:53:15 <janina> janina: A11y support is baked in; in js the author owns everything they might break
18:55:25 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Notes automatability of strikethroughs would be "many cases"
18:56:03 <janina> jason: Agreed
18:57:22 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Images & Graphics is actually about video, timed-media
18:57:28 <janina> jason: Agree with "Timed Media"
18:57:34 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
18:57:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/28-a11yedge-minutes.html janina
19:00:02 <janina> janina: Bulleted and Numbered should be under HTML
19:00:11 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: 4.5.1 into Content Details
19:00:30 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
19:00:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/28-a11yedge-minutes.html janina
19:01:45 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Notes two validations under Forms sound similar
19:04:25 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Ambiguous Clarification better than Notification; also External link
19:05:58 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel: way&mdasy;
19:06:05 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: typo: &mdasy should be mdash
19:06:47 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Live Site Translations doesn't have our def list subs
19:06:58 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
19:07:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/28-a11yedge-minutes.html janina
19:07:32 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: automatability for TTS digits and acronym: many cases
19:07:39 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
19:07:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/28-a11yedge-minutes.html janina
19:08:59 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Moving to Management ...
19:09:17 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: want to meet user's preferred, not just publisher's policies ...
19:11:22 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Notes automatabilieis aren't leveraging, but locus of control
19:15:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Content Provider Checks change to Accessibility Enhancements
19:15:15 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Better than Content Provider Checks would be "Accessibility Enhancements"
19:16:18 <janina> jason: Like the reorg in the main
19:18:31 <janina> zakim, take up item 4
19:18:31 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Next Steps -- taken up [from janina]
19:20:12 <janina> jason: we ned to say "this document captures a philosophy that desired outcomes can be achieved at various places in the stac, through various techniques that may or may not be at source
19:25:40 <janina> jason: Suggesting an Abstract rewrite from Janina
19:25:53 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
19:25:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/28-a11yedge-minutes.html janina
19:30:07 <janina> zakim, end meeting
19:30:07 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been janina, Jason, Lionel_Wolberger
19:30:09 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
19:30:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/28-a11yedge-minutes.html Zakim
19:30:15 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, janina; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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