IRC log of maturity on 2024-08-21

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please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio
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meeting: Maturity Model
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chair: David Fazio
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present+
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Agenda+ New Business
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Agenda+ GitHub Issue #112 Proposing adjusted structure for Outcomes, Proof Points, and Stages (back to previous proposal!)
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Agenda+ GitHub Issue #118 Knowledge and Skills - Proof Point Updates
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Agenda+ GitHub Issue ##130 Where to place "internal support" for MSE or dedicated A11Y Team?
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/issues/112 -> #112
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/issues/118 -> #118
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Agenda+ GitHub Issue #155 Section 3.4: maturity also depends on how effective the ICT development processes are in producing accessible ICT.
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/issues/155 -> #155
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scribe+
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agenda
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zakim, agenda?
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I see 5 items remaining on the agenda:
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1. New Business [from Fazio]
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2. GitHub Issue #112 Proposing adjusted structure for Outcomes, Proof Points, and Stages (back to previous proposal!) [from Fazio]
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3. GitHub Issue #118 Knowledge and Skills - Proof Point Updates [from Fazio]
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4. GitHub Issue ##130 Where to place "internal support" for MSE or dedicated A11Y Team? [from Fazio]
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/issues/112 -> #112
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/issues/118 -> #118
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5. GitHub Issue #155 Section 3.4: maturity also depends on how effective the ICT development processes are in producing accessible ICT. [from Fazio]
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/issues/155 -> #155
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zakim, next item
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agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Fazio]
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present+ Jeff Kline
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Jeff: State of Texas, drafted a maturity model
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Fazio: ISO document reviewed to compare with Maturity model
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Jeff: These models are not interchangable
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Fazio: We are prepparing for future issues
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JenniferXZ: NBC universal will share a draft soon
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zakim, next item
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agendum 2 -- GitHub Issue #112 Proposing adjusted structure for Outcomes, Proof Points, and Stages (back to previous proposal!) -- taken up [from Fazio]
15:13:34 [NehaJ]
https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/112
15:13:34 [gb]
https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/112 -> Issue 112 Proposing adjusted structure for Outcomes, Proof Points, and Stages (back to previous proposal!) (by jake-abma)
15:16:35 [NehaJ]
Fazio: read the issue
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q?
15:18:12 [NehaJ]
Jeff: we had a discussion in 2022, formatting of assessment tool and we arrived at this version, pointing out that this is not relevant now
15:19:42 [NehaJ]
Jeff: We can comment by saying we have revised the document and ask to have a look
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JenniferXZ: It is not clear how it is measured that level has moved up
15:24:13 [Fazio]
Thank you, for your comment. We have taken it into consideration, along with other feedback from the public, and significantly revised the document. We believe that we have addressed your concern. If it still persists, please open a new issue
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Fazio: Response- Thank you, for your comment. We have taken it into consideration, along with other feedback from the public, and significantly revised the document. We believe that we have addressed your concern. If it still persists, please open a new issue, and provide any supporting documentation, you would like
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zakim, next item
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agendum 3 -- GitHub Issue #118 Knowledge and Skills - Proof Point Updates -- taken up [from Fazio]
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/issues/118 -> #118
15:27:20 [NehaJ]
https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/118
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https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/118 -> Issue 118 Knowledge and Skills - Proof Point Updates (by jake-abma)
15:29:54 [NehaJ]
Jeff, Fazio: It is covering most of the things in the latest version
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AngelaBarker: Can we check wording once?
15:32:21 [NehaJ]
Fazio: Response- Thank you, for your comment. We have taken it into consideration, along with other feedback from the public, and significantly revised the document. We believe that we have addressed your concern. If it still persists, please open a new issue, and provide any supporting documentation, you would like
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zakim, next item
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agendum 4 -- GitHub Issue ##130 Where to place "internal support" for MSE or dedicated A11Y Team? -- taken up [from Fazio]
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https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/130
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https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/130 -> Issue 130 Where to place "internal support" for MSE or dedicated A11Y Team? (by jake-abma)
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Jeff: Issue raiser thought that levels are mapped to stages in generic sense
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Fazio: Supporting employees may be implying training on accessiblity
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Fazio: Proposing general response as before
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RESOLUTION: Thank you, for your comment. We have taken it into consideration, along with other feedback from the public, and significantly revised the document. We believe that we have addressed your concern. If it still persists, please open a new issue, and provide any supporting documentation, you would like
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zakim, next item
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agendum 5 -- GitHub Issue #155 Section 3.4: maturity also depends on how effective the ICT development processes are in producing accessible ICT. -- taken up [from Fazio]
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/issues/155 -> #155
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https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/155
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https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/155 -> Issue 155 Section 3.4: maturity also depends on how effective the ICT development processes are in producing accessible ICT. (by jasonjgw)
15:52:57 [NehaJ]
Jeff: Most of the concern are addressed in proof point language
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Jeff: What needs to be put on Matrix is unclear right now, need to recheck and frame it again
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CharlesL: You can put all the information to map it to spreadsheet
15:59:29 [NehaJ]
Issue assigned to Jeff and CharlesL
15:59:40 [Fazio]
assigned to charles and jeff: Thank you, for your comment. We agree that attention should be called to establishing metrics within dimensions. We will explore how to ensure that is incorporated.
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