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12:01:42 <kaz> meeting: WoT-WG/IG
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12:02:27 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Ege_Korkan, Jan_Romann, Michael_Koster, Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:03:40 <kaz> scribenick: sebastian9
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12:05:03 <kaz> present+ Kunihiko_Toumura, Luca_Barbato
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12:05:10 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#7_August_2024
12:05:14 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:05:18 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:05:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/07-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:05:27 <dezell> present+ David_Ezell
12:05:27 <sebastian9> topic: Guests, IE
12:05:32 <sebastian9> MM: no guests today
12:05:48 <sebastian9> ... Sherif agreed to lead the Security TF in the future
12:05:52 <kaz> q+
12:05:57 <kaz> s/Sherif/Charith/
12:06:04 <kaz> q-
12:07:03 <sebastian9> ... there will be a seperate meeting planned to onboard him
12:07:35 <sebastian9> ... everyone is welcome to join the meeting
12:07:43 <kaz> q+
12:07:46 <kaz> q-
12:07:55 <sebastian9> ... meeeting should take place before TPAC
12:08:02 <kaz> chair: McCool
12:08:05 <sebastian9> topic: Minutes
12:08:16 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner, David_Ezell
12:08:27 <sebastian9> <MM shows the minutes from last week>
12:08:37 <sebastian9> -> https://www.w3.org/2024/07/31-wot-minutes.html
12:08:48 <sebastian9> MM: any objections?
12:08:50 <sebastian9> no
12:08:57 <sebastian9> minutes approved
12:09:09 <sebastian9> s/meeeting/meeting
12:09:13 <kaz> s/html/html July-31/
12:09:16 <sebastian9> topic: Quick items
12:09:37 <kaz> q+
12:09:53 <sebastian9> MM: Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities IG charter is apporved
12:10:00 <kaz> q-
12:10:01 <sebastian9> s/apporved/approved
12:10:23 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:10:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/07-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:10:34 <sebastian9> ... there will be breakout session during TPAC 2024
12:11:08 <sebastian9> Kaz: there will be a preliminary discussion for the breakout in August
12:11:26 <kaz> s/will be/might be going to be/
12:11:49 <sebastian9> MM: How about the status of the adopter list?
12:12:14 <kaz> i/Web-based/subtopic: Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities IG/
12:12:14 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:12:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/07-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:12:23 <sebastian9> Ege: idea is that the CG maintain a page that is still under the W3C
12:12:43 <kaz> i/How about the/subtopic: WoT Adopters/
12:12:55 <sebastian9> ... the adopters will be list there
12:13:20 <kaz> s/list/listed/
12:13:29 <sebastian9> ... page will be labeled as CG
12:14:13 <sebastian9> ... Coralie will see a draft first for approval
12:14:47 <kaz> subtopic: How to accelerate the Use Cases work?
12:15:06 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2024/08/07-wot-uc-minutes.html UC discussion on Aug-7
12:15:27 <sebastian9> MM: currently, there is less progress
12:15:57 <kaz> [[
12:15:58 <kaz> TF Resolution Today: Discuss the new template given in usecases PR https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/300 in the main call today and call for a resolution to adopt it on Sept 4 - in the meantime, do test cases based on TD use cases and request feedback and suggested changes in the PR.
12:15:58 <kaz> Would like to add a second TF moderator to focus on requirements.
12:15:58 <kaz> ]]
12:16:00 <sebastian9> ... blocking us adopting us new use cases if there is no new UC template
12:16:27 <kaz> i/TF Resolution/Proposal on the WoT main wiki:/
12:16:32 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:16:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/07-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:17:38 <kaz> q?
12:17:55 <sebastian9> ... in UC call we discussed on a resultion
12:18:10 <JKRhb> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:18:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/07-wot-minutes.html JKRhb
12:18:17 <kaz> s/TF Resolution T/1. TF Resolution T/
12:18:22 <kaz> s/Would like to/2. Would like to/
12:18:26 <McCool> q?
12:18:51 <JKRhb> s/resultion/resolution/
12:18:53 <sebastian9> ... it would be helpful to have a co-moderator
12:19:00 <JKRhb> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:19:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/07-wot-minutes.html JKRhb
12:19:15 <sebastian9> ... to support the UC call
12:19:55 <sebastian9> ... we looking for co-moderator. People who are interested should write an email
12:20:03 <kaz> [ send your message to team-wot@w3.org ]
12:20:08 <sebastian9> topic: Meetups
12:20:18 <EgeKorkan> https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/b74f11e7-93d6-4b15-b998-6e55054a6f61/
12:20:29 <kaz> i|events|subtopic: WoT CG|
12:20:30 <sebastian9> subtopic: WoT CG
12:20:43 <kaz> s|subtopic: WoT CG||
12:20:43 <EgeKorkan> q+
12:20:47 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:20:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/07-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:21:07 <sebastian9> MM: there is meeting plant on 19th September
12:21:32 <sebastian9> -> https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/b74f11e7-93d6-4b15-b998-6e55054a6f61/
12:21:39 <kaz> q+
12:21:41 <kaz> ack e
12:21:42 <sebastian9> subtopic: WoT JP CG
12:22:14 <kaz> ack k
12:22:33 <sebastian9> TM: there was an meeting on July 26. A bigger event is plant, however, no date yet.
12:22:38 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:22:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/07-wot-minutes.html kaz
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12:23:09 <sebastian9> Kaz: meeting on July 26 was only internally
12:23:31 <kaz> s/19th September/19th September about "Scientific Instrumentation and Control with WoT"/
12:23:44 <sebastian9> topic: Notices
12:24:11 <sebastian9> ek: first part of the WoT Tutorial is published by the WoT CG
12:24:31 <sebastian9> -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-cg/tutorials/whatiswot/
12:24:46 <tomo> s/there was an meeting on July 26. A bigger event is plant, however, no date yet./Use case event on July 26 was finished. Now WoT-JP CG plan next event. However, no date yet./
12:24:47 <sebastian9> ek: there is also a youtube playlist
12:24:58 <sebastian9> -> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7z9Jd8H_9zpA7LFyWy8-kuHvIfpL4X8i
12:25:39 <sebastian9> MM: many thanks for this
12:25:48 <kaz> s/8i/8i Youtube playlist/
12:26:16 <kaz> s|whatiswot/|whatiswot/ What is WoT page|
12:26:18 <dape> q+
12:26:19 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:26:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/07-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:26:26 <sebastian9> EK: fot the TPAC there will another video provided like a 1min summarizes
12:26:50 <kaz> q+
12:27:02 <kaz> q-
12:27:37 <kaz> ack d
12:27:44 <sebastian9> DP: I could not find a hint that more videos are provided in the future
12:27:59 <sebastian9> MM: good idea to make note
12:28:02 <sebastian9> EK: ok
12:28:26 <sebastian9> topic: Liaisons
12:28:31 <sebastian9> subtopic: OPC UA
12:28:54 <sebastian9> MM: kick-off took place last week
12:29:08 <sebastian9> SK: exactly. we resume in Spetember
12:29:29 <sebastian9> subtopic: ETSI ISG CIM
12:29:47 <sebastian9> MM: agreed on simple liaison
12:29:58 <sebastian9> -> https://www.w3.org/liaisons/#simple
12:30:06 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/liaisons/ngsi-ld.md proposal
12:30:34 <sebastian9> MM: neext meeting will take place in the week September 9-13
12:30:45 <kaz> q+
12:31:06 <sebastian9> ... the regular meeting will be open to all WoT IG members
12:31:26 <kaz> -> -> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/bo7RXZzb Doodle poll
12:31:33 <EgeKorka_> q+
12:31:42 <sebastian9> ... there is a doodle to find the best time for the bi-weekly meeting
12:31:48 <kaz> ack k
12:31:52 <sebastian9> -> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/bo7RXZzb
12:32:12 <kaz> s/-> ->/->/
12:32:31 <kaz> s|-> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/bo7RXZzb Doodle poll||
12:32:38 <kaz> s/zb/zb Doodle poll/
12:32:43 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:32:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/07-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:32:53 <EgeKorka_> I have noted my attendance possibility but monday does not work for that specific date. Regularly it should be fine
12:32:56 <sebastian9> MM: FIWARE is also involved in this topic. Looking for a protocol binding
12:33:21 <kaz> q?
12:33:31 <sebastian9> ... there is a good connection to smart city
12:33:41 <kaz> q+
12:33:47 <kaz> ack e
12:33:48 <kaz> ack k
12:34:00 <sebastian9> topic: Schedule
12:34:14 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Cancellations_and_Schedule_Updates Cancellations
12:34:15 <sebastian9> <MM shows wiki page>
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12:34:41 <dape> q+
12:34:55 <dape> ack dape
12:34:56 <sebastian9> MM: are there some exception to the cancelled meetings, please let us know now
12:35:25 <kaz> s/are there some/is there is any/
12:35:44 <sebastian9> DP: we already cancelled the API calls ourselves
12:35:55 <kaz> s/API/Scripting API/
12:36:14 <kaz> topic: F2F Planning
12:36:16 <kaz> subtopic: TPAC
12:36:27 <sebastian9> <MM shows the Charter roadmap>
12:36:37 <kaz> s/subtopic: TPAC//
12:36:38 <sebastian9> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/planning/schedule.md
12:36:41 <kaz> s/topic: F2F Planning//
12:36:57 <kaz> s/schedule.md/schedule.md schedule.md/
12:37:03 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:37:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/07-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:37:42 <kaz> topic: F2F Planning
12:37:48 <sebastian9> topic: F2F Planning
12:37:54 <kaz> s/topic: F2F Planning//
12:37:58 <sebastian9> subtopic: TPAC
12:38:01 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:38:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/07-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:38:13 <sebastian9> <MM show the TPAC planning wiki page>
12:38:28 <sebastian9> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_F2F_2024_planning
12:38:51 <sebastian9> MM: Sebastian and myself will reachout the regarding the joint meedings
12:38:57 <kaz> s/planning/planning TPAC 2024 WoT Wiki/
12:39:01 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:39:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/07-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:39:14 <sebastian9> s/the regarding/regarding
12:39:30 <kaz> s/joint meetings/joint meetings (Spatial Data and JSON-LD)/
12:40:16 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/tpac2024-breakouts/issues TPAC 2024 Breakout proposals on GitHub
12:40:39 <sebastian9> MM: there will be breakouts
12:40:41 <sebastian9> -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2024AprJun/0081.html
12:40:49 <EgeKorka_> q+
12:41:20 <sebastian9> MM: please record the breakouts to avoid conflict
12:41:26 <sebastian9> s/conflict/conflicts
12:41:34 <kaz> present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda
12:42:13 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/tpac2024-breakouts/wiki/Breakout%E2%80%90time%E2%80%90slots 6 time slots
12:42:14 <kaz> q+
12:42:22 <sebastian9> MM: for agenda topics I added Discovery
12:42:30 <kaz> ack k
12:43:03 <kaz> s/html/html Breakout announcement (Member-only)/
12:43:34 <sebastian9> EK: Did discussion with Michael Koster, all the topics around TD Tooling can be also a breakout session
12:43:45 <kaz> s/6 time slots/6 time slots for TPAC breakouts/
12:43:48 <kaz> ack e
12:44:02 <kaz> q+
12:44:05 <EgeKorka_> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf
12:44:29 <sebastian9> ... also we had the schema discussion last time we can make a breakout to give an update how we plan to use it in the TD with LinkML
12:44:37 <kaz> q-
12:44:48 <kaz> kaz: and possibly registry updates also
12:44:53 <kaz> i/and/scribenick: kaz/
12:44:59 <kaz> scribenick: sebastian9
12:45:13 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:45:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/07-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:45:22 <sebastian9> MM: we need to define the times needed for the agenda topics
12:46:47 <sebastian9> MM: something missing in the agenda?
12:46:56 <sebastian9> SK: I miss TD/Binding topics
12:47:10 <sebastian9> q+
12:47:15 <kaz> q+
12:47:44 <sebastian9> ... should also add Liasions, e.g., with OPC UA
12:48:13 <sebastian9> MM: and ETSI ISG CIM
12:48:18 <kaz> ack s
12:48:20 <kaz> ack k
12:49:39 <sebastian9> Kaz: we have 2 days meeting, in total 4h
12:50:16 <sebastian9> <MM makes some time duration proposal>
12:50:58 <EgeKorka_> brb
12:51:33 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_F2F_2024_planning#Topics Topics and time
12:53:41 <sebastian9> topic: Policies
12:53:56 <sebastian9> <MM shows the latest issues regarding policies>
12:54:09 <sebastian9> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/labels/Policy
12:54:18 <sebastian9> topic: TF Leads
12:54:37 <sebastian9> MM: we have a new lead for Security
12:55:59 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:56:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/07-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:56:06 <kaz> s/brb//
12:56:21 <sebastian9> MM: any other business?
12:56:23 <sebastian9> no
12:56:33 <sebastian9> adjourn
12:56:40 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:56:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/07-wot-minutes.html kaz
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