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11:00:42 <kaz> meeting: WoT Scripting API
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11:03:56 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Cristiano_Aguzzi
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11:11:44 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner, Jan_Romann, Tomoaki_Mizushima
11:12:28 <dape> TOPIC: Previous minutes
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11:12:47 <dape> -> 8 July -> https://www.w3.org/2024/07/08-wot-script-minutes.html
11:13:01 <dape> CA: Minutes look fine
11:13:03 <kaz> q+
11:13:32 <kaz> q-
11:13:34 <dape> Kaz: Changing title?
11:13:43 <dape> CA: No, looked just weird in the beginning
11:13:56 <dape> CA: No objections -> minutes approved
11:14:02 <dape> TOPIC: Schedule
11:14:17 <dape> CA: Moving to vacation time
11:14:37 <dape> ... and also moving scripting call to another slot?
11:14:48 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Move scripting API call to another slot?
11:15:00 <dape> CA: Do we want to start a new Doodle call
11:15:07 <dape> q+
11:15:12 <kaz> q+
11:15:58 <JKRhb> q+
11:16:10 <dape> DP: Talked about that in the past.. decided to keep the slot
11:16:28 <dape> CA: Yes, we had other calls on Monday... nowadays we can move more easily
11:16:37 <dape> Kaz: One hour later would be okay
11:16:43 <dape> ... current slot is also fine
11:16:47 <dape> ack kaz
11:16:52 <dape> ack JKRhb
11:17:01 <dape> Jan: 1 hour later wouldn't work
11:17:15 <dape> ... Doodle poll seems good to see the options
11:17:19 <dape> CA: I see
11:17:30 <dape> ... not sure about changing the day?
11:17:32 <dape> q+
11:18:41 <dape> DP: Wouldn't mind switching the day
11:18:57 <dape> CA: Okay... then let's go with a Doodle poll
11:18:59 <dape> q+
11:19:37 <dape> ack dape
11:19:58 <kaz> q+
11:20:10 <dape> ... will do a Doodle for the week after vacation time
11:20:21 <kaz> q-
11:20:39 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Vacation time
11:20:49 <dape> CA: August 19, Sept 2
11:21:00 <dape> ... I am no available on Sept 2
11:21:33 <kaz> q+
11:21:45 <dape> ... I would suggest to re-start Sept 16
11:22:36 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Cancellations WoT Cancellations
11:22:36 <dape> Kaz: In main call we decided to cancel latter part of August
11:22:53 <dape> CA: Okay, that re-starting on Sept 16
11:23:13 <dape> s/that re/that means re
11:24:20 <dape> <CA updating W3C calandar>
11:24:37 <dape> TOPIC: PRs
11:24:48 <dape> CA: Didn't see any updates
11:24:57 <cris> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/551
11:24:57 <dape> SUBTOPIC: #551 Add clarifications for discover method
11:25:11 <dape> CA: Zoltan approved
11:25:22 <dape> JR: I think we can approve this PR
11:25:30 <dape> ... moved some changes to another PR
11:25:39 <dape> ... so merging seems fine
11:26:01 <dape> ... PR is now merely a clarification
11:26:38 <dape> CA: Okay, I see
11:26:49 <dape> ... we can go ahead and merge
11:27:14 <dape> TOPIC: Issues
11:27:18 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
11:27:21 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:27:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
11:27:29 <dape> SUBTOPIC:  Should schema.type be always defined? #546
11:27:34 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/546
11:27:41 <kaz> chair: Cristiano
11:27:45 <dape> CA: Started with problems we had in node-wot
11:27:58 <dape> ... has label "propose closing"
11:28:19 <kaz> s|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/551||
11:28:41 <dape> ... we did some work within #534 to make the situation better
11:28:50 <kaz> i|Zoltan app|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/551 PR 551 - Add clarifications for discover method|
11:29:06 <dape> ... there might be future use-cases / features ... but this issue should be fixed
11:29:07 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:29:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
11:29:15 <cris> q?
11:29:15 <dape> q+
11:29:15 <kaz> q-
11:29:56 <kaz> s| PR 551 - Add clarifications for discover method||
11:29:57 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:29:57 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft minutes', kaz.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
11:30:02 <dape> DP: Agree, closing
11:30:02 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:30:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
11:30:22 <dape> SUBTOPIC:  Support for additionalResponses #548
11:30:26 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/548
11:30:35 <dape> CA: Zoltan is unfortunately not here
11:32:04 <dape> ... could work on supporting the error case
11:32:07 <dape> q?
11:32:11 <dape> ack dape
11:32:40 <dape> ... another discussion is for additionalResponses  in the case of successful responses
11:32:58 <dape> ... reporting errors might be one step further
11:33:02 <kaz> q+
11:33:05 <dape> q+
11:33:22 <dape> Kaz: We need to think about error handling
11:33:38 <dape> ... new discussions about re-using initial connection
11:33:51 <kaz> q-
11:33:52 <dape> ... seems related
11:35:33 <dape> DP: We should split up issue in error/success case also
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11:36:51 <dape> q?
11:37:26 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:37:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
11:38:13 <kaz> [ Kaz will remove "." and "s/.ack dape//" above later :) ]
11:38:23 <dape> CA: After the call I will create relevant issues
11:38:33 <kaz> s/Kaz will/@@@ Kaz will/
11:38:45 <dape> SUBTOPIC:  Extended return type of invokeAction() #555
11:38:50 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/555
11:39:01 <dape> CA: related to previous issue...
11:39:13 <dape> ... started on profile discussion
11:39:30 <dape> ... we cannot be sure about async actions
11:40:06 <dape> ... Zoltan proposed overloading Promise
11:40:18 <dape> ... Daniel suggested ActionStatus
11:41:00 <dape> ... in the end InteractionOutput should be extended
11:41:42 <dape> CA: Suggest to assign it and wait for PR
11:41:51 <dape> DP: +1
11:42:15 <dape> DP: I can give it a try
11:42:47 <dape> q?
11:43:03 <dape> SUBTOPIC:  Non-validating value() function #554
11:43:08 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/554
11:43:36 <dape> CA: we are coming from a node-wot issue
11:44:02 <dape> ... discussion was to not always validate value() function
11:44:54 <dape> ... we are inspired by Body Mixin type
11:45:04 <dape> ... it has json() function
11:45:20 <dape> ... already now we can by-pass validation function
11:45:27 <dape> ... it would just be  shortcut
11:46:20 <dape> ... Jan mentioned json() might not be the right name.. we have different content type
11:47:05 <dape> DP: Agree with Jan
11:47:16 <dape> .... boils down to picking the right name
11:47:25 <dape> ... maybe "raw" ?
11:48:46 <dape> CA: We also have the argument that some platforms do not have validation at all
11:49:20 <kaz> q+
11:50:03 <dape> DP: Capabilities provided by implementation ?
11:50:17 <dape> Kaz: Is validation part of TD?
11:50:20 <kaz> q=
11:50:23 <kaz> s/q=//
11:50:25 <kaz> q-
11:50:28 <dape> ... if not, we should be carefull
11:51:48 <dape> CA: TD does not speak about payload
11:51:59 <JKRhb> q+
11:52:11 <dape> .... nor about validation
11:52:15 <dape> ... but I will check
11:52:36 <kaz> q+
11:52:36 <dape> JR: BTW, it is possible to reference JSON schema, right?
11:52:50 <dape> ... we could point to it
11:52:53 <dape> q+
11:53:04 <kaz> ack j
11:53:05 <kaz> ack k
11:53:07 <dape> Kaz: Yes, technically we can refer to JSON schema
11:53:32 <kaz> s/schema/schema but starting discussion about that now is not a good idea for today :)/
11:54:10 <dape> ack dape
11:54:51 <dape> CA: Agree with Kaz, that TD should beak about payload validation and expectation
11:55:12 <dape> s/TD should beak/TD should speak
11:55:32 <dape> CA: I am okay with raw() proposal and work on a PR
11:56:01 <dape> SUBTOPIC:  Use a different tag for unstable npm packages #488
11:56:05 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/488
11:56:23 <dape> CA: we had long discussion in TD taskforce about versioning
11:56:56 <dape> ... wonder whether discussion has been settled
11:57:40 <dape> DP: Didn't find a resolution
11:57:55 <dape> CA: Will talk with Ege
11:58:28 <dape> [adjourned]
12:09:11 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:09:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
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