IRC log of wot on 2024-07-31

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meeting: WoT-WG/IG
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present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Koster, Ege_Korkan, Luca_Barbato, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima
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present+ Kunihiko_Toumura
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present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch
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present+ Mahda_Noura
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rrsagent, make log public
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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present+ Mahda_Noura
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present+ Daniel_Peintner
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chair: Koster
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present+ David_Ezell
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agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#31_July_2024
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scribenick: luca_barbato
12:09:20 [luca_barbato]
topic: Minutes
12:10:09 [kaz]
s/Minutes/IEs/
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q+
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ack k
12:11:46 [luca_barbato]
kaz: We asked Charith if he is interested to be the TF leader for security, but more discussion should happen on the Chair call.
12:11:53 [luca_barbato]
topic: Minutes
12:12:00 [kaz]
-> https://www.w3.org/2024/07/24-wot-minutes.html July-24
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s/for security/for security and he's interested/
12:12:44 [luca_barbato]
mk: Per policy they had been pre-reviewed <quickly goes through it>, if there is anything missing please tell
12:13:02 [kaz]
s|Chair call|Chair's call/mailinglist about onboarding, etc.|
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s/more dis/some more dis/
12:13:59 [luca_barbato]
<no remarks>
12:14:05 [luca_barbato]
mk: Minutes approved
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topic: Quick items
12:14:17 [kaz]
q+
12:14:22 [kaz]
subtopic: Smart Cities
12:14:46 [luca_barbato]
kaz: I got approval and the announced should be out today or tomorrow
12:15:04 [luca_barbato]
mk: We'll have a kickoff at TPAC
12:15:13 [luca_barbato]
kaz: and a preparation meeting in August
12:15:25 [luca_barbato]
subtopic: Planning documents
12:15:27 [kaz]
s/a prep/a possible prep/
12:15:47 [kaz]
-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/planning planning area
12:15:47 [luca_barbato]
ege: There is a pr that I would like to merge
12:15:54 [kaz]
s/a pr/a PR/
12:15:55 [Ege]
https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1202
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s/https/-> https/
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s/1202/1202 wot PR 1202 - TD Planning Reorganization/
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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s/the announced/the AC announcement/
12:17:34 [luca_barbato]
ege: <describes the PR>
12:18:17 [luca_barbato]
ege: The plan is to keep the README.md to hold the links to the other TF repos and their planning documents
12:18:40 [luca_barbato]
mk: I do not see anything controversial, shall we merge it now?
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q?
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<everybody is fine>
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<merged>
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subtopic: Adopter list
12:19:37 [Ege]
q+
12:19:42 [kaz]
q+
12:20:35 [luca_barbato]
ege: There was a small misunderstanding, the preliminary conclusion is to have Marketing TF to have a resolution on moving the activity to the CG
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ack e
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qq+ McCool
12:20:57 [luca_barbato]
... Tomorrow Marketing meeting attendance is welcome
12:21:45 [luca_barbato]
mm: We have to make clear the activity is from the Community and not the Working Group activity
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q- m
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q- k
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12:23:26 [luca_barbato]
mk: Can we have a resolution to link that page?
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q+
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q-
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q+
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ack dape
12:24:21 [kaz]
i/Can we/kaz: let's clarify the WoT-IG resolution about this next Wednesday after the Marketing TF resolution, and then bring our proposal to the MarComm Team./
12:24:27 [kaz]
i/let's cl/scribenick: kaz/
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i/Can we/scribenick: luca_barbato/
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q?
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/31-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:25:08 [luca_barbato]
topic: Notices
12:25:15 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:25:23 [luca_barbato]
mk: Any notice to bring up?
12:25:23 [luca_barbato]
<none>
12:25:26 [luca_barbato]
topic: Meetups
12:25:31 [kaz]
i/Notices/scribenick: kaz/
12:25:36 [Ege]
q+
12:25:49 [kaz]
i/Notices/mm: should have TF resolution first and then IG resolution./
12:25:59 [luca_barbato]
ege: There will be a CG meetup the 19th September
12:26:06 [kaz]
i/Notices/kaz: right. so let's make a resolution next Wednesday./
12:26:14 [luca_barbato]
... it is about a control system for lab lasers
12:26:21 [kaz]
i/Any no/scribenick: luca_barbato/
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:26:39 [kaz]
q?
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ack e
12:27:15 [luca_barbato]
miz: Last Friday the JP CG we had an use-case event in which we presented the UC template
12:27:23 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/31-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:27:37 [kaz]
q+
12:27:44 [luca_barbato]
... The next event we plan to provide UCs, event to be planned
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q-
12:28:05 [luca_barbato]
kaz: Last Friday was a preparation meeting with the Core Members
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i/There will/subtopic: WoT CG/
12:28:20 [luca_barbato]
topic: Liasons
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i/Last Fri/subtopic: WoT JP CG/
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subtopic: OPC Foundation
12:28:39 [luca_barbato]
mk: Yesterday there was an OPC kickoff meeting
12:29:08 [luca_barbato]
seb: We had different topic to discuss
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s/Core Members/Core Members, and they need to think about the schedule and logistics for the actual use case event from now./
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:29:56 [kaz]
s/topic to/topics to/
12:29:57 [luca_barbato]
... we had an introduction with many participant from the industry and also Jan since his university is also a member of OPC
12:30:14 [kaz]
s/OPC kick/OPC UA Binding WG kick/
12:30:18 [luca_barbato]
... ege presented the capabilities of TD
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s/ege p/Ege p/
12:31:05 [luca_barbato]
... the plugfest will be the first milestone to test the binding
12:31:32 [luca_barbato]
... it is a bi-weekly meeting, but Augustu will be skipped due vacations
12:32:33 [luca_barbato]
seb: It took me about 3 years to get it started, but now we are progressing quickly
12:32:36 [mjk]
q?
12:33:01 [luca_barbato]
... The next meeting it 10th of September, you are welcome to join
12:34:19 [kaz]
s/it 10/is 10/
12:34:42 [kaz]
s/Augustu/August/
12:34:50 [kaz]
s/to join/to join, McCool/
12:35:04 [kaz]
subtopic: ETSI
12:35:08 [luca_barbato]
subtopic: ETSI ISG
12:35:36 [kaz]
q+
12:35:39 [luca_barbato]
mk: We added the liasion and we have a bi-weekly meeting
12:36:02 [kaz]
s/subtopic: ETSI ISG/@@@/
12:36:05 [kaz]
s/subtopic: ETSI//
12:36:24 [luca_barbato]
mm: Once we have an agreement can expand the meeting topics and scope
12:36:31 [kaz]
s/@@@/subtopic: ETSI ISG CIM/
12:36:40 [luca_barbato]
topic: Schedule
12:36:48 [kaz]
s/can exp/we can exp/
12:37:20 [kaz]
s/scope/scope and involve group participants in addition to the Chairs/
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q-
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12:38:19 [luca_barbato]
kaz: lets cancel 12-16
12:38:27 [luca_barbato]
<everybody approves>
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s/lets/let's/
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q+
12:39:29 [luca_barbato]
q+
12:39:59 [luca_barbato]
kaz: Regarding TPAC, personally I prefer having a break after TPAC
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ack k
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ack lu
12:42:52 [luca_barbato]
lu: We could send an email to make sure we have enough people for the meetings 19~30 August, We have the plugfest preparation meeting that's precious
12:42:55 [kaz]
q+
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ack k
12:45:14 [luca_barbato]
mk: The proposal is to have meetings in the Aug 5th week, and cancel the other August weeks
12:45:28 [luca_barbato]
mk: In September we focus on TPAC and plugfest preparation
12:46:22 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
12:46:23 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/31-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:46:35 [luca_barbato]
topic: F2F meeting
12:47:08 [kaz]
s/F2F meeting/Schedule/
12:47:11 [kaz]
q+
12:47:31 [luca_barbato]
mm: We should make sure to meet the milestones
12:47:58 [kaz]
i|We should|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/planning/schedule.md schedule.md|
12:48:04 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:48:27 [luca_barbato]
mm: Discovery is at risk since the works are on hold
12:48:30 [kaz]
s/topic: Schedule/topic: Publication schedule/
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s/topic: Schedule/topic: Meeting schedule/
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:48:58 [luca_barbato]
mm: but some of it blocked on TD 2.0
12:49:14 [luca_barbato]
... once it is ready Discovery would need some adaptations
12:49:22 [Ege]
q+
12:49:43 [luca_barbato]
mk: So we need to have everything ready by TPAC if possible
12:50:20 [kaz]
ack k
12:50:48 [luca_barbato]
ege: I do not think the TD milestone is realistic at this point
12:52:29 [kaz]
i/I do not/kaz: Given we have only 10 more minutes today, let's ask all the Editors to start to think about their updated publication schedule. Probably it would be a good topic to be discussed during TPAC itself :)/
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i/Given/scribenick: kaz/
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i/I do not/scribenick: luca_barbato/
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q?
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12:53:05 [luca_barbato]
topic: F2F Planning
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subtopic: TPAC
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q+
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ack k
12:53:53 [luca_barbato]
kaz: We should start inviting people for the joint meeting and make sure we do not have overlaps in the breakout sessions
12:54:54 [Ege]
q+
12:54:56 [luca_barbato]
subtopic: WoT Week
12:55:19 [kaz]
s/TPAC/TPAC in September/
12:55:25 [luca_barbato]
seb: No special news, we just have to organize the plugfest, last week we had the first organization meeting
12:55:25 [kaz]
s/WoT Week/WoT Week in November/
12:55:44 [kaz]
i|We should start|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_F2F_2024_planning TPAC 2024 WoT wiki|
12:56:00 [kaz]
i|No spe|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_WoT_Week_2024_planning WoT Week wiki|
12:56:31 [kaz]
-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2024.11.Munich WoT Week Plugfest page on GitHub
12:57:29 [kaz]
q?
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ack e
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q+
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ack k
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13:00:14 [kaz]
kaz: we can invite guests to the Open Day part and Plugfest part, but should be careful to invite guests to the F2F part
13:00:25 [kaz]
ek: need to see if they can make contributions
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i/we can in/scribenick: kaz/
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scribenick: luca_barbato
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topic: Policy
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q+
13:01:31 [kaz]
-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1181 PR 1181 - Assertion id policy proposal
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ack e
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ack d
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merged
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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[adjourned]
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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