IRC log of wot on 2024-07-31
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/07/31-wot-irc
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- meeting: WoT-WG/IG
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- present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Koster, Ege_Korkan, Luca_Barbato, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima
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- present+ Kunihiko_Toumura
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- present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch
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- present+ Mahda_Noura
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- rrsagent, make log public
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/31-wot-minutes.html kaz
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- present+ Mahda_Noura
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- present+ Daniel_Peintner
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/31-wot-minutes.html kaz
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- chair: Koster
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- present+ David_Ezell
- 12:06:52 [kaz]
- agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#31_July_2024
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- 12:08:48 [kaz]
- scribenick: luca_barbato
- 12:09:20 [luca_barbato]
- topic: Minutes
- 12:10:09 [kaz]
- s/Minutes/IEs/
- 12:10:12 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:10:48 [kaz]
- ack k
- 12:11:46 [luca_barbato]
- kaz: We asked Charith if he is interested to be the TF leader for security, but more discussion should happen on the Chair call.
- 12:11:53 [luca_barbato]
- topic: Minutes
- 12:12:00 [kaz]
- -> https://www.w3.org/2024/07/24-wot-minutes.html July-24
- 12:12:24 [kaz]
- s/for security/for security and he's interested/
- 12:12:44 [luca_barbato]
- mk: Per policy they had been pre-reviewed <quickly goes through it>, if there is anything missing please tell
- 12:13:02 [kaz]
- s|Chair call|Chair's call/mailinglist about onboarding, etc.|
- 12:13:10 [kaz]
- s/more dis/some more dis/
- 12:13:59 [luca_barbato]
- <no remarks>
- 12:14:05 [luca_barbato]
- mk: Minutes approved
- 12:14:12 [luca_barbato]
- topic: Quick items
- 12:14:17 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:14:22 [kaz]
- subtopic: Smart Cities
- 12:14:46 [luca_barbato]
- kaz: I got approval and the announced should be out today or tomorrow
- 12:15:04 [luca_barbato]
- mk: We'll have a kickoff at TPAC
- 12:15:13 [luca_barbato]
- kaz: and a preparation meeting in August
- 12:15:25 [luca_barbato]
- subtopic: Planning documents
- 12:15:27 [kaz]
- s/a prep/a possible prep/
- 12:15:47 [kaz]
- -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/planning planning area
- 12:15:47 [luca_barbato]
- ege: There is a pr that I would like to merge
- 12:15:54 [kaz]
- s/a pr/a PR/
- 12:15:55 [Ege]
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1202
- 12:16:22 [kaz]
- s/https/-> https/
- 12:16:31 [kaz]
- s/1202/1202 wot PR 1202 - TD Planning Reorganization/
- 12:16:38 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/31-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 12:17:31 [kaz]
- s/the announced/the AC announcement/
- 12:17:34 [luca_barbato]
- ege: <describes the PR>
- 12:18:17 [luca_barbato]
- ege: The plan is to keep the README.md to hold the links to the other TF repos and their planning documents
- 12:18:40 [luca_barbato]
- mk: I do not see anything controversial, shall we merge it now?
- 12:18:46 [kaz]
- q?
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- ack k
- 12:19:00 [luca_barbato]
- <everybody is fine>
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- <merged>
- 12:19:36 [luca_barbato]
- subtopic: Adopter list
- 12:19:37 [Ege]
- q+
- 12:19:42 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:20:35 [luca_barbato]
- ege: There was a small misunderstanding, the preliminary conclusion is to have Marketing TF to have a resolution on moving the activity to the CG
- 12:20:42 [kaz]
- ack e
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- qq+ McCool
- 12:20:57 [luca_barbato]
- ... Tomorrow Marketing meeting attendance is welcome
- 12:21:45 [luca_barbato]
- mm: We have to make clear the activity is from the Community and not the Working Group activity
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- q- m
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- q- k
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- q+
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- ack k
- 12:23:26 [luca_barbato]
- mk: Can we have a resolution to link that page?
- 12:23:29 [luca_barbato]
- q+
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- q-
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- q+
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- ack dape
- 12:24:21 [kaz]
- i/Can we/kaz: let's clarify the WoT-IG resolution about this next Wednesday after the Marketing TF resolution, and then bring our proposal to the MarComm Team./
- 12:24:27 [kaz]
- i/let's cl/scribenick: kaz/
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- i/Can we/scribenick: luca_barbato/
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- q?
- 12:24:57 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/31-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 12:25:08 [luca_barbato]
- topic: Notices
- 12:25:15 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/31-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 12:25:23 [luca_barbato]
- mk: Any notice to bring up?
- 12:25:23 [luca_barbato]
- <none>
- 12:25:26 [luca_barbato]
- topic: Meetups
- 12:25:31 [kaz]
- i/Notices/scribenick: kaz/
- 12:25:36 [Ege]
- q+
- 12:25:49 [kaz]
- i/Notices/mm: should have TF resolution first and then IG resolution./
- 12:25:59 [luca_barbato]
- ege: There will be a CG meetup the 19th September
- 12:26:06 [kaz]
- i/Notices/kaz: right. so let's make a resolution next Wednesday./
- 12:26:14 [luca_barbato]
- ... it is about a control system for lab lasers
- 12:26:21 [kaz]
- i/Any no/scribenick: luca_barbato/
- 12:26:27 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/31-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 12:26:39 [kaz]
- q?
- 12:26:42 [kaz]
- ack e
- 12:27:15 [luca_barbato]
- miz: Last Friday the JP CG we had an use-case event in which we presented the UC template
- 12:27:23 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/31-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 12:27:37 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:27:44 [luca_barbato]
- ... The next event we plan to provide UCs, event to be planned
- 12:28:03 [kaz]
- q-
- 12:28:05 [luca_barbato]
- kaz: Last Friday was a preparation meeting with the Core Members
- 12:28:14 [kaz]
- i/There will/subtopic: WoT CG/
- 12:28:20 [luca_barbato]
- topic: Liasons
- 12:28:27 [kaz]
- i/Last Fri/subtopic: WoT JP CG/
- 12:28:34 [kaz]
- subtopic: OPC Foundation
- 12:28:39 [luca_barbato]
- mk: Yesterday there was an OPC kickoff meeting
- 12:29:08 [luca_barbato]
- seb: We had different topic to discuss
- 12:29:21 [kaz]
- s/Core Members/Core Members, and they need to think about the schedule and logistics for the actual use case event from now./
- 12:29:23 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/31-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 12:29:56 [kaz]
- s/topic to/topics to/
- 12:29:57 [luca_barbato]
- ... we had an introduction with many participant from the industry and also Jan since his university is also a member of OPC
- 12:30:14 [kaz]
- s/OPC kick/OPC UA Binding WG kick/
- 12:30:18 [luca_barbato]
- ... ege presented the capabilities of TD
- 12:30:25 [kaz]
- s/ege p/Ege p/
- 12:31:05 [luca_barbato]
- ... the plugfest will be the first milestone to test the binding
- 12:31:32 [luca_barbato]
- ... it is a bi-weekly meeting, but Augustu will be skipped due vacations
- 12:32:33 [luca_barbato]
- seb: It took me about 3 years to get it started, but now we are progressing quickly
- 12:32:36 [mjk]
- q?
- 12:33:01 [luca_barbato]
- ... The next meeting it 10th of September, you are welcome to join
- 12:34:19 [kaz]
- s/it 10/is 10/
- 12:34:42 [kaz]
- s/Augustu/August/
- 12:34:50 [kaz]
- s/to join/to join, McCool/
- 12:35:04 [kaz]
- subtopic: ETSI
- 12:35:08 [luca_barbato]
- subtopic: ETSI ISG
- 12:35:36 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:35:39 [luca_barbato]
- mk: We added the liasion and we have a bi-weekly meeting
- 12:36:02 [kaz]
- s/subtopic: ETSI ISG/@@@/
- 12:36:05 [kaz]
- s/subtopic: ETSI//
- 12:36:24 [luca_barbato]
- mm: Once we have an agreement can expand the meeting topics and scope
- 12:36:31 [kaz]
- s/@@@/subtopic: ETSI ISG CIM/
- 12:36:40 [luca_barbato]
- topic: Schedule
- 12:36:48 [kaz]
- s/can exp/we can exp/
- 12:37:20 [kaz]
- s/scope/scope and involve group participants in addition to the Chairs/
- 12:37:22 [kaz]
- q-
- 12:37:24 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:37:55 [kaz]
- q-
- 12:38:19 [luca_barbato]
- kaz: lets cancel 12-16
- 12:38:27 [luca_barbato]
- <everybody approves>
- 12:38:29 [kaz]
- s/lets/let's/
- 12:39:25 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:39:29 [luca_barbato]
- q+
- 12:39:59 [luca_barbato]
- kaz: Regarding TPAC, personally I prefer having a break after TPAC
- 12:40:13 [kaz]
- ack k
- 12:40:58 [kaz]
- ack lu
- 12:42:52 [luca_barbato]
- lu: We could send an email to make sure we have enough people for the meetings 19~30 August, We have the plugfest preparation meeting that's precious
- 12:42:55 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:43:30 [kaz]
- ack k
- 12:45:14 [luca_barbato]
- mk: The proposal is to have meetings in the Aug 5th week, and cancel the other August weeks
- 12:45:28 [luca_barbato]
- mk: In September we focus on TPAC and plugfest preparation
- 12:46:22 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
- 12:46:23 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/31-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 12:46:35 [luca_barbato]
- topic: F2F meeting
- 12:47:08 [kaz]
- s/F2F meeting/Schedule/
- 12:47:11 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:47:31 [luca_barbato]
- mm: We should make sure to meet the milestones
- 12:47:58 [kaz]
- i|We should|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/planning/schedule.md schedule.md|
- 12:48:04 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
- 12:48:05 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/31-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 12:48:27 [luca_barbato]
- mm: Discovery is at risk since the works are on hold
- 12:48:30 [kaz]
- s/topic: Schedule/topic: Publication schedule/
- 12:48:41 [kaz]
- s/topic: Schedule/topic: Meeting schedule/
- 12:48:43 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
- 12:48:44 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/31-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 12:48:58 [luca_barbato]
- mm: but some of it blocked on TD 2.0
- 12:49:14 [luca_barbato]
- ... once it is ready Discovery would need some adaptations
- 12:49:22 [Ege]
- q+
- 12:49:43 [luca_barbato]
- mk: So we need to have everything ready by TPAC if possible
- 12:50:20 [kaz]
- ack k
- 12:50:48 [luca_barbato]
- ege: I do not think the TD milestone is realistic at this point
- 12:52:29 [kaz]
- i/I do not/kaz: Given we have only 10 more minutes today, let's ask all the Editors to start to think about their updated publication schedule. Probably it would be a good topic to be discussed during TPAC itself :)/
- 12:52:36 [kaz]
- i/Given/scribenick: kaz/
- 12:52:44 [kaz]
- i/I do not/scribenick: luca_barbato/
- 12:52:47 [kaz]
- q?
- 12:52:48 [kaz]
- ack e
- 12:52:55 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/31-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 12:53:05 [luca_barbato]
- topic: F2F Planning
- 12:53:10 [kaz]
- subtopic: TPAC
- 12:53:20 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:53:52 [kaz]
- ack k
- 12:53:53 [luca_barbato]
- kaz: We should start inviting people for the joint meeting and make sure we do not have overlaps in the breakout sessions
- 12:54:54 [Ege]
- q+
- 12:54:56 [luca_barbato]
- subtopic: WoT Week
- 12:55:19 [kaz]
- s/TPAC/TPAC in September/
- 12:55:25 [luca_barbato]
- seb: No special news, we just have to organize the plugfest, last week we had the first organization meeting
- 12:55:25 [kaz]
- s/WoT Week/WoT Week in November/
- 12:55:44 [kaz]
- i|We should start|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_F2F_2024_planning TPAC 2024 WoT wiki|
- 12:56:00 [kaz]
- i|No spe|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_WoT_Week_2024_planning WoT Week wiki|
- 12:56:31 [kaz]
- -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2024.11.Munich WoT Week Plugfest page on GitHub
- 12:57:29 [kaz]
- q?
- 12:57:32 [kaz]
- ack e
- 12:58:33 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:59:04 [kaz]
- ack k
- 12:59:39 [Ege]
- q+
- 13:00:14 [kaz]
- kaz: we can invite guests to the Open Day part and Plugfest part, but should be careful to invite guests to the F2F part
- 13:00:25 [kaz]
- ek: need to see if they can make contributions
- 13:00:32 [kaz]
- i/we can in/scribenick: kaz/
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- scribenick: luca_barbato
- 13:00:45 [kaz]
- topic: Policy
- 13:01:03 [dezell]
- q+
- 13:01:31 [kaz]
- -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1181 PR 1181 - Assertion id policy proposal
- 13:01:33 [kaz]
- ack e
- 13:01:34 [kaz]
- ack d
- 13:01:40 [kaz]
- merged
- 13:02:07 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- 13:02:44 [kaz]
- [adjourned]
- 13:02:45 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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