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13:51:58 <addison> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
13:52:09 <addison> Chair: Addison Phillips
13:52:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/25-i18n-minutes.html addison
13:52:24 <addison> agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/b40424a9-1664-4b61-965c-27712bb6a648/20240725T150000/
13:52:24 <agendabot> clear agenda
13:52:24 <agendabot> agenda+ Agenda Review
13:52:24 <agendabot> agenda+ Action Items
13:52:24 <agendabot> agenda+ Info Share
13:52:24 <agendabot> agenda+ RADAR Review
13:52:26 <agendabot> agenda+ Pending Issue Review
13:52:28 <agendabot> agenda+ Prepare for WHATNOT call
13:52:31 <agendabot> agenda+ AOB?
13:52:37 <addison> agenda+ This week's publications
13:52:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/25-i18n-minutes.html addison
14:05:14 <addison> present+ Addison, Richard, Atsushi, Bert
14:07:11 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 1
14:07:11 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:07:13 <addison> agenda?
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14:07:53 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 2
14:07:53 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Action Items -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:08:10 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues
14:08:31 <addison> #112
14:08:32 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/112 -> Action 112  investigate changes to jlreq due to publication of jpan-lreq (on himorin) due 2024-07-25
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14:11:35 <addison> atsushi: there's a question if there's a fundamental, there should be some answer
14:11:56 <addison> ... wonder if i should work on there
14:12:00 <r12a> q+
14:12:04 <addison> ... it's a philosophy issue
14:12:08 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/jlreq/issues/438#issuecomment-2247356510
14:12:08 <addison> ack next
14:12:09 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/jlreq/issues/438 -> Issue 438 Japanese Script Resources page (by r12a)
14:12:30 <addison> richard: responded to some questions from kida-san, responded ^
14:12:33 <atsushi_> addison: how about jlreq to -lreq document
14:12:57 <addison> scribe+ atsushi_
14:13:16 <atsushi_> r12a: asked Kida-san about mapping bwtween jlreq documents and new -lreq documents
14:15:12 <addison> atsushi: there is some question about the scope between the two documents
14:15:46 <addison> ... want to maybe mirror structure of arabic or latin requirements
14:16:07 <addison> richard: they can do what they want; organization of original doc could maybe be improved
14:16:39 <addison> ... not need to adopt the 89 heads in lreq
14:18:21 <addison> addison: perhaps do a cross-over call; suspect just a misunderstanding
14:19:44 <addison> atsushi: seems like there ... there might be some ??? eastern languages support; could be the cause for ???
14:20:30 <addison> richard: made a long comment
14:20:43 <addison> atsushi: don't think comment will solve
14:21:13 <addison> richard: don't really "care"; they can do it their own way, do whatever they want; they _can_ use the structure but not required
14:21:39 <addison> ... treat langauges, not just scripts, and it works fine for all sorts of languages
14:22:00 <addison> ... up to kida-san whatever he wants to do, can link to sections in the document
14:22:18 <addison> ... it's one reason I split out jlreq docs from the other ones so we have
14:22:37 <addison> ... let's see what kida-san says; if further misunderstanding can follow up
14:26:30 <addison> #106
14:26:31 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/106 -> Action 106  write to ietf group about rfc9457 (on aphillips) due 2024-06-20
14:26:31 <atsushi_> scribe+
14:26:40 <addison> #90
14:26:41 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/90 -> Action 90  steal some of henri's text from scroll-to-text-fragment for string-search (on aphillips) due 2024-04-18
14:26:45 <atsushi_> addison: not finishwd #108
14:26:46 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/108 -> CLOSED Action 108  talk to jlreq about *default* behavior of line breaking with small kana (cf. csswg-drafts#10363) (on himorin) due 2024-06-25
14:26:48 <addison> #89
14:26:49 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/89 -> Action 89  update i18n specs to support dark mode (on xfq) due 2024-04-18
14:26:54 <addison> #79
14:26:55 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/79 -> Action 79  schedule a follow-up call with WHATNOT (on aphillips) due 2024-03-07
14:28:33 <atsushi_> addison: 4pm today  for WHATWG call
14:29:01 <addison> close #79
14:29:03 <gb> Closed -> issue #79 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/79
14:29:16 <addison> #33
14:29:16 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/33 -> Action 33 Close issues marked `close?` or bring to WG for further review (on aphillips)
14:29:26 <addison> #8
14:29:27 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/8 -> Action 8 Follow up on the status of Canvas and formatted text (on aphillips) due 18 Jul 2023
14:29:30 <addison> #7
14:29:30 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/7 -> Action 7 Remind shepherds to tend to their awaiting comment resolutions (Evergreen) (on aphillips, xfq, himorin, r12a, bert-github) due 18 Jul 2023
14:29:51 <addison> #4
14:29:52 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/4 -> Action 4 Work with respec and bikeshed to provide the character markup template as easy-to-use markup (on aphillips, r12a) due 27 Jul 2023
14:30:11 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 3
14:30:11 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Info Share -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:31:24 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/wiki/LReq-documents
14:31:25 <atsushi_> r12a: now have lots of documents retires
14:32:37 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 4
14:32:37 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- RADAR Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:32:47 <addison> https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/91/views/1
14:33:06 <atsushi_> addison: two incoming requests
14:33:27 <atsushi_> bert: looking into
14:33:58 <atsushi_> ... will take
14:34:32 <atsushi_> atsushi: will do for IFT
14:35:06 <Bert> s/will take/will take ACT Rules Format 1.1
14:35:46 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 5
14:35:46 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Pending Issue Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:35:56 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Apending
14:36:18 <atsushi_> addison: incoming checklist for IFT, will be checked by atsushi
14:36:33 <atsushi_> ... xfq has pending one also[
14:36:50 <addison> agenda?
14:36:58 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 8
14:36:58 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- This week's publications -- taken up [from addison]
14:37:21 <addison> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2024JulSep/0027.html
14:37:27 <r12a>     grek-lreq https://w3c.github.io/eurlreq/grek
14:37:27 <r12a>     gujr-lreq https://w3c.github.io/iip/gujr/
14:37:27 <r12a>     taml-lreq https://w3c.github.io/iip/tamil/
14:37:29 <r12a>     java-lreq https://w3c.github.io/sealreq/java/
14:38:03 <atsushi_> r12a: published seveal
14:38:12 <r12a> https://w3c.github.io/amlreq/cher/index.html
14:38:19 <r12a> https://w3c.github.io/amlreq/cans/index.html
14:38:26 <r12a> https://w3c.github.io/amlreq/osge/index.html
14:38:53 <atsushi_> ... mostly the same documents with some different links
14:40:48 <addison> PROPOSED: shall the nine new script-based lreq documents be approved for FPWD
14:40:52 <r12a> +1
14:40:53 <addison> +1
14:40:56 <Bert> +1
14:41:15 <atsushi_> +1
14:41:19 <addison> RESOLVED: publish nine new script-based lreq documents mentioned in the minutes for FPWD
14:41:40 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 6
14:41:40 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Prepare for WHATNOT call -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:41:56 <addison> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/10496
14:41:56 <gb> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/10496 -> Issue 10496 Upcoming WHATNOT meeting on 2024-07-25 (by past) [agenda+]
14:42:19 <atsushi_> addison: upcoming whatnot call, pushed as above issue
14:42:35 <addison> https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/5799
14:42:36 <gb> https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/5799 -> Pull Request 5799 Fix #4562: add support for internationalized email addresses (by aphillips) [addition/proposal] [needs implementer interest] [topic: forms] [i18n-tracker] [agenda+]
14:42:37 <atsushi_> ... cleaned up that PR
14:43:15 <r12a> zakim, draft minutes
14:43:15 <Zakim> I don't understand 'draft minutes', r12a
14:43:35 <r12a> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:43:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/25-i18n-minutes.html r12a
14:44:21 <atsushi_> addison: another topic on i18n-glossary and topics
14:44:33 <atsushi_> ... several weesk ago, we discussed on this
14:45:14 <atsushi_> ... our documents are non normative document, but most of referrering document does not need to do
14:45:21 <atsushi_> .. just to use definitions
14:45:45 <atsushi_> ... conflict with INFRA are code points related terminology
14:46:08 <atsushi_> ... and kinds of UTF-16 kinds of words
14:46:23 <atsushi_> ... code unit values and schema related
14:46:55 <atsushi_> ... they are not correctly , but they focues on usage within UTF016
14:47:51 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3AAgenda%2BI18N%2BWHATWG
14:48:02 <atsushi_> RESOLVED
14:49:09 <atsushi_> addison: open issue on directions as above issues
14:50:17 <atsushi_> addison: another slot is right after this, so potential next slot should be next month
14:50:26 <addison> agenda?
14:50:36 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 7
14:50:36 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- AOB? -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:51:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/25-i18n-minutes.html addison
14:52:07 <addison> regrets+ Fuqiao
14:52:10 <addison> scribe+
14:52:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/25-i18n-minutes.html addison
14:52:40 <addison> zakim, bye
14:52:40 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Addison, Richard, Atsushi, Bert
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