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13:53:25 <Steven> Meeting: XForms Group Weekly Teleconference
13:53:25 <Steven> Chair: Steven
13:53:55 <Steven> revious Meeting: https://www.w3.org/2024/05/31-forms-minutes
13:54:08 <Steven> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2024Jul/0001
13:54:27 <Steven> s/revious/Previous/
13:54:40 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
13:54:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/19-forms-minutes.html Steven
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13:59:47 <Steven> Present: Alain, Erik, Steven
14:02:09 <Steven> Topic: Prague report [No link]
14:02:27 <Steven> Steven: I gave the advanced XForms tutorial there.
14:02:36 <Steven> ... only 90 mins
14:03:03 <Steven> ... I'm rewriting it now based on the experience.
14:03:11 <Steven> Topic: Croatia report [No link]
14:03:19 <Steven> Steven: I talked at the web summer camp
14:04:32 <Steven> ... talked about XForms amongst ohter things, I opened the conference
14:04:41 <Steven> Topic: Coming meetings [No link; regrets from Steven for 25th]
14:04:57 <Steven> Steven: I'm not here next week.
14:05:17 <Steven> Alain: I away until mid-August
14:05:34 <Steven> Erik: I am around from now on
14:05:43 <Steven> Alain: 23rd I'll be back
14:06:41 <Steven> Steven: I'm not sure of availability in Septembe - I'm giving the usual XForms course in Oxford
14:06:58 <Steven> s/Septembe/September
14:07:07 <Steven> Erik: I won't be coming to Oxford
14:07:35 <Steven> Topic: ACTION Steven MIPs on controls
14:07:35 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2024Jun/0005
14:08:57 <Steven> Erik: My expectation is that it only impacts the control
14:09:23 <Steven> Alain: I agree
14:09:49 <Steven> Steven: I'm glad, because that's what I want, but I needed to be sure we all agreed!
14:10:08 <Steven> Topic: ACTION Steven MIPs and trigger
14:10:08 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2024Jun/0006
14:10:56 <Steven> Steven: My original question - https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2024Jun/0001.html
14:12:07 <Steven> Steven: I need to know what "not activatable" means.
14:21:18 <Steven> Erik: There is no default handler for a trigger.
14:21:40 <Steven> Steven: So a listener has to take account of readonly itself.
14:23:39 <Steven> Alain: I'd prefer for a trigger not to respond to a DOMActivate automatically
14:23:53 <Steven> Eri: It's more than ignore, a trigger doesn't do anything.
14:24:10 <Steven> s/Eri:/Erik:/
14:24:27 <Steven> Erik: It will receive the event, and it would have to ignore it
14:24:31 <Steven> Alain: Yes cancel it
14:27:32 <Steven> [Discussion]
14:27:46 <Steven> Erik: Not cancel but propagate="stop"
14:28:15 <Steven> Alain: Why just triggers? readonly on any control.
14:28:43 <Steven> Erik: I'm not sure about what should happen in general
14:29:04 <Steven> ... I see how it could be handled for trigger in particular.
14:29:21 <Steven> ... It makes event handling aware of controls.
14:29:55 <Steven> \... I'm not sold on the need
14:30:49 <Steven> Steven: I know enough for now to work on it further.
14:31:18 <Steven> Topic: AOB
14:31:32 <Steven> Steven: Next meeting 23rd August
14:31:57 <Steven> [ADJOURN]
14:32:02 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
14:32:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/19-forms-minutes.html Steven
14:32:33 <Steven> s/ohter/other
14:33:33 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
14:33:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/19-forms-minutes.html Steven
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