IRC log of wot on 2024-07-17
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/07/17-wot-irc
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- meeting: WoT-WG/IG
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- present+ Mahda_Noura
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- present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Luca_Barbato Charith_Perela_(Guest), Kunihiko_Toumura, Mahda_Noura
- 12:02:17 [dezell]
- present+ David_Ezell
- 12:03:21 [luca_barbato]
- https://www.w3.org/2024/07/webtransport-wg-charter.html
- 12:04:05 [kaz]
- s|https://www.w3.org/2024/07/webtransport-wg-charter.html||
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- agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#17_July_2024
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- rrsagent, make log public
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/17-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 12:05:02 [McCool0]
- https://www.w3.org/2003/12/22-pp-faq.html#non-participants
- 12:05:25 [kaz]
- present+ Jan_Romann, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima
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- regrets+ Koster, Ege
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- present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch
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- chair: McCool, Sebastian
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- scribenick: sebastian
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- topic: Guests
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/17-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 12:07:15 [sebastian]
- MM: are you agree with W3C patent policy?
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- CP: yes
- 12:08:38 [kaz]
- s/are you/do you/
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- topic: Minutes
- 12:09:01 [sebastian]
- MM: Charith will give a presentation. We will see how he can contribute to our specs
- 12:09:02 [kaz]
- -> https://www.w3.org/2024/07/10-wot-minutes.html July-10
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- s/topic: Minutes//
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- i|https|topic: Minutes|
- 12:09:29 [sebastian]
- <MM shows the minutes from last week>
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- q+
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- ack k
- 12:10:34 [sebastian]
- MM: there seen a wrong date for the Profil call. Luca can you confirm?
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- s/seen/seems
- 12:11:14 [kaz]
- q+
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- s/wrong/strange
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- ack k
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- topic: Quick Items
- 12:12:08 [sebastian]
- MM: any news about Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities IG ?
- 12:12:27 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:12:36 [sebastian]
- Kaz: still waiting for response
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- q-
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- topic: Meetups
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- MM: any news?
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- <no responses>
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- q-
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- MM: WoT JP CG plans a Use Case event for July 26
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- ack k
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- topic: Guest Presentation
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- <CP shows slides>
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- present+ Daniel_Peintner
- 12:16:00 [sebastian]
- CP: I'm from Sri Lanka. Did my PhD in Australia
- 12:16:01 [kaz]
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/17-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 12:16:47 [sebastian]
- ... now I'm in the UK and a Reader (Associate Professor) at the Cardiff University
- 12:16:47 [kaz]
- s/topic: Guests/
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- i|non-par|topic: Guests|
- 12:16:57 [kaz]
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/17-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 12:18:25 [sebastian]
- ... have experiences in smart home engineering and did building research
- 12:19:48 [sebastian]
- ... my academic focuses on, e.g., on privacy fluid
- 12:21:08 [sebastian]
- ... help people to adopt privacy principle
- 12:21:44 [sebastian]
- s/principle/principles
- 12:23:47 [sebastian]
- ... I'm leading an interdisciplinary team for forest observatory.
- 12:26:43 [sebastian]
- ... for the topic resilientsensing we uses the knowledge of sensors and network traffic and how they could put together
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- 12:28:11 [sebastian]
- ... I have also had a project in the Smart City domain. There we used also semantic web technologies.
- 12:28:54 [sebastian]
- ... in Cardiff we have a IoT lab
- 12:29:02 [McCool0]
- q?
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- q+
- 12:29:19 [sebastian]
- MM: you have also security experiences, right?
- 12:29:24 [sebastian]
- CP: yes
- 12:30:09 [sebastian]
- MM: which spec would you be interest in WoT?
- 12:30:47 [kaz]
- q?
- 12:31:00 [luca_barbato]
- q+
- 12:31:17 [sebastian]
- CP: Security would be relevant. Architecture would be also relevant
- 12:31:50 [sebastian]
- SK: What is your motivation for beeing here and to contribute to WoT?
- 12:33:12 [sebastian]
- Kaz: we need to clarify the details offline
- 12:33:20 [kaz]
- q-
- 12:33:46 [sebastian]
- LB: are you also interest in implementation work?
- 12:34:25 [sebastian]
- CP: Maybe. I need to understand this more first.
- 12:35:13 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- 12:35:20 [McCool0]
- q?
- 12:35:20 [sebastian]
- MM: we have, eg., PlugFests. It's not manditory to contribute but would be welcome
- 12:35:20 [kaz]
- s/interest in/interested in/
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- ack l
- 12:35:44 [sebastian]
- CP: thank you
- 12:36:01 [sebastian]
- topic: Collaboration
- 12:36:40 [kaz]
- -> https://www.w3.org/2024/07/webtransport-wg-charter.html WebTrasnport WG Charter
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- -> https://www.w3.org/TR/webtransport/ WebTransport REC
- 12:36:58 [sebastian]
- MM: there is a new charter
- 12:37:03 [kaz]
- s/REC/spec/
- 12:37:07 [luca_barbato]
- q+
- 12:37:23 [kaz]
- s/Charter/Proposed Charter/
- 12:37:23 [sebastian]
- ... question is if we should also show up there as group?
- 12:38:14 [kaz]
- q?
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- q+
- 12:38:23 [sebastian]
- ... suggestion should come from a memebr and not from the group
- 12:38:36 [sebastian]
- Kaz: there is no special rule or policy for this
- 12:40:02 [sebastian]
- ... we should ask Luca's expectation
- 12:41:08 [sebastian]
- LB: the charter may get bit stronger when we interest our interest in this technology
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- s/interest/sharing
- 12:41:52 [kaz]
- ack lu
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- ack k
- 12:42:09 [sebastian]
- MM: ok, it's technical related since they also using WebSockets
- 12:42:43 [luca_barbato]
- https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/445
- 12:42:51 [sebastian]
- ... would also suggest to add WoT to the collaboration
- 12:43:16 [kaz]
- -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2024JulSep/0006.html call for review for WebTransport WG Charter (Member-only)
- 12:43:24 [McCool0]
- proposal: Request Web-Transport WG to add a collaboration with Web of Things WG to their WG charter.
- 12:43:40 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:43:43 [sebastian]
- MM: any objection?
- 12:43:53 [JKRhb]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- 12:44:42 [sebastian]
- Kaz: we should confirm everybody's opinion.
- 12:46:13 [sebastian]
- ... support stronger cooperation with browser integration
- 12:46:52 [McCool0]
- q?
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- ack k
- 12:47:00 [sebastian]
- MM: I think it is worth to talk about
- 12:47:21 [kaz]
- s/support stronger cooperation with browser integration/I myself am totally fine with this possible collaboration, because I've been suggesting we should work on stronger support for browser integration, though./
- 12:47:27 [kaz]
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/17-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 12:48:53 [sebastian]
- DK: I do not have strong opinion.
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- q+
- 12:49:36 [sebastian]
- MM: document is still under review
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- 12:50:30 [McCool0]
- proposal: Request Web-Transport WG to add a collaboration with Web of Things WG to their WG charter.
- 12:50:34 [sebastian]
- ... I woud support due to visibility
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- s/woud/would
- 12:51:10 [sebastian]
- Kaz: comments can be also be given via AC reviews
- 12:51:45 [dezell2]
- I support the need for visibility. I will comment as an AC rep.
- 12:52:24 [McCool0]
- proposal: Request (via WoT WG member who is an AC rep) Web-Transport WG to add a collaboration with Web of Things WG to their WG charter.
- 12:52:27 [sebastian]
- MM: we can do a resolution. Someone else (AC rep) take the action.
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- q+
- 12:52:33 [sebastian]
- LB: I will do it
- 12:53:10 [kaz]
- s/comments can be also be given via AC reviews/given it's already on the official AC review, we need to clarify the action also (i.e., somebody from us as an AC rep gives a comment about that)/
- 12:53:11 [kaz]
- q-
- 12:53:12 [McCool0]
- proposal: Request (via WoT WG member who is an AC rep - Luca Barbato has volunteered) Web-Transport WG to add a collaboration with Web of Things WG to their WG charter.
- 12:53:23 [sebastian]
- MM: any objections?
- 12:53:28 [sebastian]
- no
- 12:53:32 [McCool0]
- resolution: Request (via WoT WG member who is an AC rep - Luca Barbato has volunteered) Web-Transport WG to add a collaboration with Web of Things WG to their WG charter.
- 12:53:38 [JKRhb]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/17-wot-minutes.html JKRhb
- 12:54:01 [sebastian]
- LB: I will update my review on the Charter
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- DK: I will also mention WoT in my review
- 12:54:43 [sebastian]
- ... any issue with it?
- 12:54:47 [sebastian]
- MM: no
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- topic: Liaisons
- 12:55:39 [sebastian]
- MM: established a liaison with ETSI ISG CIM (NGSI-LD)
- 12:55:50 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:55:56 [kaz]
- ack de
- 12:56:37 [sebastian]
- ... there meetings every 2 weeks
- 12:57:46 [sebastian]
- SK: there is a kick-off meeting of the new OPC Foundation WG "UA Binding for Web of Things" in 2 weeks (30 July)
- 12:57:57 [kaz]
- q-
- 12:57:59 [sebastian]
- MM: only OPCF Members can join
- 12:58:42 [kaz]
- kaz: we ourselves (WoT WG) need to clarify our expectation for OPC Binding and Binding Template registry for that purpose
- 12:58:44 [sebastian]
- Kaz: need to clarify the exchange. Still working on the liaisons contact page
- 12:58:50 [dape]
- q+
- 12:59:06 [sebastian]
- topic: Schedule
- 12:59:14 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/17-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 12:59:39 [sebastian]
- --> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Cancellations_and_Schedule_Updates
- 12:59:48 [kaz]
- q+
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- ack d
- 12:59:54 [sebastian]
- DP: tomorrow there will be no TD and Marketing call
- 13:00:23 [sebastian]
- Kaz: today there is a TD call about TD tooling
- 13:01:14 [sebastian]
- LB: I send an email about yesterdays Profile outcomes
- 13:01:31 [sebastian]
- topic: F2F Planning
- 13:01:59 [kaz]
- s/TD tooling/TD tooling, while no TD call tomorrow/
- 13:02:06 [sebastian]
- subtopic: TPAC
- 13:02:33 [sebastian]
- <MM shows status of breakouts topics>
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- --> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_F2F_2024_planning
- 13:02:47 [kaz]
- i/F2F/kaz: we should clarify how to organize the Profile call, one whole hour or half an hour, weekly or bi-weekly./
- 13:03:23 [sebastian]
- topic: Marketing
- 13:03:49 [kaz]
- s/Marketing/WoT Week in November/
- 13:03:59 [kaz]
- -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_WoT_Week_2024_planning WoT Week wiki
- 13:04:14 [kaz]
- topic: Plugfest call
- 13:04:26 [sebastian]
- MM: there is a dicussion about the WoT supporters for the web page
- 13:04:39 [kaz]
- s/topic: Plugfest call//
- 13:04:46 [kaz]
- topic: Plugfest call
- 13:05:25 [kaz]
- sk: we'll resume the Plugfest call next Wednesday
- 13:05:30 [sebastian]
- SK: next week there will restart the PlugFest meeting to organize the PlugFest for the WoT week
- 13:05:38 [kaz]
- s/sk: we'll resume the Plugfest call next Wednesday//
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- q+
- 13:06:23 [sebastian]
- MM: there is a conflict with the Profile call.
- 13:06:32 [sebastian]
- ... need to cancel it next week
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- ack k
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- ... PlugFest meeting next week is a non-recurring meeting
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- i/PlugFest/note that Plugfest/
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- [adjourned]
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