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12:01:42 <kaz> meeting: WoT-WG/IG
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12:02:13 <mahda> present+ Mahda_Noura
12:02:13 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Luca_Barbato Charith_Perela_(Guest), Kunihiko_Toumura, Mahda_Noura
12:02:17 <dezell> present+ David_Ezell
12:03:21 <luca_barbato> https://www.w3.org/2024/07/webtransport-wg-charter.html
12:04:05 <kaz> s|https://www.w3.org/2024/07/webtransport-wg-charter.html||
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12:04:33 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#17_July_2024
12:04:39 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:04:44 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:04:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/17-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:05:02 <McCool0> https://www.w3.org/2003/12/22-pp-faq.html#non-participants
12:05:25 <kaz> present+ Jan_Romann, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:05:31 <kaz> regrets+ Koster, Ege
12:05:46 <kaz> present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch
12:05:56 <kaz> chair: McCool, Sebastian
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12:06:19 <kaz> scribenick: sebastian
12:06:51 <sebastian> topic: Guests
12:06:54 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:06:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/17-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:07:15 <sebastian> MM: are you agree with W3C patent policy?
12:07:32 <sebastian> CP: yes
12:08:38 <kaz> s/are you/do you/
12:08:58 <kaz> topic: Minutes
12:09:01 <sebastian> MM: Charith will give a presentation. We will see how he can contribute to our specs
12:09:02 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2024/07/10-wot-minutes.html July-10
12:09:10 <kaz> s/topic: Minutes//
12:09:19 <kaz> i|https|topic: Minutes|
12:09:29 <sebastian> <MM shows the minutes from last week>
12:09:56 <kaz> q+
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12:10:32 <kaz> ack k
12:10:34 <sebastian> MM: there seen a wrong date for the Profil call. Luca can you confirm?
12:10:40 <sebastian> s/seen/seems
12:11:14 <kaz> q+
12:11:25 <sebastian> s/wrong/strange
12:11:54 <kaz> ack k
12:11:54 <sebastian> topic: Quick Items
12:12:08 <sebastian> MM: any news about Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities IG ?
12:12:27 <kaz> q+
12:12:36 <sebastian> Kaz: still waiting for response
12:12:46 <kaz> q-
12:13:03 <sebastian> topic: Meetups
12:13:10 <sebastian> MM: any news?
12:13:23 <sebastian> <no responses>
12:13:33 <kaz> q+
12:14:03 <kaz> q-
12:14:14 <sebastian> MM: WoT JP CG  plans a Use Case event for July 26
12:14:52 <kaz> ack k
12:14:55 <sebastian> topic: Guest Presentation
12:15:10 <sebastian> <CP shows slides>
12:15:39 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner
12:16:00 <sebastian> CP: I'm from Sri Lanka. Did my PhD in Australia
12:16:01 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:16:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/17-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:16:47 <sebastian> ... now I'm in the UK and a Reader (Associate Professor) at the Cardiff University
12:16:47 <kaz> s/topic: Guests/
12:16:54 <kaz> i|non-par|topic: Guests|
12:16:57 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:16:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/17-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:18:25 <sebastian> ... have experiences in smart home engineering and did building research
12:19:48 <sebastian> ... my academic focuses on, e.g., on privacy fluid
12:21:08 <sebastian> ... help people to adopt privacy principle
12:21:44 <sebastian> s/principle/principles
12:23:47 <sebastian> ... I'm leading an interdisciplinary team for forest observatory.
12:26:43 <sebastian> ... for the topic resilientsensing we uses the knowledge of sensors and network traffic and how they could put together
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12:28:11 <sebastian> ... I have also had a project in the Smart City domain. There we used also semantic web technologies.
12:28:54 <sebastian> ... in Cardiff we have a IoT lab
12:29:02 <McCool0> q?
12:29:09 <kaz> q+
12:29:19 <sebastian> MM: you have also security experiences, right?
12:29:24 <sebastian> CP: yes
12:30:09 <sebastian> MM: which spec would you be interest in WoT?
12:30:47 <kaz> q?
12:31:00 <luca_barbato> q+
12:31:17 <sebastian> CP: Security would be relevant. Architecture would be also relevant
12:31:50 <sebastian> SK: What is your motivation for beeing here and to contribute to WoT?
12:33:12 <sebastian> Kaz: we need to clarify the details offline
12:33:20 <kaz> q-
12:33:46 <sebastian> LB: are you also interest in implementation work?
12:34:25 <sebastian> CP: Maybe. I need to understand this more first.
12:35:13 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:35:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/17-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:35:20 <McCool0> q?
12:35:20 <sebastian> MM: we have, eg., PlugFests. It's not manditory to contribute but would be welcome
12:35:20 <kaz> s/interest in/interested in/
12:35:20 <McCool0> ack l
12:35:44 <sebastian> CP: thank you
12:36:01 <sebastian> topic: Collaboration
12:36:40 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2024/07/webtransport-wg-charter.html WebTrasnport WG Charter
12:36:52 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/webtransport/ WebTransport REC
12:36:58 <sebastian> MM: there is a new charter
12:37:03 <kaz> s/REC/spec/
12:37:07 <luca_barbato> q+
12:37:23 <kaz> s/Charter/Proposed Charter/
12:37:23 <sebastian> ... question is if we should also show up there as group?
12:38:14 <kaz> q?
12:38:17 <kaz> q+
12:38:23 <sebastian> ... suggestion should come from a memebr and not from the group
12:38:36 <sebastian> Kaz: there is no special rule or policy for this
12:40:02 <sebastian> ... we should ask Luca's expectation
12:41:08 <sebastian> LB: the charter may get bit stronger when we interest our interest in this technology
12:41:32 <sebastian> s/interest/sharing
12:41:52 <kaz> ack lu
12:41:53 <kaz> ack k
12:42:09 <sebastian> MM: ok, it's technical related since they also using WebSockets
12:42:43 <luca_barbato> https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/445
12:42:51 <sebastian> ... would also suggest to add WoT to the collaboration
12:43:16 <kaz> -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2024JulSep/0006.html call for review for WebTransport WG Charter (Member-only)
12:43:24 <McCool0> proposal: Request Web-Transport WG to add a collaboration with Web of Things WG to their WG charter.
12:43:40 <kaz> q+
12:43:43 <sebastian> MM: any objection?
12:43:53 <JKRhb> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:43:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/17-wot-minutes.html JKRhb
12:44:42 <sebastian> Kaz: we should confirm everybody's opinion.
12:46:13 <sebastian> ... support stronger cooperation with browser integration
12:46:52 <McCool0> q?
12:46:58 <McCool0> ack k
12:47:00 <sebastian> MM: I think it is worth to talk about
12:47:21 <kaz> s/support stronger cooperation with browser integration/I myself am totally fine with this possible collaboration, because I've been suggesting we should work on stronger support for browser integration, though./
12:47:27 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:47:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/17-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:48:53 <sebastian> DK: I do not have strong opinion.
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12:49:36 <sebastian> MM: document is still under review
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12:50:30 <McCool0> proposal: Request Web-Transport WG to add a collaboration with Web of Things WG to their WG charter.
12:50:34 <sebastian> ... I woud support due to visibility
12:50:41 <sebastian> s/woud/would
12:51:10 <sebastian> Kaz: comments can be also be given via AC reviews
12:51:45 <dezell2> I support the need for visibility. I will comment as an AC rep.
12:52:24 <McCool0> proposal: Request (via WoT WG member who is an AC rep) Web-Transport WG to add a collaboration with Web of Things WG to their WG charter.
12:52:27 <sebastian> MM: we can do a resolution. Someone else (AC rep) take the action.
12:52:32 <dezell2> q+
12:52:33 <sebastian> LB: I will do it
12:53:10 <kaz> s/comments can be also be given via AC reviews/given it's already on the official AC review, we need to clarify the action also (i.e., somebody from us as an AC rep gives a comment about that)/
12:53:11 <kaz> q-
12:53:12 <McCool0> proposal: Request (via WoT WG member who is an AC rep - Luca Barbato has volunteered) Web-Transport WG to add a collaboration with Web of Things WG to their WG charter.
12:53:23 <sebastian> MM: any objections?
12:53:28 <sebastian> no
12:53:32 <McCool0> resolution: Request (via WoT WG member who is an AC rep - Luca Barbato has volunteered) Web-Transport WG to add a collaboration with Web of Things WG to their WG charter.
12:53:38 <JKRhb> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:53:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/17-wot-minutes.html JKRhb
12:54:01 <sebastian> LB: I will update my review on the Charter
12:54:31 <sebastian> DK: I will also mention WoT in my review
12:54:43 <sebastian> ... any issue with it?
12:54:47 <sebastian> MM: no
12:54:56 <sebastian> topic: Liaisons
12:55:39 <sebastian> MM: established a liaison with ETSI ISG CIM (NGSI-LD)
12:55:50 <kaz> q+
12:55:56 <kaz> ack de
12:56:37 <sebastian> ... there meetings every 2 weeks
12:57:46 <sebastian> SK: there is a kick-off meeting of the new OPC Foundation WG "UA Binding for Web of Things" in 2 weeks (30 July)
12:57:57 <kaz> q-
12:57:59 <sebastian> MM: only OPCF Members can join
12:58:42 <kaz> kaz: we ourselves (WoT WG) need to clarify our expectation for OPC Binding and Binding Template registry for that purpose
12:58:44 <sebastian> Kaz: need to clarify the exchange. Still working on the liaisons contact page
12:58:50 <dape> q+
12:59:06 <sebastian> topic: Schedule
12:59:14 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:59:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/17-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:59:39 <sebastian> --> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Cancellations_and_Schedule_Updates
12:59:48 <kaz> q+
12:59:52 <kaz> ack d
12:59:54 <sebastian> DP: tomorrow there will be no TD and Marketing call
13:00:23 <sebastian> Kaz: today there is a TD call about TD tooling
13:01:14 <sebastian> LB: I send an email about yesterdays Profile outcomes
13:01:31 <sebastian> topic: F2F Planning
13:01:59 <kaz> s/TD tooling/TD tooling, while no TD call tomorrow/
13:02:06 <sebastian> subtopic: TPAC
13:02:33 <sebastian> <MM shows status of breakouts topics>
13:02:40 <sebastian> --> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_F2F_2024_planning
13:02:47 <kaz> i/F2F/kaz: we should clarify how to organize the Profile call, one whole hour or half an hour, weekly or bi-weekly./
13:03:23 <sebastian> topic: Marketing
13:03:49 <kaz> s/Marketing/WoT Week in November/
13:03:59 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_WoT_Week_2024_planning WoT Week wiki
13:04:14 <kaz> topic: Plugfest call
13:04:26 <sebastian> MM: there is a dicussion about the WoT supporters for the web page
13:04:39 <kaz> s/topic: Plugfest call//
13:04:46 <kaz> topic: Plugfest call
13:05:25 <kaz> sk: we'll resume the Plugfest call next Wednesday
13:05:30 <sebastian> SK: next week there will restart the PlugFest meeting to organize the PlugFest for the WoT week
13:05:38 <kaz> s/sk: we'll resume the Plugfest call next Wednesday//
13:06:08 <kaz> q+
13:06:23 <sebastian> MM: there is a conflict with the Profile call.
13:06:32 <sebastian> ... need to cancel it next week
13:07:34 <kaz> ack k
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13:07:59 <sebastian> ... PlugFest meeting next week is a non-recurring meeting
13:08:33 <kaz> i/PlugFest/note that Plugfest/
13:08:36 <kaz> [adjourned]
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