<Chuck> Adjust Color: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bwr8ciRGP5W4zvzBQtJObxaUYRxsR5OrpYYpuK4rDyE/edit#heading=h.4fu2rk4qoiti
<Chuck> Haptic Stimulation: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U5DbLdJIyuIJLdLMhn1F_A0NT_D_qe4MO49F_fJ_fEA/edit#heading=h.4fu2rk4qoiti
<Chuck> Implied Meaning: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P7fOyEPVlqf1aXuJY0SO9LeC-E7EZllg/edit#heading=h.gjdgxs
<Chuck> Keyboard Only: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uE2WCxPmvNopdCbuZQm_-cGyEdxEouRmZ8UUIlyutoU/edit#heading=h.4fu2rk4qoiti
<Chuck> Section Labels: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rHL0Zx4tpNRMztUFXURKn1He74mjRMeDaf330a01FYs/edit#heading=h.4fu2rk4qoiti
<alastairc> present_
<alastairc> alastairc: Today's calendar webpage - https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/fad52978-dc63-4427-90b9-e64dd31b0566/20240716T110000/
<scribe> scribe: Detlev
Alastair: (explains calendar options)
<ShawnT> I gave up on trying to get the calendar event to sync, I rely on the Teleconf info page for the link
<Chuck> Be sure to log in using your W3C account if you haven't when viewing the event.
I hope I don't need to scribe all this...
<Francis_Storr> tomorrow
Alastair: Please book TPAC if you can
<alastairc> https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/104
<Francis_Storr> early bird tickets: available for the first 4 people in a company. deadline is tomorrow.
Alastair: announcing discussion on UA controls vs. authoring in August
<Francis_Storr> https://www.w3.org/register/tpac2024
Rachael: prerequisites three
things lkie security...
... Tells us which we should prioitise
Discussion on Aug 6
Alastair: Main topic is subgroup
work today
... Continuation of work from last week, in breakout rooms -
five outcomes
<alastairc> Adjust Color: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bwr8ciRGP5W4zvzBQtJObxaUYRxsR5OrpYYpuK4rDyE/edit#heading=h.4fu2rk4qoiti
<alastairc> Haptic Stimulation: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U5DbLdJIyuIJLdLMhn1F_A0NT_D_qe4MO49F_fJ_fEA/edit#heading=h.4fu2rk4qoiti
<alastairc> Implied Meaning: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P7fOyEPVlqf1aXuJY0SO9LeC-E7EZllg/edit#heading=h.gjdgxs
<alastairc> Keyboard Only: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uE2WCxPmvNopdCbuZQm_-cGyEdxEouRmZ8UUIlyutoU/edit#heading=h.4fu2rk4qoiti
<alastairc> Section Labels: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rHL0Zx4tpNRMztUFXURKn1He74mjRMeDaf330a01FYs/edit#heading=h.4fu2rk4qoiti
Anyone can facilitation haptic stimulation - Mike Gower can facitiate
Alastair: Implied meaning Julie
Rawe
... if you weren't on one of the groups last week, pick one now
- based on interest / lowest attendance
<Rachael> coga resource https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BA4s0xLhg6wrhaogHUBtAMQ9RspbivgNmvHgoOJSyL0/edit
Chuck: we would like to maintain continuity so if you pick a group today, please stay with it
Rachael: COGA has put together a
resource to reference
... have a look at it
... you can also work asynchronously
Julie: Some bits in the resource may still not quite finalised
<JohnRochford> +1 to Rain's recommendation not to recommend using AI
Rooms are being closed - resuming scribing
Alastair: Non-text contrast: Finding examples, info graphics, charts - for each of these we asked what would be the methods, then backward sengineered them into the decision tree
<scribe> ...new area is where backgrounds are used to group things and may not be visible enough
mbgower: Haptic stimulation
... sharing scratchpad - focusing oun output keeping input in
mind.
... mainly focused on ISO standards, gaming
... has this been done, should be identify research
... when through user needs, then through some examples - is it
the primary or more a notification that info is abailable
... vibration to mark the number of hours
... then talking about methods - alternatives for haptic,
ability to turn off haptics
... then haptic stimulation can be adjusted .. a few more (two
many for scribing please refer t ogoogle doc
Julie (imlied meaning): talking about definitions, like defining sarcasm so users can determine that it is being used
scribe: (implied meaning)
<dj> is it just me or did alastairc just cut out?
Chuck: (keyboard only) working on the decision tree, starting taling about grouping of requirements, difference prerequisites / baseline
giacomo-petri: (section
labels)
... was all about examples, edge cases, exceptions - began
drafting the decision tree
... will work further on examples to see what makes sense
Alastair: Different groups seem to be approaching things quite differently - we had to start with examples to get appropriate mathods
<mbgower> a-\
<Chuck> scribe+ Chuck
<mbgower> https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/56/views/1
<Chuck> Alastair: Pulling up wcag2 issues sent around.
<Chuck> Alastair: Mike linked through to project board. Let's start off with the normative one.
<Chuck> mbgower: We typically list non normative changes, but this occasion it is a normative change.
<Chuck> mbgower: Change "cognitive function test" definition.
<Chuck> mbgower: We are changing to lower case. That's the extent.
<Chuck> mbgower: This will be sent out for CfC.
<Chuck> mbgower: Errata for CfC is where normative changes are recommended.
<Chuck> mbgower: We'll bundle and roll them out.
<Chuck> mbgower: 10 non normative changes. Housekeeping. Won't go through, self describing.
<Chuck> mbgower: Pretty straight forward this week. We avoided the "meatier" ones. Anybody who wants to look through can do so.
<Chuck> mbgower: <example> Update broken link. It's editorial.
<Chuck> mbgower: We were linking to something that doesn't exist anymore.
<Chuck> mbgower: Files changed shows what's happening. Pointing to new location.
<Chuck> mbgower: We are hoping to receive thumbs up on these changes. If you do thumbs down, please add a comment.
<Chuck> mbgower: Anybody who does do a thumbs down will inspire our group to review the issue and discuss. I don't anticipate that these will have any thumbs down.
<alastairc> https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/56/views/1
<Chuck> mbgower: That's all unless there are questions.
<Chuck> alastair: We can finish early. I'll stick around for any outside of meeting questions.
<Chuck> mbgower: Forgot to mention... Mary Ann, one prominent provider that has haptic functionality for music, we get into the realm of qualitative equivalence, regarding "uhms", "ahs", etc. This is a theme that may occur elsewhere.
<Chuck> alastairc: Meeting is adjourned.
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