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04:41:15 <Zakim> Meeting: Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
04:41:20 <Lisa> scribe+ Eric
04:41:42 <Lisa> agenda+ scedile and actions https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.ka7r1m4q5vkc
04:41:54 <Lisa> Agenda+ Ag update?
04:44:04 <Lisa> agenda+ triggers. See paper at https://docs.google.com/document/d/19RdKrd2aUJkZcm9FmIOvZ2jfn9JgYpFcqT5mubyQUAQ/edit#heading=h.p1q1f5jvv2f
04:45:16 <Lisa> regrets+ John'
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16:10:08 <Zakim> Meeting: Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
16:10:25 <lisa> #coga
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16:10:25 <lisa> 17:41 <lisa> agenda?
16:10:25 <lisa> 17:41 * Zakim sees 3 items remaining on the agenda:
16:10:26 <lisa> 17:41 * Zakim 1. scedile and actions https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.ka7r1m4q5vkc [from Lisa]
16:10:26 <lisa> 17:41 * Zakim 2. Ag update? [from Lisa]
16:10:26 <lisa> 17:41 * Zakim 3. triggers. See paper at https://docs.google.com/document/d/19RdKrd2aUJkZcm9FmIOvZ2jfn9JgYpFcqT5mubyQUAQ/edit#heading=h.p1q1f5jvv2f [from Lisa]
16:10:27 <lisa> 17:42 <lisa> item 1 is schedule and actions. See https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.ka7r1m4q5vkc
16:10:27 <lisa> 17:42 <lisa> agenda?
16:10:27 <lisa> 17:42 * Zakim sees 3 items remaining on the agenda:
16:10:28 <lisa> 17:42 * Zakim 1. scedile and actions https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.ka7r1m4q5vkc [from Lisa]
16:10:28 <lisa> 17:42 * Zakim 2. Ag update? [from Lisa]
16:10:28 <lisa> 17:42 * Zakim 3. triggers. See paper at https://docs.google.com/document/d/19RdKrd2aUJkZcm9FmIOvZ2jfn9JgYpFcqT5mubyQUAQ/edit#heading=h.p1q1f5jvv2f [from Lisa]
16:10:29 <lisa> 17:43 <lisa> agenda 1 is schedule and actions. See https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.ka7r1m4q5vkc
16:10:29 <lisa> 17:44 <lisa> agenda?
16:10:29 <lisa> 17:44 * Zakim sees 3 items remaining on the agenda:
16:10:30 <lisa> 17:44 * Zakim 1. scedile and actions https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.ka7r1m4q5vkc [from Lisa]
16:10:30 <lisa> 17:44 * Zakim 2. Ag update? [from Lisa]
16:10:30 <lisa> 17:44 * Zakim 3. triggers. See paper at https://docs.google.com/document/d/19RdKrd2aUJkZcm9FmIOvZ2jfn9JgYpFcqT5mubyQUAQ/edit#heading=h.p1q1f5jvv2f [from Lisa]
16:10:31 <lisa> 17:44 <lisa> agenda 1 = schedule and actions. See https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.ka7r1m4q5vkc
16:10:31 <lisa> 17:44 * Zakim notes agendum 1 replaced
16:10:31 <lisa> 17:44 <lisa> scribe+ EricHind
16:10:32 <lisa> 17:55 <lisa> agenda+ findability
16:10:32 <lisa> 17:55 * Zakim notes agendum 4 added
16:10:32 <lisa> 17:56 <lisa> regrets+ Rain
16:10:33 <lisa> 17:58 <lisa> regrets+ Rain, EA, John kirkwood, Dacid swallow, becca
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16:10:33 <lisa> 17:59 <Eric_hind> present+
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16:10:34 <lisa> 18:01 <lisa> scribe+ Eric_Hind
16:10:34 <lisa> 18:01 <JMcSorley> present+
16:10:35 <lisa> 18:01 <Jennie_Delisi> present+
16:10:35 <lisa> 18:01 <rashmi> present+
16:10:35 <lisa> 18:02 <lisa> next item
16:10:36 <lisa> 18:02 * Zakim thinks agendum 1 -- schedule and actions. See https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.ka7r1m4q5vkc -- taken up
16:10:36 <lisa> 18:02 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Introductions to Len Beasley
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16:10:37 <lisa> 18:04 <julierawe> present+
16:10:37 <lisa> 18:04 <lisa> schedule and actions. See https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.ka7r1m
16:10:37 <lisa> 18:05 <Frankie> present+
16:10:38 <lisa> 18:06 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Gave overall review of current COGA setup, tasks and ongoing processes.
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16:10:38 <lisa> 18:07 <Jennie_Delisi> present+
16:10:39 <lisa> 18:07 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Rain continues to work with Roy, Kevin about the next draft of Content Usable.  May be delayed but is more or less on track.  User testing likely to begin soon, feel free to join into that conversations (Thursdays)
16:10:40 <lisa> 18:09 <Eric_hind> Eric: needs time to review old bugs with group
16:10:40 <lisa> 18:10 <Eric_hind> Eric_hind: Will need time next week.  Eric to chat with Lisa about current state.
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16:10:41 <lisa> 18:11 <julierawe> +1 to google doc
16:10:41 <lisa> 18:11 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Need to continue discussion on style guide.  We agreed that Rashmi will do writing and group will review in  Google doc (as related to new mental health updates)
16:10:41 <lisa> 18:12 <Eric_hind> Rashmi: To update folks about Thursday editors update.
16:10:42 <lisa> 18:13 <julierawe> is the thursday call at 9am ET or 10am ET?
16:10:42 <lisa> 18:14 <JMcSorley> I believe it's 10:00 ET.
16:10:42 <lisa> 18:14 <Eric_hind> Rashmi: Confirming its 9AM EST
16:10:43 <lisa> 18:14 <JMcSorley> I can't do 9:00 ET on Thursday.
16:10:43 <lisa> 18:14 <julierawe> I can do 9am or 10am
16:10:43 <lisa> 18:15 <Eric_hind> Good by me
16:10:44 <lisa> 18:15 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Confirming keeping it at 9AM EST for now.
16:10:44 <lisa> 18:15 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Issue paper discussions up next
16:10:44 <lisa> 18:16 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Additional topic related to paper discussions, need to talk about Citations.  To be done.
16:10:45 <lisa> 18:17 <Eric_hind> Frankie: Supported Decision Making draft update, not sure what current state of things are.  Will have a much better idea of current state by Thursday.
16:10:45 <lisa> 18:18 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Note about COGA 2 Literature Review and Update sheet;  if possible, populate the citations per the sheet.
16:10:45 <lisa> 18:20 <Eric_hind> Lisa: There are sections in Supported Decision making that could use additional research, connect with Lisa if you're able to help out.
16:10:46 <lisa> 18:20 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Len B may connect with Lisa to help out.
16:10:46 <lisa> 18:21 <lisa> suported decion making https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g9N-_3l-d6t0ppZcIIZ98k00x7ZE7h3ayq0OCX9Ycu4/edit#heading=h.rhs6n8lpznbz
16:10:46 <lisa> 18:22 <lisa> editorial review Julie
16:10:47 <lisa> 18:22 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Would Julie have time to be an editor for Supported Decision Making - Yes
16:10:47 <lisa> 18:23 <lisa> and issue paers...
16:10:47 <lisa> 18:23 <lisa> Conversational Voice Systems
16:10:48 <lisa> 18:23 <lisa> Technology-Assisted Indoor Navigation and Wayfinding
16:10:48 <lisa> 18:23 <lisa> Online Safety and Wellbeing (Algorithms and Data)
16:10:48 <lisa> 18:23 <lisa> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/issue-papers-v2/issue-papers/index.html
16:10:49 <lisa> 18:24 <lisa> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/issue-papers-v2/issue-papers/Conversational-Voice-Systems.html
16:10:49 <lisa> 18:24 <lisa> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/issue-papers-v2/issue-papers/Technology-Assisted-Indoor-Navigation-and-Wayfindings.html
16:10:49 <lisa> 18:24 <lisa> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/issue-papers-v2/issue-papers/Online-Safety-and-Wellbeing.html
16:10:50 <lisa> 18:25 <Eric_hind> julierawe: Would prefer to do reviews via a personal Google doc and then figure out what a good system would be for me.  But will check in Thursday call and join in.
16:10:50 <lisa> 18:26 <lisa> agenda?
16:10:50 <lisa> 18:26 * Zakim sees 4 items remaining on the agenda:
16:10:51 <lisa> 18:26 * Zakim 1. schedule and actions. See https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.ka7r1m4q5vkc
16:10:51 <lisa> 18:26 * Zakim 2. Ag update? [from Lisa]
16:10:51 <lisa> 18:26 * Zakim 3. triggers. See paper at https://docs.google.com/document/d/19RdKrd2aUJkZcm9FmIOvZ2jfn9JgYpFcqT5mubyQUAQ/edit#heading=h.p1q1f5jvv2f [from Lisa]
16:10:52 <lisa> 18:26 * Zakim 4. findability [from lisa]
16:10:52 <lisa> 18:27 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Subgroup updates...
16:10:52 <lisa> 18:28 <Eric_hind> JMcSorley: Internationalization meeting progress was minimal due to meeting date.  Larger meeting had better progress and those topics will be brought forward to the smaller group.
16:10:53 <lisa> 18:29 <julierawe> q+
16:10:53 <lisa> 18:29 * Zakim sees julierawe on the speaker queue
16:10:54 <lisa> 18:29 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Add related topics related to Int'l to Thursday meeting.
16:10:54 <lisa> 18:29 <lisa> ack next
16:10:54 <lisa> 18:29 * Zakim sees julierawe at the head of the speaker queue
16:10:55 <lisa> 18:29 * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
16:10:55 <lisa> 18:30 <Eric_hind> julieawe: Issue around double negatives, needing to change to positive phrase unless double negatives are common.  Wants to make sure this aspect was captured
16:10:55 <lisa> 18:30 <Eric_hind> I think so
16:10:56 <lisa> 18:30 <Eric_hind> I will check
16:10:56 <lisa> 18:31 <Eric_hind> Eric_hind: Will check github issues around double negatives
16:10:56 <lisa> 18:31 <lisa> ack next
16:10:57 <lisa> 18:31 * Zakim sees no one at the head of the speaker queue
16:10:57 <lisa> 18:31 * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
16:10:57 <lisa> 18:31 <julierawe> q+
16:10:58 <lisa> 18:31 * Zakim sees julierawe on the speaker queue
16:10:58 <lisa> 18:31 <lisa> ack next
16:10:58 <lisa> 18:31 * Zakim sees julierawe at the head of the speaker queue
16:11:00 <lisa> 18:31 * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
16:11:00 <lisa> 18:31 <lisa> next item
16:11:00 <lisa> 18:31 * Zakim thinks agendum 2 -- Ag update? -- taken up [from Lisa]
16:11:00 <lisa> 18:32 <julierawe> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/subgroups-june-24/
16:11:00 <lisa> 18:32 <Eric_hind> julierawe: Update on survey related to WCAG 3 subgroups, starting an 8 week sprint end of July
16:11:00 <lisa> 18:34 <Jennie_Delisi> q+ to talk about request to chairs
16:11:01 <lisa> 18:34 * Zakim sees Jennie_Delisi on the speaker queue
16:11:01 <lisa> 18:34 <Eric_hind> Julierawe: One around implied meaning is very COGA-ish (3rd item in Subgroup interest survey), just FYI.   If interested in subcommittees, this is about 4 hours a week, 1 for synch meeting, 3 for asynch review/research
16:11:01 <lisa> 18:34 <lisa> q?
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16:11:02 <lisa> 18:34 <lisa> ack next
16:11:02 <lisa> 18:34 * Zakim sees Jennie_Delisi at the head of the speaker queue
16:11:03 <lisa> 18:34 <Zakim> Jennie_Delisi, you wanted to talk about request to chairs
16:11:03 <lisa> 18:34 * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
16:11:03 <lisa> 18:36 <Eric_hind> Jennie_Delisi: Are there related tasks to these big subgroups that are smaller that folks without a lot of time could contribute.  This has been brought up and is being thought about.
16:11:05 <lisa> 18:36 <Jennie_Delisi> *No promises - just asked. Can't hurt to ask :)
16:11:05 <lisa> 18:37 <Eric_hind> Julierawe: Agree that a solution that allow other kinds of helping out would be a good thing.  That survey closes today, just FYI
16:11:05 <lisa> 18:39 <Jennie_Delisi> q+
16:11:05 <lisa> 18:39 * Zakim sees Jennie_Delisi on the speaker queue
16:11:05 <lisa> 18:39 <Eric_hind> Julierawe: Some talk about how we'll break the larger buckets into smaller groups as a way to make this more workable.
16:11:05 <lisa> 18:40 <Eric_hind> Jennie_Delisi: Note that there are Powerpoints about the discussions as a way to quick catch up what the discussion was about.
16:11:06 <lisa> 18:42 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Have some way to pre-review outcomes might be helpful?
16:11:06 <lisa> 18:44 <lisa> ack next
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16:11:07 <lisa> 18:45 <Eric_hind> julierawe: Will take action item, bringing related subgroups any existing, useful COGA information to the AG sprint groups.
16:11:07 <lisa> 18:46 <Eric_hind> Lisa: We did, or can, send our related papers to the subgroups as a well thought out head-start.
16:11:08 <lisa> 18:47 <lisa> q?
16:11:08 <lisa> 18:47 * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
16:11:08 <lisa> 18:47 <lisa> next item
16:11:09 <lisa> 18:47 * Zakim thinks agendum 3 -- triggers. See paper at https://docs.google.com/document/d/19RdKrd2aUJkZcm9FmIOvZ2jfn9JgYpFcqT5mubyQUAQ/edit#heading=h.p1q1f5jvv2f -- taken up [from Lisa]
16:11:09 <lisa> 18:50 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Triggers paper update, lots of information but there can be drawbacks to trigger warnings
16:11:10 <lisa> 18:51 <Eric_hind> Rashmi: Quick review of problem statement, from Issue Paper: Personalization settings to remove or hide trigger warnings.
16:11:10 <lisa> 18:57 <Eric_hind> Rashmi: Reviewed Appendix A, common triggers, impact, importance of having personalization for triggers
16:11:10 <lisa> 19:00 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Do we think that we want to move this (Personalization paper and proposed solution) relate to global settings.  We can review this section a bit more? Do we think this is ready for the next editors draft of issues papers?
16:11:11 <lisa> 19:01 <Eric_hind> Lisa: A week to review, then soon after, add to draft?
16:11:11 <lisa> 19:01 <lisa> review and move to the next  editors drafts
16:11:11 <lisa> 19:01 <lisa> +1
16:11:12 <lisa> 19:01 <Eric_hind> +1
16:11:12 <lisa> 19:01 <lisa> any objections
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16:11:13 <lisa> 19:06 <julierawe> i havev to jump to another meeting
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16:11:13 <lisa> 19:07 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Would be worth sending this out to the list for review/comments would be best next step.
16:11:14 <lisa> 19:08 <Eric_hind> Need to drop.
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16:11:14 <lisa> 19:08 <lisa> RRSAgent, publish minutes
16:11:14 <lisa> RRSAgent, publish minutes
16:11:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/08-coga-minutes.html lisa
16:33:29 <lisa> regrets+ Rain, EA, John kirkwood, Dacid swallow, becca
16:33:32 <lisa> RRSAgent, publish minutes
16:33:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/08-coga-minutes.html lisa