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13:50:42 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
13:50:47 <janina> Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
13:50:52 <janina> Chair: Matthew
13:54:19 <janina> regrets: Gottfried
13:54:27 <janina> Date: 03 Jul 2024
13:54:30 <janina> agenda?
13:54:36 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Review &amp; Announcements
13:54:36 <janina> agenda+ TPAC 2024 Planning
13:54:36 <janina> agenda+ Task Force &amp; Deliverables Updates
13:54:36 <janina> agenda+ New Charters Review <https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22>
13:54:39 <janina> agenda+ HR A11y Review Comment Tracker <https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review>
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13:54:42 <janina> agenda+ Explicit Review Requests <https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues>
13:54:44 <janina> agenda+ new on TR <http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html>
13:54:47 <janina> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) <https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues>
13:54:49 <janina> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) <https://github.com/issues/assigned>
13:54:52 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
13:54:54 <janina> agenda+ be done
13:55:22 <PaulG> present+
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14:01:31 <matatk> agenda?
14:01:33 <JenStrickland> present+
14:02:22 <janina>  regrets+ Fredrik
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14:02:58 <janina> present+
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14:06:18 <mike_beganyi> scribe+
14:06:59 <mike_beganyi> [introductions]
14:12:54 <mike_beganyi> zakim, take up item 1
14:12:54 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review &amp; Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
14:14:06 <mike_beganyi> zakim, close this item
14:14:06 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
14:14:07 <Zakim> I see 10 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:14:07 <Zakim> 2. TPAC 2024 Planning [from janina]
14:14:11 <mike_beganyi> zakim, take up next item
14:14:11 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- TPAC 2024 Planning -- taken up [from janina]
14:14:32 <matatk> https://www.w3.org/2024/09/TPAC/
14:14:59 <JenStrickland> q+
14:15:25 <matatk> q+
14:15:45 <mike_beganyi> Fazio: Working on scheduling a meeting with Equity/Community WG to combine efforts and compare maturity models
14:15:45 <matatk> ack JenStrickland
14:16:10 <mike_beganyi> JenStrickland: David has a standing request to respond to an e-mail as it is quite urgent, so please kindly do so
14:17:37 <mike_beganyi> JenStrickland: recently spoke with David to discuss maturity model so that it is a broader scoped maturity model. Currently trying to make sense of the a11y maturity model, etc. Not a lot of attention to date.
14:18:06 <janina> q+
14:18:20 <matatk> q-
14:18:26 <mike_beganyi> Fazio: Was suggested to us to schedule a meeting with Equity Community group
14:18:46 <mike_beganyi> JenStrickland: requesting a response in e-mail
14:19:26 <mike_beganyi> janina: I don't think we really have a problem, just trying to ensure we're staying in sync. No animosity that I'm aware of, no ill intentions on our part
14:20:08 <mike_beganyi> janina: If there was a clarification request, I missed it and I apologize.
14:21:39 <mike_beganyi> janina: want to offer comfort in that we're talking past each other and miscommunicating. This is meant as a gentle comfort. We'll go forward in e-mail but let's understand that we're not trying to be confrontational or dismissive.
14:21:52 <mike_beganyi> matatk: will follow up in e-mail
14:21:55 <mike_beganyi> zakim, next item
14:21:55 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, mike_beganyi
14:21:59 <matatk> q?
14:22:00 <mike_beganyi> zakim, take up next item
14:22:01 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, mike_beganyi
14:22:02 <matatk> ack janina
14:22:05 <mike_beganyi> zakim, next item
14:22:05 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Task Force &amp; Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from janina]
14:22:30 <matatk> subtopic: RQTF
14:23:05 <matatk> https://www.w3.org/TR/ctaur/
14:23:58 <mike_beganyi> janina: Have been talking with Shawn as we're ready for messaging. CTAUR updated working draft. CTAUR attempts to document where these accessibility requirements are. Publishing another wide review. It will have a long lead time as it is summer (vacations, etc.).
14:24:14 <mike_beganyi> ...We think we're done unless we get substantive comments.
14:24:49 <mike_beganyi> janina: a lot of interest in AI accessibility as well.
14:25:12 <mike_beganyi> janina: also some substantive updates in the Captcha space also
14:25:16 <matatk> https://www.w3.org/TR/turingtest/
14:25:54 <mike_beganyi> janina: activity coming to us from outside requesting us to re-engage in immersive web (XR). Two requests for coordination.
14:26:36 <mike_beganyi> zakim, next item
14:26:36 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- New Charters Review <https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22> -- taken up [from janina]
14:27:03 <mike_beganyi> zakim, close this item
14:27:03 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
14:27:04 <Zakim> I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:27:04 <Zakim> 5. HR A11y Review Comment Tracker <https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review> [from janina]
14:27:05 <mike_beganyi> zakim, next item
14:27:06 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- HR A11y Review Comment Tracker <https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review> -- taken up [from janina]
14:27:11 <mike_beganyi> zakim, close this item
14:27:11 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
14:27:14 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:27:14 <Zakim> 6. Explicit Review Requests <https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues> [from janina]
14:27:14 <mike_beganyi> zakim, next item
14:27:14 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Explicit Review Requests <https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues> -- taken up [from janina]
14:27:18 <matatk> subtopic: Vibration API
14:27:18 <matatk> review issue: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/87
14:27:18 <matatk> spec (linked from review issue): https://w3c.github.io/vibration/
14:27:23 <matatk> scribe+
14:27:47 <mike_beganyi> matatk: review request for vibration API.
14:28:46 <mike_beganyi> matatk: idea is to provide API that allows access to vibration mechanism of host device. It's tactile feedback.
14:30:03 <matatk> We have looked at this previously: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Vibration_API
14:30:12 <mike_beganyi> janina: Should be able to find out the possibility of high-resolution feedback.
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14:31:54 <matatk> Previous comment that had consensus: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2016Sep/0000.html
14:33:25 <niklasegger> q+
14:33:49 <mike_beganyi> matatk: We were asked for them to look at it in the next version. I don't see a response from us.
14:35:08 <niklasegger> It looks like they added the commen to this section: 4. Security and privacy consideration
14:35:33 <matatk> ack niklasegger
14:35:44 <mike_beganyi> niklasegger: looked through the spec and looks like they edited 4th section.
14:36:18 <mike_beganyi> matatk: Anyone can look and review?
14:37:14 <mike_beganyi> Fazio: You can include me on it.
14:38:24 <matatk> agenda?
14:39:07 <mike_beganyi> zakim, drop item 7
14:39:07 <Zakim> agendum 7, new on TR <http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html>, dropped
14:39:14 <mike_beganyi> zakim, next item
14:39:14 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- CSS Update (Paul) <https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues> -- taken up [from janina]
14:39:58 <mike_beganyi> PaulG: last week was combined meeting with WHATWG and a lot of discussion on syntax. Still in good standing currently.
14:40:15 <mike_beganyi> matatk: in what sense do you mean syntax? new feature and not sure about syntax? or more general?
14:40:41 <mike_beganyi> PaulG: Depends. Sometimes it's syntax grammar related and some are existing features that have inconsistent syntax. Long-form, short-form, etc.
14:41:41 <JenStrickland> q+
14:45:05 <matatk> q?
14:46:30 <mike_beganyi> JenStrickland: Wanted to volunteer to join the CSS group. Have had some issues with group dynamics prior, so would love a partner to be in the group with.
14:46:35 <mike_beganyi> ack Jen
14:47:26 <mike_beganyi> JenStrickland: I'm already in the group but haven't been attending. Would like to join together sometime.
14:47:41 <mike_beganyi> PaulG: Can link up on the e-mail to discuss approach, Jen.
14:50:52 <matatk> q?
14:50:53 <mike_beganyi> zakim, next item
14:50:53 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) <https://github.com/issues/assigned> -- taken up [from janina]
14:53:53 <mike_beganyi> matatk: Dr. Keith had some updates regarding his action. Need to be able to contribute as well as understand the issue. Idea is that we will propose a comment. A similar thing went in from the i18n group. Reasonable chance for some feedback there. We're following up on that work.
14:54:12 <mike_beganyi> zakim, next item
14:54:12 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Other Business -- taken up [from janina]
14:54:25 <mike_beganyi> zakim, close item
14:54:25 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close item', mike_beganyi
14:54:29 <mike_beganyi> zakim, close this item
14:54:29 <Zakim> agendum 10 closed
14:54:30 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
14:54:30 <Zakim> 11. be done [from janina]
14:54:32 <mike_beganyi> zakim, next item
14:54:32 <Zakim> agendum 11 -- be done -- taken up [from janina]
14:54:42 <mike_beganyi> rrsagent, make minutes
14:54:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/03-apa-minutes.html mike_beganyi
14:55:59 <mike_beganyi> zakim, end meeting
14:55:59 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been PaulG, JenStrickland, niklasegger, janina, matatk, irali, Fazio, NehaJ, jon_cohn, mike_beganyi
14:56:01 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:56:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/03-apa-minutes.html Zakim
14:56:07 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, mike_beganyi; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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16:13:11 <janina> zakim, bye
16:13:16 <janina> rrsagent, bye
16:13:16 <RRSAgent> I see no action items