11:57:21 RRSAgent has joined #wot 11:57:25 logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/06/19-wot-irc 11:57:25 meeting: WoT-WG/IG 11:57:29 present+ Kaz_Ashimura 11:57:32 chair: McCool 11:57:42 regrets+ Ege 12:00:11 present+ Tim_Panton 12:00:47 luca_barbato has joined #wot 12:00:49 present+ Luca_Barbato 12:01:23 mjk has joined #wot 12:01:28 steely_glint has joined #wot 12:01:36 present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch, Michael_Koster 12:02:14 Tomo has joined #wot 12:02:23 present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima, Kunihiko_Toumura 12:03:02 dezell has joined #wot 12:03:18 regrets- Ege 12:03:24 present+ David_Ezell 12:03:25 present+ Ege_Korkan 12:03:53 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#19_June_2024 12:03:59 chair- McCool 12:04:04 sebastian has joined #wot 12:04:05 cris8 has joined #wot 12:04:05 chair+ Sebastian 12:04:26 matsuda has joined #wot 12:04:32 present+ Michael_McCool 12:04:36 chair+ McCool 12:04:38 McCool has joined #wot 12:04:41 chair+ Koster 12:04:58 McCool has left #wot 12:05:22 present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda 12:05:50 rrsagent, make log public 12:06:35 McCool has joined #wot 12:06:43 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:06:45 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/06/19-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:06:55 zakim, who is on the call? 12:06:55 Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Tim_Panton, Luca_Barbato, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Michael_Koster, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Kunihiko_Toumura, David_Ezell, Ege_Korkan, Michael_McCool, Tetsushi_Matsuda 12:07:27 scribenick: sebastian 12:07:46 topic: Guests, etc. 12:07:53 topic: guests, new members 12:07:59 s/topic: Guests, etc.// 12:08:06 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:08:07 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/06/19-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:08:20 MM: we have 2 pending IE reuests 12:08:48 ... waiting for information about their concrete contributions 12:09:05 topic: Minutes 12:09:07 -> https://www.w3.org/2024/06/05-wot-minutes.html June-5 12:09:26 12:09:37 s/scan/scans/ 12:09:52 MM: any comments on the minutes? any objections? 12:09:54 no 12:09:59 (approved) 12:10:01 MM: minutes approved 12:10:08 s/(approved)// 12:10:10 topic: Quick items 12:10:46 MM: call for AC review for Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities IG 12:10:56 Kaz: please ping your AC rep 12:11:35 ... still more votes needed 12:11:39 i|call for|subtopic: Smart Cities IG AC Review| 12:11:47 MM: we had a spam issue on github 12:11:56 i|call for|-> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/smartcities2024/ AC Review form (Member-only)| 12:12:07 i/we had/subtopic: GitHub SPAM issue/ 12:12:09 q+ 12:12:21 ... please watch out; hopefully not getting a bigger issue 12:12:24 q- 12:13:03 q+ 12:13:22 q- 12:13:23 Ege: there was an spam issue 2 weeks ago. I closed it. There is no way to delete an issue 12:14:18 topic: Meetups 12:14:23 subtopic: WoT CG 12:14:24 MM: no need to ceate yet another policy for now, as long it is not getting a bigger issue 12:14:48 s/MM: no need to ceate yet another policy for now, as long it is not getting a bigger issue/ 12:14:52 i/Meetups/MM: no need to ceate yet another policy for now, as long it is not getting a bigger issue/ 12:14:52 topic: WoT Communities 12:15:08 q+ 12:15:32 < no meetings of the WoT CG and WoT JP CG> 12:15:44 topic: Liaisons 12:15:45 s/subtopic: WoT CG// 12:15:52 s/topic: Meetups// 12:16:22 MM: OPCF asking for an official statement from us 12:16:52 cris has joined #wot 12:17:00 q+ 12:17:10 ... this is a draft available: "As a W3C Web of Things Working Group (WoT), we are pleased that the new OPC Foundation working group will specify the OPC UA Binding for the Web of Things. We support these efforts and offer, for instance, through liaison meetings and/or running PlugFests, to ensure compliance with the latest Web of Things approaches 12:17:10 (e.g., with WoT Binding Templates). An official OPC UA Binding for the Web of Things provides a new opportunity for simplified integration of datapoints from OPC UA-based systems into IoT-based applications using latest Web technologies." 12:17:39 MM: we should change "ensure compliance", its too strict 12:18:02 MM: ow about say "alignment" instead 12:18:07 SK: I'm ok 12:19:15 Kaz: I'm also ok with the content, however, we should use the official email list. 12:20:12 As a W3C Web of Things Working Group (WoT), we are pleased that the new OPC Foundation working group will specify the OPC UA Binding for the Web of Things. We support these efforts and offer, for instance, through liaison meetings and/or running PlugFests, to review alignment with the latest Web of Things approaches (e.g., with WoT Binding 12:20:12 Templates). An official OPC UA Binding for the Web of Things provides a new opportunity for simplified integration of datapoints from OPC UA-based systems into IoT-based applications using latest Web technologies. 12:20:28 [ Kaz points out there two points: 1. text itself and 2. how to exchange it ] 12:20:33 As a W3C Web of Things Working Group (WoT), we are pleased that the new OPC Foundation working group will specify the OPC UA Binding for the Web of Things. We support these efforts and offer for instance through liaison meetings and/or running PlugFests, to review alignment with the latest Web of Things approaches (e.g., with WoT Binding 12:20:33 Templates). An official OPC UA Binding for the Web of Things provides a new opportunity for simplified integration of datapoints from OPC UA-based systems into IoT-based applications using latest Web technologies. 12:21:40 As a W3C Web of Things Working Group (WoT), we are pleased that the new OPC Foundation working group will specify the OPC UA Binding for the Web of Things. We support these efforts and offer through liaison meetings and/or running PlugFests to review alignment with the latest Web of Things approaches (e.g., with WoT Binding Templates). An official 12:21:40 OPC UA Binding for the Web of Things provides a new opportunity for simplified integration of datapoints from OPC UA-based systems into IoT-based applications using latest Web technologies. 12:21:59 [ draft 1, 2 and 3 above ] 12:22:12 MM: any comments? changes? 12:22:18 no 12:23:00 q- 12:23:24 proposal: Adopt draft 3 above to support the work of the OPC Foundation on an OPC UA Binding for WoT and submit this text for review by the W3C Liaison team. 12:23:50 resolution: Adopt draft 3 above to support the work of the OPC Foundation on an OPC UA Binding for WoT and submit this text for review by the W3C Liaison team. 12:23:52 action: kaz to bring the draft 3 text to the W3C Liaison/Strategy Team 12:25:07 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:25:09 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/06/19-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:25:22 subtopic: NGSI-LD 12:25:50 i/OPCF asking/subtopic: OPC UA/ 12:25:57 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:25:58 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/06/19-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:26:04 MM: there is the plan to have an official simple liaisons 12:26:50 i|there is|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1194 wot PR 1194 - Create ngsi-ld.md| 12:27:21 12:27:53 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/liaisons/ngsi-ld.md ngsi-ld.md 12:28:21 s/liaison statement/liaison statement; the PR merged/ 12:28:29 proposal: Establish a Simple Liaison with NSGI-LD with Kazuyuki Ashimura as liaison contact with the scope indicated in https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/liaisons/ngsi-ld.md 12:28:53 mjk has joined #wot 12:28:55 MM: any objections? 12:28:57 no 12:29:04 resolution: Establish a Simple Liaison with NSGI-LD with Kazuyuki Ashimura as liaison contact with the scope indicated in https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/liaisons/ngsi-ld.md 12:29:32 action: kaz to bring the proposed text for NGSI-LD liaison as well to the W3C Liaison/Strategy Team 12:29:56 MM: we will also send this statement to the liaison team 12:30:13 topic: Errata 12:30:20 https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/errata-management.md 12:30:38 s|https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/errata-management.md|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/errata-management.md Errata policy proposal| 12:30:39 MM: we merged last week some PRs to disable the automatic data updates 12:31:02 s/PRs/PR about Errata policy proposal/ 12:31:16 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:31:17 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/06/19-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:31:23 MM: I like to discuss adopting this as an official policy 12:31:30 s/I like/I'd like/ 12:31:52 Ege: no comment from my side 12:33:09 12:33:21 q+ 12:33:37 MM: any objection to make those steps as an official policy? 12:33:46 q- 12:34:29 proposal: Adopt https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/errata-management.md, which proposes a mechanism and policy to manage, review, accept, and publish errata, as an official WoT WG policy. 12:35:04 12:35:04 resolution: Adopt https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/errata-management.md, which proposes a mechanism and policy to manage, review, accept, and publish errata, as an official WoT WG policy. 12:35:46 MM: we should announce a resolution lead to week in advance 12:36:30 ... they only take effect after a week 12:36:44 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1192 wot PR 1192 - Errata Management Policy (which install the draft policy under the official "policy" area) 12:37:16 Ege: there should already a PR available for the official Policy merge 12:37:25 s/we should/technically, we should/ 12:37:38 kaz: I'm OK with merging the PR 1192 also given the situation 12:37:52 Ege: there should be another PR 12:38:15 #1193 12:38:30 MM: are the PRs time critical? 12:38:36 i/there/subtopic: Other Policy PRs/ 12:38:47 Ege: no 12:38:52 i/Other Po/(PR 1192 merged)/ 12:38:55 MM: lets discuss them next week 12:38:57 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:38:59 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/06/19-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:39:05 s/lets/let's/ 12:39:30 topic: Meeting Schedule Changes 12:39:43 MM: there is no TDs call this week 12:39:50 i|there|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Cancellations_and_Schedule_Updates Cancellations| 12:40:32 MM: we need to update the schedule also with the F2F meeting 12:40:40 .. can do this in the chairs call 12:40:55 i/we need to/topic: Publication schedule/ 12:41:00 topic: F2F planning 12:41:06 subtopic: TPAC 12:41:19 i|we need to|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/planning/schedule.md schedule.md| 12:41:32 -> https://www.w3.org/2024/09/TPAC/ TPAC 2024 page 12:41:44 scribe+ 12:41:57 mm: will be held in Anaheim 12:42:06 ... the venue hotel is relatively expensive 12:42:12 sebastian has joined #wot 12:42:14 ... can consider other hotels also 12:42:18 q+ 12:42:26 ok, I'm back 12:42:47 -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2024AprJun/0081.html Breakouts now open 12:42:56 scribenick: sebastian 12:43:08 s/ok, I'm back// 12:43:14 Kaz: Please think about breakout session topics 12:43:19 q+ 12:43:24 q- 12:43:34 qq+ 12:43:47 ack k 12:43:47 kaz, you wanted to react to a previous speaker 12:43:55 MM: how about smart cities and data plans? 12:44:00 Kaz: I will do that 12:44:04 s/data plans/digital twins/ 12:44:19 MM: is there a deadline? 12:45:09 ... September 1st is deadline for submissions 12:45:24 Ege has joined #wot 12:45:29 s/submissions/breakout submissions/ 12:45:46 s/1st/15th/ 12:45:50 thanks 12:46:09 sk: breakout session taking place on Wednesday, right? 12:46:11 MM: yes 12:46:25 subtopic: WoT week 12:46:44 MM: there is a wiki page: 12:46:52 https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_WoT_Week_2024_planning 12:47:03 s/submissions/submissions; TPAC registration early bird deadline is July 16, standard rate deadline is Sep 1/ 12:47:22 MM: please provide your availability 12:48:06 s/availability/availability on the wiki/ 12:48:37 MM: should think about the agenda 12:49:02 ... for the f2f meeting, we should plan 1.5 days 12:49:09 s/agenda/agenda for the November meeting/ 12:49:16 ... good for people travel back on Friday 12:49:51 q? 12:49:53 ack se 12:52:23 :-) 12:53:17 sk: next week I try to share more information about Hotel etc. 12:53:20 topic: Resource 12:54:14 @@@ 12:54:20 topic: TF Leads 12:54:37 q+ 12:54:41 s/@@@/wondering about the status of the versioning policy, but would wait for the conclusion of the TD TF/ 12:54:45 q+ 12:54:49 MM: looking for new TF leads for Security and Discovery 12:55:00 luca_barbato has joined #wot 12:55:24 12:55:37 q+ 12:55:37 https://www.w3.org/WoT/activities/meetings/ 12:55:38 s// 12:55:49 topic: TF Reports 12:56:08 ack e 12:56:25 Ege: there is a new schedule table UI 12:56:32 q- 12:56:42 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/activities/meetings/ 12:56:48 q+ 12:57:50 MM: thanks for this update, this view is in sync with the W3C calendar 12:58:58 q+ 12:59:00 Ege: Anton Champagne was interest in the TD tooling we are using 12:59:24 ... he will join in one of the next meeting 12:59:25 s/Anton Champagne/Pierre-Antoine from the W3C Team/ 12:59:32 s/interest in/interested in/ 12:59:54 s/next meeting/next TD tooling meetings/ 12:59:59 ack lu 13:00:15 Luca: was there a resolution about the profile editor? 13:00:22 MM: we did this last week 13:00:52 ack se 13:01:25 ack k 13:01:26 Luca: we have not enough people in the calls 13:01:44 s/in the calls/in the Profile calls recently/ 13:02:36 ... I change the terminology section which is now coming as a first thing. Like to hear some opinions 13:03:20 MM: lets discuss this next week again, please remind me to add this to the agenda 13:03:36 adjorn 13:04:01 s/adjorn/adjourn 13:09:32 i/lets/kaz: probably we should have longer discussion about how to accelerate the Profile discussion./ 13:09:37 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:09:39 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/06/19-wot-minutes.html kaz 15:04:52 TallTed has joined #wot 15:29:02 Zakim has left #wot