<dmontalvo> Chair; Kathy
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Kathy: I have been working on trying to get together with chairs and plan how we get this meeting sorted, and the visible transcripts for Helen
<dmontalvo> https://www.w3.org/TR/2024/WD-act-rules-format-1.1-20240618/
Daniel: I have been working on
the draft 1.1 for the new rules format to be published next
week
... I shared the staging document above - please shout if you
spot any issues
Jean-Yves: I did not have a lot of time to review the PRs
Giacomo: I have a lot of tickets
assigned to me that I am working on, there are 3 new rules for
the presentational role conflicts.
... Also some other aria rules like global properties and a few
examples
... also aria rules for inaccessible names
... And working on secondary requirements
... I added reviewers wanted - please provide feedback
<giacomo-petri> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3A%22reviewers+wanted%22+assignee%3Agiacomo-petri
<giacomo-petri> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+assignee%3Agiacomo-petri+label%3A%22reviewers+wanted%22
Mark: Not done a huge amount but
reviewing label in name which is #2075 - a few potential issues
esp in the Internationalization which is not true for all
languages on white space
... This is important due to WCAG 2.2 being held up by such
issues
... Looking at issues and adding comments to try and get the
target size rules ready to review - but get a few compilation
issues
Jean-Yves: I have been looking at that and working on the PR 2182 to help witht he correct markdown
Mark: It looked very difficult due to how the builds work? Maybe we need a new one for the new PRs?
Jean-Yves: Yes - we will give this to Wilco as part of his hazing
Mark: I will see what I can get published - and we review what I can get done.
Dan: Not been working on much due to other commitments - like the label in name PR - I hope to get to it. As well as the site for the user testing
<dan-tripp> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/2163
Dan: I had an issue I am stuck on and would like some help as no help or responses on WCAG - so would love some thoughts on how to proceed
Rachael: Regarding that issue - the AG chairs can be emailed this can help get it surfaced to review it: group-ag-chairs@w3.org
Catherine: I have a rule assigned to me but not progressed on it
Ricky: I am trying to keep up with the discussions here - and hello I am from TPGi - I am a technical content author and happy to help on any PRs - but nothing assigned to me yet
Jean-Yves: Have a look in git-hub and take on any issues you want to help on.
Filippo: I am new too and figuring how I can help - I work with Giacomo and working on learning new skills - I am happy to help
Helen: I have done nothing
<dmontalvo> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/93339/act-tpac-2024/results -> ACT presence for TPAC 2024 survey results
Daniel: TPAC is a face to face
meeting with most of the groups to have working groups and
discussions in person. We did a survey on attendance and most
have said they will attend virtually
... We have asked for a morning slot as it is in Anaheim so a
bad timezone for the European members of the group. And it
conflicts with AGWG at the same time
<dmontalvo> https://www.w3.org/2024/09/TPAC/#registration
Daniel: please register ASAP to get free tickets if you are not able to afford to attend
Ricky: What benefit is there for me to attend in person?
Daniel: You end up meeting lots of W3C working groups and helping to collaborate on blockers with getting your blockers resolved
Ricky: I personally found there is a great benefit for us to attend
Giacomo: I do not have access to the TPAC registration page?
Catherine: Me too!
Daniel: Ah - yes - it has not opened like promised - it was an early share
Kathy: What are the dates?
Daniel: 23-27 September 2024
Kathy: Currently none are in the queue
<giacomo-petri> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/2184/files
Giacomo: I want to know the
stance for the shadow on text for color contrast items
... I wanted to clarify that a text shadow is not enough to
pass.
Kathy: SO that has reviewers wanted - so please add notes
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<kathy> Helen: with subjective applicability, need to apply to manual test rules
https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/1952#issuecomment-2077335554
<kathy> ... may be a good place for newer members to start
<kathy> ... these are rules that automation can't cover
<kathy> ... like testing color contrast with a background image
<kathy> ... and consistent navigation and consistent identification. Haven't added WCAG 2.2 yet
<kathy> ... these are also sometimes edge cases like character key shortcuts
<kathy> ... many rules may help shape wcag 3
<kathy> .... manual template with instructions provided
<kathy> ... started this in 2022 at Dublin meet up
<kathy> Ricky: will try to help. most of my job is managing manual rules
https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/2156
<kathy> Helen: tried to avoid subjectivity, need to qualify examples
<kathy> Ricky: have been tasked with testing PDFs.
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Kathy: I was working on this with Helen - as we agreed the transcript needs to be present but visible
<kathy> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/2064
<kathy> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/2186
Kathy: The transcript was decided to not need to be visible, and 1.2.1 does not need it to be in the accessibility tree, and with Helen and Giacomo working on it at the same time was causing conflicts
Ricky: What about the audio description?
Kathy: That is outside the scope
of needing to be visible, but the screen reader user does not
need it.
... Thank you eveyone
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