13:57:07 RRSAgent has joined #wot-td 13:57:11 logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/06/05-wot-td-irc 13:57:59 meeting: WoT-WG - TD-TF 13:58:57 regrets+ Koster 13:59:00 present+ Ege 13:59:07 s/Ege/Ege_Korkan/ 13:59:12 chair+ Ege 13:59:30 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Mahda_Noura, Luca_Barbato 14:02:02 rrsagent, make log public 14:02:05 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:02:07 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/06/05-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:02:48 Tomo has joined #wot-td 14:07:52 Ege has joined #wot-td 14:08:03 luca_barbato has joined #wot-td 14:14:24 scribenick: kaz 14:15:25 topic: Organizational 14:15:52 kaz: Given the participation today, you can continue the discussion on the tooling until 30mins past 14:16:18 ... then we can quickly check the progress on ordinary less-problematic topics 14:17:31 ek: ok. Cristiano will join around 30mins past 14:18:00 (some more discussion about tooling, e.g., LinkML) 14:18:27 present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima 14:18:55 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:18:56 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/06/05-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:22:05 Ege has joined #wot-td 14:30:27 cris has joined #wot-td 14:30:33 present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi 14:30:45 topic: Minutes 14:30:49 -> https://www.w3.org/2024/05/22-wot-td-minutes.html May-22 14:30:57 ek: looked at them 14:31:08 ... didn't see any issues 14:31:33 s/22/29/ 14:31:35 s/22/29/ 14:31:40 approved 14:31:43 Ege has joined #wot-td 14:31:44 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:31:45 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/06/05-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:32:03 mahda has joined #wot-td 14:32:06 topic: TD 14:32:14 present+ Mahda_Noura 14:32:35 -> https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/80/views/1 WoT TD Project 14:33:18 https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/2019 14:33:24 subtopic: Issue 2019 14:33:47 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/2019 Issue 2019 - Removing errata rendering scripts 14:34:02 ek: talked about the issue during the main call 14:34:22 ... removing the JS code about Errata from the Errata file 14:34:45 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2023 PR 2023 - Fixes to Errata Documents 14:34:54 ek: PR 2023 addressed it and merged 14:35:14 subtopic: Issue 1753 14:35:15 https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/1753 14:35:36 s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/1753|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/1753 Issue 1753 - Informative text on text direction handling| 14:36:15 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2026 PR 2026 - Informative steps to implement text direction parsing in Consumers 14:36:22 ek: PR 2026 handles that issue 14:37:14 -> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/2026/67b7c91...5e1822b.html#example-8 diff right above Example 8 14:37:34 ek: fully compliant to the latest I18n document 14:37:48 merged 14:38:29 subtopic: PR 2004 14:38:40 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2004 PR 2004 - Update project management documentation 14:38:52 ek: update for the project management document 14:39:04 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2004/files changes 14:39:27 ek: now using one single table 14:39:55 ... remove obsolete contents 14:40:22 q+ 14:40:50 kaz: kind of big PR 14:41:02 ... for today, all the changes look fine 14:41:17 ... but for the future, would be better to make smaller PRs one by one :) 14:41:23 ek: ok 14:41:24 merged 14:41:28 q- 14:42:13 q+ Cris 14:42:29 subtopic: Issue 1972 14:42:44 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/1972 Issue 1972 - unwanted any type for title 14:42:58 q+ 14:43:54 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1684 related PR 1684 - Fix shacl, context and ontology 14:44:21 ca: old PR 1684, which has been merged, is causing a problem now 14:45:01 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1684#issuecomment-1225986100 Ege shows the discussion in 2022 from PR 1684 14:45:22 q- 14:45:25 ack c 14:45:28 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:45:29 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/06/05-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:45:46 q+ 14:45:53 ca: that's still a possible workaround 14:46:20 mn: but that causes a problem now 14:46:39 ca: we should think about nicer solution 14:47:01 ... less-restrict with the SHACL validation 14:47:39 ek: the correct solution would be modelling human-readable rdf:langString 14:48:07 dape has joined #wot-td 14:48:10 lb: annoying problem here is most of them have specific items 14:49:15 ... need to specify information based on a default language 14:49:46 present+ Daniel_Peintner 14:49:52 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:49:53 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/06/05-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:50:52 ek: human-readable strings should be "rdf:langString" 14:51:03 ... all other strings should be "xsd:string" 14:51:09 q+ 14:51:11 ack lu 14:51:29 q? 14:51:37 ... the default language of the TD in @language should be only applied to "rdf:langString" 14:52:04 cris has joined #wot-td 14:52:25 kaz: maybe a good topic for joint discussion with the other WGs 14:52:34 ... e.g., i18n, VC/DID, RDF, JSON-LD 14:52:54 ek: not an issue about pure RDF, but might be useful 14:53:10 kaz: specifically about RDF-based W3C spec 14:53:29 ca: JSON-LD converter has the issue 14:54:00 mn: current workaround doesn't work due to the current tooling 14:54:22 ek: what do you mean by "JSON-LD converter"? 14:54:38 mn: the mechanism being used within playground 14:54:58 ... don't remember the detail at the moment, though 14:55:27 ca: need to be addressed in JSON-lD 14:55:30 q? 14:55:32 q- 14:55:33 q+ 14:55:40 q- 14:55:43 kaz: yeah 14:56:01 ... that's why I mentioned JSON-LD as one of the targets for joint discussion 14:56:03 mn: yeah 14:56:21 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:56:22 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/06/05-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:56:32 https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-api/issues/545 14:56:59 ca: there is a GitHub Issue on json-ld-api repo 14:57:24 s|https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-api/issues/545|-> https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-api/issues/545 json-ldapi Issue 545 - compacting native types with a type specification in context| 14:57:41 ek: (record that issue as a related issue) 14:58:13 ... maybe we can wait until TPAC since this is not critical at the moment 14:58:27 ... but need to solve it before the next publication 14:59:03 subtopic: Issue 2025 14:59:22 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/2025 Issue 2025 - Extending the initial/reusable connection examples 14:59:28 ek: not time today but need to discuss it 14:59:33 [adjourned] 14:59:45 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:59:47 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/06/05-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 17:30:15 Zakim has left #wot-td