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12:57:33 <kaz> meeting: WoT-WG - TD-TF - Slot 2
12:59:24 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Jan_Romann
12:59:38 <kaz> present+ Michael_Koster
13:00:12 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf#May_29_and_30_2024
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13:02:17 <kaz> present+ Kunihiko_Toumura, Luca_Barbato
13:02:35 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:04:14 <kaz> regrets+ Ege
13:09:02 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner
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13:10:47 <kaz> topic: Agenda
13:11:02 <kaz> mjk: (quickly skims the agenda)
13:11:04 <kaz> ... Thursday: Registry, Binding Mechanism Refactoring, TD Project/Backlog
13:12:14 <kaz> kaz: we have 6 attendees today. if everybody is OK with those items, we can talk about them
13:13:02 <kaz> scribenick: dape
13:13:10 <kaz> i/quickly/scribenick: kaz/
13:13:45 <dape> TOPIC: Agenda Review
13:14:03 <dape> s/TOPIC: Agenda Review//
13:14:44 <kaz> q+
13:14:48 <dape> TOPIC: Binding Templates
13:15:08 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Note published
13:15:24 <dape> Kaz: Note was published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2024/NOTE-wot-binding-templates-20240528/
13:15:27 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/2024/NOTE-wot-binding-templates-20240528/ may 28 Note
13:15:31 <kaz> s/may/May
13:15:34 <kaz> q+
13:15:52 <dape> MK: Just an announcement
13:15:55 <mjk> q?
13:16:16 <dape> Kaz: Last minute updates should be applied to master branch also
13:16:39 <dape> ... I think Ege worked on a PR already
13:17:12 <dape> MK: There will be no specific document anymore.. becoming part of TD
13:17:27 <dape> ... might be last binding templates document published
13:17:31 <kaz> q-
13:17:38 <dape> Kaz: part of refactoring
13:17:45 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Registry
13:17:53 <dape> MK: Analysis Work is documented at https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/registry-analysis/Readme.md
13:18:09 <dape> ... we reviewed this document already in the past
13:18:52 <dape> ... we had discussion on PR, see https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1183
13:19:49 <dape> MK: we will track spec version
13:20:18 <dape> ... revision numbers will be updated to make clear what version works with which binding etc
13:21:08 <dape> ... bindings should be unique
13:22:29 <dape> ... w.r.t. rules of a registry
13:22:47 <kaz> q+
13:22:53 <dape> ... we have an initial list of protocols already
13:23:05 <dape> ... essential what we have already now
13:23:20 <dape> s/essential/essentially
13:23:41 <dape> MK: submission mechanism
13:23:55 <dape> ... could also be multiple registries
13:24:05 <dape> q?
13:24:22 <dape> Kaz: We have been doing good discussions
13:24:34 <dape> ... good timing to think about concrete template
13:24:44 <dape> ... e.g., about CoAP or MQTT
13:25:01 <dape> ... what to be described withing the registry
13:25:14 <dape> ... similar to what we have for use-case template
13:25:34 <dape> MK: Okay
13:25:56 <dape> ... template makes sense
13:26:27 <dape> ... shall we have another section in the registry-analysis/Readme.md document
13:26:35 <dape> Kaz: Yes
13:27:06 <dape> ... might think about another format (other than Markdown) also
13:28:10 <dape> <MK editing the document introducing a *new* section "Registry Template" right before appendix>
13:28:12 <kaz> s/might/maybe we can generate a separate MD file to describe necessary features of each registry entry. also might/
13:28:19 <kaz> s/) also/) too/
13:28:28 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:28:42 <mjk> q?
13:28:46 <kaz> q-
13:29:21 <kaz> present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi
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13:29:52 <JKRhb> q+
13:30:24 <kaz> ack jk
13:30:33 <dape> JR: Should we work on the template asynchronously
13:31:00 <dape> s/asynchronously/asynchronously?
13:32:49 <dape> MK: What can we do in the meeting vs. asynchronously
13:33:28 <cris> q+
13:33:48 <dape> ... shall we say more in the current editing or work on it later
13:34:11 <dape> CA: top level file for introduction? or submission file?
13:34:23 <dape> MK: Yes, a submission template
13:34:41 <dape> CA: should they be the same?
13:35:04 <dape> ... what about maintainer and context around protocol
13:35:13 <dape> MK: That makes sense
13:35:52 <cris> q+
13:36:11 <dape> MK: Currently we have an HTML file
13:36:26 <dape> CA: plus context file and JSON schema file
13:36:41 <dape> ... JSON schema could be optional
13:36:52 <dape> ... but good to have for validation purposes
13:37:15 <dape> MK: Yes, some files might be optional
13:37:30 <luca_barbato> q+
13:37:39 <dape> ... there are also ontology files (ttl, JSON-LD)
13:37:47 <dape> q?
13:37:51 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:38:05 <kaz> chair: Koster
13:38:13 <dape> LB: context vs ontology file.. isn't it the same?
13:38:50 <dape> MK: ontology file for me are separate ontology files
13:39:08 <dape> ack luca_barbato
13:39:27 <cris> ack c
13:39:34 <dape> CA: Could be separated .. even though it is very tight
13:39:43 <kaz> q+
13:39:52 <dape> MK: we can merge the 2 items one bullet list item
13:39:54 <dape> q?
13:39:54 <mjk> q?
13:40:10 <dape> MK: Kaz mentioned YAML file?
13:40:20 <luca_barbato> q+
13:40:29 <dape> Kaz: Just to get initial input to generate Markdown
13:40:38 <dape> ... don't need to dive into details now
13:40:47 <dape> Kaz: context vs. ontology
13:40:58 <dape> ... question of structure
13:41:17 <dape> ... multiple ontology files like parent ontology et cetera
13:42:29 <kaz> s/context vs/regarding the question on context vs/
13:42:29 <dape> MK: We need to think about structure and organization
13:42:44 <kaz> s/question of s/it's rather a question of the s/
13:43:02 <dape> ... some consistent pattern for the artifacts
13:43:08 <kaz> s/parent ontology/parent ontology and children onotlogies/
13:43:33 <kaz> q?
13:43:35 <kaz> ack k
13:43:52 <dape> ack luca_barbato
13:44:09 <dape> LB: YAML template can be used in GitHub
13:44:22 <JKRhb> q+
13:44:23 <dape> ... functionality for PullRequests
13:44:44 <kaz> q?
13:44:50 <dape> ... workflow for creating issue and linking PR
13:44:55 <dape> ... can be streamlined
13:45:00 <dape> q?
13:45:08 <kaz> ack j
13:45:23 <dape> JR: could have template repository
13:45:36 <dape> ... helps people to create own binding
13:45:55 <dape> MK: Yeah
13:46:07 <dape> ... kind of a blank version
13:46:45 <dape> LB: Link-ML could offer template generation
13:47:37 <dape> MK: I see, more a repository template
13:47:49 <dape> ... a repository for each binding
13:48:12 <mjk> q?
13:48:55 <dape> MK: We should also think about async way to make progress
13:49:08 <dape> ... are there any open issues for this?
13:49:09 <kaz> q+
13:49:43 <kaz> ack k
13:49:49 <dape> Kaz: Maybe we can have more discussion in TD coordination call next Tuesday
13:50:06 <dape> MK: Okay we can do that
13:51:21 <dape> ... let's commit what we have worked on today
13:51:38 <dape> ... https://github.com/w3c/wot/commit/dc4d7ffc0ad4b6ed70b120d4e317316fcefbf7f3
13:51:45 <dape> ... we can refine the notes later
13:52:01 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/registry-analysis/Readme.md updated Registry Mechanism Analysis doc
13:53:12 <dape> MK: Any more comments on registry topic?
13:53:19 <dape> --> none
13:53:30 <dape> ... okay let's close the meeting
13:53:44 <dape> [adjourned]
13:53:51 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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