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12:05:43 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jasonjgw
12:06:08 <jasonjgw> present+
12:06:11 <jasonjgw> chair: jasonjgw
12:06:13 <jasonjgw> scribe+
12:06:17 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements.
12:06:17 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Artificial intelligence, machine learning, and accessibility.
12:06:17 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Miscellaneous updates and topics.
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12:57:22 <janina> present+
12:57:26 <janina> agenda?
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13:03:04 <JPaton> present+ John_Paton
13:03:11 <JPaton> scribe+
13:03:46 <janina> scribe+
13:03:50 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:03:50 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:05:29 <JPaton> jasonjgw: CFC is now open and runs to midnight Boston time
13:06:12 <janina> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2024May/0004.html
13:06:56 <jasonjgw> Janina: notes that the CfC is open to the whole of APA, and Task Forces are encouraged to respond to each other's work.
13:07:38 <jasonjgw> Janina: still considering questions to be asked of reviewers.
13:08:01 <jasonjgw> janina: asks whether the complexity management quesiton is the over-arching theme of CTAUR.
13:08:41 <jasonjgw> Janina: considers highlithing the social considerations section (in the messaging) - how do you understand what we're saying, and should we say more?
13:09:22 <jasonjgw> Janina: notes the distinction between the collaborative features, and the type of content being edited (text, code, video, etc.).
13:09:46 <jasonjgw> Janina: suggests asking reviewers whether the distinction has been adequately clarified.
13:10:24 <jasonjgw> Janina: wishes to raise questions on those three matters. The document won't advance this week, giving us time to fine-tune the announcements.
13:10:36 <jasonjgw> Janina: Notes editorial corrections to the document that will also be incorporated.
13:14:46 <jasonjgw> Janina: notes that W3C/WAI administration will be involved as the announcement text is worked on.
13:15:58 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:15:58 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Artificial intelligence, machine learning, and accessibility. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:16:37 <janina> jasonjgw: Notes Scott unavailable to advance this past week, so no updates today
13:17:13 <janina> jasonjgw: Notes Gregg Vanderheiden paper at CHI Conference
13:17:20 <janina> jasonjgw: Paper now published
13:19:07 <jasonjgw> https://dl.acm.org/doi/full/10.1145/3613905.3644059
13:19:25 <janina> jasonjgw: Asks for thoughts on titling our work in this area
13:19:37 <janina> janina: It matters now because we need to name our github repository
13:20:46 <janina> jasonjgw: Suggests "AI, ML and Web Accessibility"
13:20:56 <janina> janina: Suggests "in" not "and web a11y"
13:21:09 <janina> present+ Scott
13:21:17 <janina> Scott Digital?
13:22:02 <janina> AIML in WA
13:22:47 <janina> janina: Asks whether ai ml is redundant
13:22:51 <janina> present+ Raja
13:23:12 <janina> raja: Have seen how ml is included; ai is more broad as a subject
13:23:20 <janina> raja: But they're so similar
13:24:16 <janina> raja: Thinking Wizard of Oz; hard to identify AI that isn't ML
13:25:11 <janina> raja: When one thinks ethics, better to sayh ethics in AI as opposed to in ML
13:26:19 <janina> janina: Suggest also that we're working in W3C space, so "web" is to be presumed
13:26:46 <janina> janina: AI-A11y?
13:26:55 <janina> jasonjgw: A related question on scope
13:27:38 <janina> jasonjgw: Recalls interest and relation from EO when we worked on RTC
13:28:40 <jasonjgw> Janina: notes that all of W3C/WAI will be intersted in the topic.
13:29:09 <jasonjgw> Janina: there's already interest from the broader APA Working Group in participating.
13:34:06 <jasonjgw> Janina: asks about accessibility authoring requirements.
13:37:54 <jasonjgw> Janina: notes that mobile accessibility raises further opportunities and issues. For example, navigation applications could be in scope.
13:39:01 <jasonjgw> Janina: suggests we discuss lag time due to server involvement and ML processing.
13:41:10 <jasonjgw> Discussion of neural processing hardwawre and implications for latency.
13:50:18 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:50:19 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Miscellaneous updates and topics. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:50:42 <jasonjgw> Janina: will be here next week, but not the following week.
13:54:34 <jasonjgw> zakim, end meeting
13:54:34 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, janina, John_Paton, Scott, Raja
13:54:36 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
13:54:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/29-rqtf-minutes.html Zakim
13:54:45 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, jasonjgw; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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