IRC log of maturity on 2024-05-29
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- RRSAgent, make logs Public
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- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio
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- meeting: Maturity Model Task Force
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- chair: Fazio
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- present+
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- Agenda+ New Business
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- Agenda+ Github Issue #154 Section 3.3.1: can a measure of support effectiveness be included?
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- Agenda+ Github Issues 43, 78, 85, 102, 103, 104 (Usability doc feedback) – Look at Procurement Dimension
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- Agenda+ Maturity Model Scoring Subgroup Update
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- /issues/154 -> #154
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- Agenda+ Github #156 Issue Section 3.5: proof points should consider whether people with disabilities actually were included in the workforce as a result of the efforts made.
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- /issues/156 -> #156
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- zakim, take up item 1
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- agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Fazio]
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2 -- Github Issue #154 Section 3.3.1: can a measure of support effectiveness be included? -- taken up [from Fazio]
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- /issues/154 -> #154
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- present+
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- Github Issue #154 Section 3.3.1: can a measure of support effectiveness be included?
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- https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/154
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- https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/154 -> Issue 154 Section 3.3.1: can a measure of support effectiveness be included? (by jasonjgw)
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- queue+
- 15:16:13 [NehaJ]
- jasonjgw support effectiveness be included as a proof point by adding an appropriate criteria?
- 15:17:34 [janina]
- q?
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- q+
- 15:22:34 [NehaJ]
- ack jlkline
- 15:22:40 [janina]
- q+
- 15:24:20 [NehaJ]
- jeff: we can include set of suggested goals in the dimension
- 15:24:56 [Mark_Miller]
- q+
- 15:25:28 [NehaJ]
- ack Fazio
- 15:25:56 [Dr_Keith]
- If you set metrics you're moving to a model closer to WCAG and testable success criteria. Is that the goal of maturity assessment?
- 15:27:33 [NehaJ]
- Fazio proof points are examples but not necessary.
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- q?
- 15:28:11 [NehaJ]
- Fazio if we have to make in mandatory then we have to add in definition
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- ack janina
- 15:29:07 [CharlesL]
- q+
- 15:29:19 [NehaJ]
- janina have some way to create a document which has some outcome
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- q?
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- ack Mark_Miller
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- q}
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- q?
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- queue+
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- Mark_Miller other maturity models have a stage to measure maturity
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- q?
- 15:34:05 [janina]
- q?
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- ack CharlesL
- 15:35:21 [jasonjgw]
- q+
- 15:36:02 [NehaJ]
- CharlesL shared benetech experience, understanding proof points was difficult for some
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- CharlesL benetech key points: avg time each department took was 3 - 4 hours
- 15:39:09 [NehaJ]
- Fazio stages need to be more clear? and how proof points are more related to those? - take away from benetech learning
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- Fazio documentation is published so it needs to be very clear
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- ack jlkline
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- jeff: model should consider some type of prioritization on proof points
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- ack jasonjgw
- 15:46:48 [NehaJ]
- jasonjgw what should be evidence and what should not
- 15:47:53 [NehaJ]
- jasonjgw some examples of goals and matrix would ne helpful
- 15:51:08 [NehaJ]
- jasonjgw none of the things are prescriptive but abstract, should be supported with exmaples
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3 -- Github Issues 43, 78, 85, 102, 103, 104 (Usability doc feedback) – Look at Procurement Dimension -- taken up [from Fazio]
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- Fazio when to republish
- 15:54:33 [NehaJ]
- janina should talkone more time next week
- 15:56:36 [NehaJ]
- RESOLUTION: Maturity model task force APA request updated with current status
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- RRAgent, make the minutes
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- RRSAgent, make the minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/29-maturity-minutes.html NehaJ
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- zakim, end meeting
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- As of this point the attendees have been Fazio, CharlesL, janina, Stacey, NehaJ, Dr_Keith, jasonjgw, Mark_Miller, SusiPallero, angelabarker
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/29-maturity-minutes.html Zakim
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- I am happy to have been of service, NehaJ; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see no action items