IRC log of maturity on 2024-05-29

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RRSAgent, make logs Public
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please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio
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meeting: Maturity Model Task Force
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chair: Fazio
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present+
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Agenda+ New Business
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Agenda+ Github Issue #154 Section 3.3.1: can a measure of support effectiveness be included?
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Agenda+ Github Issues 43, 78, 85, 102, 103, 104 (Usability doc feedback) – Look at Procurement Dimension
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Agenda+ Maturity Model Scoring Subgroup Update
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/issues/154 -> #154
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Agenda+ Github #156 Issue Section 3.5: proof points should consider whether people with disabilities actually were included in the workforce as a result of the efforts made.
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/issues/156 -> #156
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scribe+
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zakim, take up item 1
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agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Fazio]
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zakim, next item
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agendum 2 -- Github Issue #154 Section 3.3.1: can a measure of support effectiveness be included? -- taken up [from Fazio]
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/issues/154 -> #154
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15:12:51 [Fazio]
Github Issue #154 Section 3.3.1: can a measure of support effectiveness be included?
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https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/154
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https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/154 -> Issue 154 Section 3.3.1: can a measure of support effectiveness be included? (by jasonjgw)
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queue+
15:16:13 [NehaJ]
jasonjgw support effectiveness be included as a proof point by adding an appropriate criteria?
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q?
15:22:19 [Fazio]
q+
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ack jlkline
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q+
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jeff: we can include set of suggested goals in the dimension
15:24:56 [Mark_Miller]
q+
15:25:28 [NehaJ]
ack Fazio
15:25:56 [Dr_Keith]
If you set metrics you're moving to a model closer to WCAG and testable success criteria. Is that the goal of maturity assessment?
15:27:33 [NehaJ]
Fazio proof points are examples but not necessary.
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q?
15:28:11 [NehaJ]
Fazio if we have to make in mandatory then we have to add in definition
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ack janina
15:29:07 [CharlesL]
q+
15:29:19 [NehaJ]
janina have some way to create a document which has some outcome
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q?
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ack Mark_Miller
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q}
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q?
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queue+
15:33:09 [NehaJ]
Mark_Miller other maturity models have a stage to measure maturity
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q?
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q?
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ack CharlesL
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q+
15:36:02 [NehaJ]
CharlesL shared benetech experience, understanding proof points was difficult for some
15:37:04 [NehaJ]
CharlesL benetech key points: avg time each department took was 3 - 4 hours
15:39:09 [NehaJ]
Fazio stages need to be more clear? and how proof points are more related to those? - take away from benetech learning
15:40:04 [NehaJ]
Fazio documentation is published so it needs to be very clear
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ack jlkline
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jeff: model should consider some type of prioritization on proof points
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ack jasonjgw
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jasonjgw what should be evidence and what should not
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jasonjgw some examples of goals and matrix would ne helpful
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jasonjgw none of the things are prescriptive but abstract, should be supported with exmaples
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zakim, next item
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agendum 3 -- Github Issues 43, 78, 85, 102, 103, 104 (Usability doc feedback) – Look at Procurement Dimension -- taken up [from Fazio]
15:54:15 [NehaJ]
Fazio when to republish
15:54:33 [NehaJ]
janina should talkone more time next week
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RESOLUTION: Maturity model task force APA request updated with current status
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RRAgent, make the minutes
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RRSAgent, make the minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/29-maturity-minutes.html NehaJ
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zakim, end meeting
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As of this point the attendees have been Fazio, CharlesL, janina, Stacey, NehaJ, Dr_Keith, jasonjgw, Mark_Miller, SusiPallero, angelabarker
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RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/29-maturity-minutes.html Zakim
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I am happy to have been of service, NehaJ; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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rrsagent, bye
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I see no action items