Meeting minutes
<Dr_Keith> I can't get into the zoom :(
<Dr_Keith> in now :)
Agenda Review & Announcements
<janina> Link to W3C Calendar on git hub ...
<janina> w3c/
matatk: Please file issues or let APA know if there are any issues with the calendar.
janina: There is a CfC open for CTAUR, please respond by midnight Boston time.
<janina> https://
Fazio: This is Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements
<JenStrickland> CTAUR=Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements
<JenStrickland> Thanks, Lionel!
<Dr_Keith> https://
Lionel_Wolberger: +1, the info is not here https://
<Dr_Keith> one more: https://
TPAC 2024 Planning
<Fazio> I looked at both links last weekend. No definition of A, AA, AA
matatk: We need to plan our meetings
janina: Need to meet with groups dealing with Media, e.g. MIG (media interest group)
janina: The AUR (Accessibility User Requirements) series began when HTML5 kicked off
… MAUR was the first one, invented at the time, we had coordination with Apple and other large corporations
… this MAUR helped guide HTML5
<matatk> Digital Accessibility User Requirements: Digital Accessibility User Requirements
janina: that kicked off the series of AUR
<matatk> Digital Accessibility User Requirements: https://
Task Force & Deliverables Updates
HR A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
Mark features that might expose accessibility tools
<matatk> gb, off
<gb> matatk, issues and names were already off.
<matatk> Tracking issue: w3c/
matatk: There is a mark currently defined to surface the risk of fingerprinting
… this considers having a similar signal, when there is a risk of detecting AT
… I would like to widen the discussion to considering what exactly is AT
Lionel_Wolberger: this topic is of deep interest to me. There's subtle differentiation. This feels like 3 topics. Where this is born is: could the thing you're adding to the browser contribute to fingerprinting?
… e.g. if you have a unique font, that can contribute to fingerprinting.
… contributing to fingerprinting is not the same thing as detecting AT
… You (matatk) opened it up to 'what is AT?' - a wider discussion
… Finally: the browser _must_ be aware of the AT - it creates the accessibility tree and it helps the screen reader. Right now privacy protection of AT is based on handshakes all 'round.
… Google says, for example, that Chrome doesn't expose it. Browsers could though. But everyone stays away from this.
… The topic came up in our recent era because there ware ways to detect AT based on user behavior on the page. That's a distinct, 4th, topic.
janina: Sounds like the proposal is a badge on the spec to say it presents such a risk?
Lionel_Wolberger: Difference between fingerprinting and behavior-based detection.
… A fingerprint is a mark you leave behind - a set pattern of the stuff you've done to it (extensions, fonts, versions, ...)
Fazio: We need to be very specific, as Lionel is indicating
… is it as an individual, or as a disability type
… "this browser is set up this way" is unlikely to be able to parsed into, "the user has this disability"
janina: If it only identifies a class of users, that might be ok
Fazio: +1 to the label, "class of users"
<Dr_Keith> we do need to read the spec. The data can be paired with other data to be a personal identifyer and even ID of a class of users could be something that leads to deeper issues around discrimination
matatk: Keep in mind, if fingerprint can identify uniquely a particular browser, that is problematic enough
Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues
HTML Ruby Markup Extensions 2024-05-23
ISSUE: w3c/
matatk: Ruby is a scripting language used for "interlinear annotation... short runs of text alongside the base text". Often useful in adding accents to characters, and Asian languages. Spec, https://
janina: We know some people in Japan who may be interesting in doing this review
new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
Actions Checkin (Specs) issues/assigned
Other Business
Adapt at TPAC
Lionel_Wolberger: Let's clarify the meetings that Adapt would want
matatk: On the issue of symbols, we have movement from AP that needs answering