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11:33:21 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jasonjgw
11:33:35 <jasonjgw> meeting: RQTF meeting
11:33:40 <jasonjgw> chair: jasonjgw
11:33:42 <jasonjgw> present+
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11:33:47 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements.
11:33:47 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Artificial intelligence, machine learning, and accessibility.
11:33:47 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Immersive captions.
11:33:50 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Miscellaneous updates and topics.
11:34:03 <jasonjgw> agenda?
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13:03:54 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:03:54 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:04:15 <scott_h> jason good progress with CTUAR
13:04:29 <scott_h> quesiton regarding file system heirarchy
13:05:16 <janina> subtopic: CTAUR for wide review?
13:05:46 <scott_h> janina: proposed CFC today
13:06:35 <scott_h> have gone through documnet, also time with COGA
13:06:59 <scott_h> no speciifc issues identified
13:08:42 <scott_h> consistent help: scott answered, pointing to WCAG works
13:09:37 <scott_h> document is ready for wider review
13:10:45 <scott_h> also language:  restructured some of the writing, a little less formal academic, but mainly editorial
13:15:40 <scott_h> RESOLUTION:  RQTF requests that APA publish a snapshot updated working draft of CAUR based on the current editors draft https://w3c.github.io/ctaur/
13:15:58 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
13:16:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/22-rqtf-minutes.html janina
13:16:19 <janina> subtopic: CTAUR Messaging
13:17:12 <scott_h> janina: still have last CTAUR draft messaging
13:17:49 <scott_h> need to explain why we need to republish
13:18:25 <scott_h> should we remove scoping?
13:19:10 <scott_h> jason: anything out of scope shoudl be taken as for something elsewhere
13:20:03 <scott_h> scott: agree, most of work in past 18 months has been related to scope
13:20:11 <scott_h> janina: we ahe time to think about what feedback we need
13:23:27 <scott_h> janina: several questions we can ask, e.g. complexity management
13:26:22 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:26:22 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Artificial intelligence, machine learning, and accessibility. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:26:53 <scott_h> jason: complex topic, how will we confine the scope?
13:27:25 <scott_h> need to confine what we discuss
13:28:59 <jasonjgw> Scott: suggests we document how existing standards/guidance apply to AI; what guidance is already directly applicable?
13:29:23 <jasonjgw> scott: What role does AI have in addressing issues in real time, and what can be its contribution to evaluation and remediation tools in accessibility?
13:30:30 <jasonjgw> Scott: Example: its role in implementing WCAG success criteria; correcting accessibility issues. How effective is AI in supporting the remediation process? To what extent will it increase the coverage of WCAG success criteria achieved by autoamted testing tools?
13:31:01 <jasonjgw> Scott: there's a lack of guidance on sign language translation tools and their feasibility.
13:33:57 <jasonjgw> Scott: We need to recognize the opportunities and the potential, while documenting limitations of tools and solutions.
13:34:33 <jasonjgw> Scott: Example - the generation of textual descriptions of images that don't convey what is important to a reader with a disability.
13:35:04 <jasonjgw> Scott: What are the accessibility implications? How effective is it in addressing WCAG success criteria? What are the limitaitons?
13:35:54 <scott_h> jason: also the quesiton of macine learning models
13:36:19 <scott_h> jason: how do you make the output of machine learning models accessibel? ou make the
13:36:58 <scott_h> useful solution in prnciple. how effective in practice?
13:37:07 <scott_h> real-time intervention possible but costly
13:38:09 <jasonjgw> Scott: suggests there are 3-4 subtopics that we could develop as a Working Group Note.
13:38:38 <jasonjgw> Scott: from the recent conference - the potential of AI to enhance the accessibility of XR environments.
13:39:06 <jasonjgw> Scott: Notes there is other work of the Task Force that should be taken into consideration by AI software developers.
13:39:27 <scott_h> jason: good as a starting pont
13:39:51 <scott_h> very excited about this work
13:44:55 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:44:55 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Immersive captions. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:46:11 <scott_h> jajanina:  drafting e-mail on process to move to Note status
13:46:20 <scott_h> discused with Kevin and Shawn
13:46:45 <scott_h> also question whether eveyrone in community needs to sign off on copyright
13:47:11 <scott_h> jason: will it still proceed?
13:48:10 <scott_h> janina: will handle mechanics
13:49:28 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:49:28 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Miscellaneous updates and topics. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:49:57 <scott_h> jason: publicity recently about EU regulation of AI and machine learning
13:50:12 <scott_h> may address some of Raja's issues regarding transperancy raised earlier
13:51:23 <scott_h> jason: on related matter, US access Board looked at disability and AI
13:53:00 <scott_h> janina: availability - unavailable week of Monday 10 June
13:55:16 <jasonjgw> zakim, end meeting
13:55:16 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, janina, scott_h, John_Paton
13:55:18 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
13:55:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/22-rqtf-minutes.html Zakim
13:55:26 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, jasonjgw; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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