IRC log of a11yedge on 2024-05-22
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- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
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- Meeting: Accessibility at the Edge Community Group Teleconference
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- Date: 22 May 2024
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- Chair: Janina
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- agenda+Welcome & Introductions (As needed)
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- agenda+Capabilities Development: Remaining Automatabilities
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- agenda+Next Steps and Actions
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- agenda+Be done
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- regrets: Chris_Novell
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- present+
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- scribe+
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- present+
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- agenda?
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- Topic: Consistency
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- present+ Jason
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- Jason: This item, "Having Sufficient Knowledge & Skills" seems inconsistent with the others, in fact it does not sound like a capability
- 18:44:33 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- .. the whole management area might need a different handling
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- +1
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- janina: One job at a time. Let's complete the 'automatability' pass then discuss restructuring.
- 18:49:08 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- janina: "Only The Edge Knows For Sure" is talking about the business side and is "do not apply"
- 18:49:27 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Lionel_Wolberger: We have expanded the Automatability options to include "does not apply", or DNA
- 18:54:23 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- jason: We cut and pasted the same categories across all headings, but they apply very poorly in this "management" area
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- ... we likely will not need to have 'Source' in this section as well
- 18:55:28 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- janina: These items go to the heart of the edge debate, or the viability of "not-at-source" accessibility solutions
- 18:56:08 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- jason: The dimensions of Source, Trade-offs, Benefit, Automatability just do not apply in this section.
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- janina: Can you make a business process decision to rely on automatability as a viable accessibility solution for some sites?
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- Topic: DNA abbreviation
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- janina: DNA stands for "does not apply"
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- Topic: Accessibility Editing, By Site Owner
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- Lionel_Wolberger: DNA
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- Topic: Accessibility Statement Discoverability
- 19:19:46 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- WAI-Adapt there is a specification in development called Well Known Destinations
- 19:20:00 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Lionel_Wolberger: In WAI-Adapt there is a specification in development called Well Known Destinations
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- ... this will enable the consistent discovery of an accessibility statement
- 19:20:33 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... and hols the promise of making those statements machine readable in the future
- 19:21:04 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- jason: But this item, "Accessibility Statement Availability" is about accessibility statement generation
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- janina: The idea is that we take common destinations, like an accessibility statement, and make them discoverable
- 19:24:19 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- jason: I do think you can generate an accessibility statement automatically. It might not include everything, but you could.
- 19:25:54 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Lionel_Wolberger: I agree, many cogent parts of such a statement can be automatically generated
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- jason: You need permission to create it, but it could be hosted anywhere
- 19:27:11 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... but the discoverable 'well known destination' would need to be configured by Amazon
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- Topic: Next meeting agenda
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- jason: If a new member joins, we should start at the concept of a11y at the edge, or post-source
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- janina: +1
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- Lionel_Wolberger: +1
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- zakim, end meeting
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- As of this point the attendees have been janina, Lionel_Wolberger, Jason
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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