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18:20:36 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
18:20:50 <janina> Meeting: Accessibility at the Edge Community Group Teleconference
18:20:57 <janina> Date: 22 May 2024
18:21:01 <janina> Chair: Janina
18:21:17 <janina> agenda+Welcome & Introductions (As needed)
18:21:36 <janina> agenda+Capabilities Development: Remaining Automatabilities
18:21:44 <janina> agenda+Next Steps and Actions
18:21:49 <janina> agenda+Be done
18:30:44 <janina> regrets: Chris_Novell
18:30:49 <janina> present+
18:30:59 <janina> scribe+
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18:35:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
18:35:47 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
18:43:26 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: Consistency
18:43:34 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+ Jason
18:44:11 <Lionel_Wolberger> Jason: This item, "Having Sufficient Knowledge & Skills" seems inconsistent with the others, in fact it does not sound like a capability
18:44:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> .. the whole management area might need a different handling
18:44:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> +1
18:45:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: One job at a time. Let's complete the 'automatability' pass then discuss restructuring.
18:49:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: "Only The Edge Knows For Sure" is talking about the business side and is "do not apply"
18:49:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: We have expanded the Automatability options to include "does not apply", or DNA
18:54:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> jason: We cut and pasted the same categories across all headings, but they apply very poorly in this "management" area
18:54:57 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... we likely will not need to have 'Source' in this section as well
18:55:28 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: These items go to the heart of the edge debate, or the viability of "not-at-source" accessibility solutions
18:56:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> jason: The dimensions of Source, Trade-offs, Benefit, Automatability just do not apply in this section.
18:57:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Can you make a business process decision to rely on automatability as a viable accessibility solution for some sites?
19:03:24 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: DNA abbreviation
19:03:31 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: DNA stands for "does not apply"
19:11:48 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: Accessibility Editing, By Site Owner
19:11:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: DNA
19:17:21 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: Accessibility Statement Discoverability
19:19:46 <Lionel_Wolberger> WAI-Adapt there is a specification in development called Well Known Destinations
19:20:00 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: In WAI-Adapt there is a specification in development called Well Known Destinations
19:20:21 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... this will enable the consistent discovery of an accessibility statement
19:20:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... and hols the promise of making those statements machine readable in the future
19:21:04 <Lionel_Wolberger> jason: But this item, "Accessibility Statement Availability" is about accessibility statement generation
19:21:24 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: The idea is that we take common destinations, like an accessibility statement, and make them discoverable
19:24:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> jason: I do think you can generate an accessibility statement automatically. It might not include everything, but you could.
19:25:54 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: I agree, many cogent parts of such a statement can be automatically generated
19:26:55 <Lionel_Wolberger> jason: You need permission to create it, but it could be hosted anywhere
19:27:11 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... but the discoverable 'well known destination' would need to be configured by Amazon
19:31:54 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: Next meeting agenda
19:32:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> jason: If a new member joins, we should start at the concept of a11y at the edge, or post-source
19:32:16 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: +1
19:32:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: +1
19:32:25 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
19:32:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/22-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
19:33:03 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, end meeting
19:33:03 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been janina, Lionel_Wolberger, Jason
19:33:05 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
19:33:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/22-a11yedge-minutes.html Zakim
19:33:11 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, Lionel_Wolberger; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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