W3C

– DRAFT –
WAI-Adapt Teleconference

21 May 2024

Attendees

Present
Abhinav, janina, Lionel_Wolberger, matatk
Regrets
-
Chair
Lionel
Scribe
janina, Lionel_Wolberger, matatk

Meeting minutes

Well-known destinations

<matatk> gb, off

matatk: janina and I suggest we could use new gh issues each week as the basis for our agenda.

matatk: This will require us to (a) encourage new issues [get a draft out] and (b) use gh for specific issues [like we used to]

matatk: Since AC mtg have been reaching out for followup

matatk: Have response from one, waiting for a the additional ones

matatk: No tech feedback yet, but working on communications for that

Logistics

matatk: I'm away next Tuesday

matatk: Janina is away on the 11th

janina: I propose we skip next week's call

Abhinav: +1

janina: Proposal is the next Adapt call is the 4th of June. Let's give ourselves clear actions for next time.

Lionel_Wolberger: +1

RESOLUTION: Next Adapt call will be the 4th of June

Well-known actions :-)

Abhinav: What are we going to put out as a proposal? Will we incorporate updates?

matatk: Key things: 1. Follow up with AC participants who had opinions; 2. Update docs esp Explainer and early spec draft that reflects Explainer

matatk: Hopefully, AC people with opinions will join a future call with us

matatk: We need a "straw doc" to have something to discuss

matatk: Shortly thereafter we can decide whether that's FPWD ready

matatk: Hopes to have drafts by next mtg

Abhinav: Are we clear what we want from the people we're contacting?

Abhinav: Various tech approaches?

matatk: Both and all--We have use case validation from our COGA conversation ...

matatk: The AC participants are interested in what's appropriate for solving our needs/reqs

matatk: That's why it's appropriate for us to have documentation that supports our approach

matatk: Specifically, the AC people I'm contacting were interested in participating

matatk: One is the actual author of the IETF WKU

Abhinav: Should we limit Explainer to one tech approach? Or do we need to publish other approaches and why we accept or reject them?

matatk: It's a bit different now because it's early work

matatk: Generally, an Explainer explains the decided approach. But, the alternatives considered are always important in an Explainer

matatk: Even though we're not yet locked in on it, we do have a leading candidate and we should draft the Explainer as what we've decided because that's what was presented to the AC

matatk: Use cases go first in the Explainer, and they're very important to a successful effort

Abhinav: Concerned to have open questions addressed

Abhinav: Or that we're aware and plan to take it up later

matatk: Definitely need an Open Questions section

janina: We're engaging the people we need who can help us solve for the use cases we have for WKD. So we don't need to address this all ourselves.

janina: The AC is the body of people who will have a vote, and need to agree, on what approach we are taking. We have to convince the wider W3C that what we're proposing makes sense. This includes use cases, as well as other approaches considered.

Abhinav: Just concerned to capture our open questions and get them into the Explainer, even if we don't have full content for them

matatk: First draft is something we aready have--it's on github

matatk: What I'm talking is what I expect to have for our next mtg

matatk: We will have open questions without much detail

matatk: We will be showing the specifically interested AC people our solutions approaches

matatk: Phps that includes a request that IETF version up their WKU

matatk: Once we're happy with our explainer and draft spec, we go to the formal FPWD

matatk: That's where we need to be very clear and reasonably complete

matatk: That's where we ask for wide review, FPWD means "First Public Working Draft"

matatk: If FPWD has enough detail for implementation, it may be implemented

matatk: Too much detail now could well be wasted work, because it can change; and likely will change

W3C Process Bible: https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Process/

Recommendation Track info: https://www.w3.org/2023/Process-20231103/#rec-track

Abhinav: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8615/

Abhinav: Have we read RFC 8615 for a complete understanding

Abhinav: URL needs to be registered and what it's for, but the spec doesn't define what's returned; could be json, text, etc

Abhinav: Seems to support complex responses to facilitat our more nuanced needs

matatk: Suggest a gh issue to make sure we all come up to speed!

Symbols

Lionel_Wolberger: Puts up AAC approach for form fields

Lionel_Wolberger: I was trying to recruit, and found that the Task Fore landing page is out of date
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/adapt/
… we need links to the former Content draft, etc
… Janina suggests that we take this up in June

Issue 240

janina: Russell sent back a corrected graphic. I propose that means matatk can post on issue 240 now. Agree?

janina: Does anyone object to using the corrected graphic, and response to 240 we previously discussed?

RESOLUTION: matatk to respond on issue 240 as discussed

Summary of resolutions

  1. Next Adapt call will be the 4th of June
  2. matatk to respond on issue 240 as discussed
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All speakers: Abhinav, janina, Lionel_Wolberger, matatk

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