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10:58:58 <kaz> meeting: WoT Use Cases
10:59:10 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Luca_Barbatos
10:59:14 <kaz> chair: Mizushima
11:02:04 <kaz> agenda: https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/TODO/20240515.md
11:05:21 <kaz> q+
11:05:41 <kaz> q-
11:05:48 <luca_barbato> scribenick: luca_barbato
11:06:05 <luca_barbato> topic: Minutes
11:06:38 <kaz> regrets+ Ege
11:08:06 <kaz> present+ Michael_McCool
11:08:47 <luca_barbato> s/Minutes/Logistics
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11:09:24 <luca_barbato> miz: I'd cancel the 5th June call, since I'll be in vacation
11:10:17 <luca_barbato> [[[
11:10:21 <Tomo> [No changes from the previous plan on 8 May 2024
11:10:21 <Tomo> May-15: Fix Github Issue template using YAML and Initial discussion on Requirements Template
11:10:21 <Tomo> May-22 and May-29: Fix basic Functional Requirements Template
11:10:21 <Tomo> June-12 and June-19: Fix basic Technical Requirements Template
11:10:24 <luca_barbato> ]]]
11:10:40 <luca_barbato> miz: Any objection for the next meeting plans?
11:11:09 <luca_barbato> <no objection>
11:11:30 <luca_barbato> topic: Minutes
11:11:38 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2024/05/08-wot-uc-minutes.html May-9
11:11:42 <kaz> s/9/8/
11:14:12 <luca_barbato> miz: Anything to change for the past minutes?
11:14:21 <luca_barbato> <nothing to change>
11:14:31 <luca_barbato> subtopic: Discussion point
11:14:48 <luca_barbato> [[[
11:14:55 <Tomo> Github issue template using YAML
11:14:56 <Tomo> confirmed the YAML-based template includes all the content from the MD-based template.
11:14:56 <Tomo> additional notes from old template are also included in YAML-based template.
11:14:56 <Tomo> further improvement for the YAML template to be done using GitHub Issues and PRs
11:14:57 <Tomo> Question about the need for submitter's email address (discussion to be continued)
11:14:57 <Tomo> RESOLUTION: While not required for submission of a use case for consideration, the email of the submitter should be requested and recorded before a use case is published in case followup is necessary. These emails will be kept private and only used for communication on the use case.
11:15:01 <luca_barbato> ]]]
11:15:23 <luca_barbato> miz: Anybody wants to add additional discussion points for today?
11:15:57 <luca_barbato> <all agree>
11:16:37 <luca_barbato> topic: Fix YAML-based issue template
11:17:09 <luca_barbato> subtopic: Issue #281
11:17:25 <luca_barbato> q+
11:18:04 <luca_barbato> lb: the issue is closed because the new issue template addresses it?
11:18:08 <luca_barbato> miz: Yes
11:18:17 <kaz> i|the issue|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/281 Issue 281 - Mention Possibility of External Submissions via Issues|
11:18:23 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
11:18:26 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:18:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/15-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz
11:18:35 <kaz> ack lu
11:18:40 <luca_barbato> subtopic: Issue #288
11:18:56 <luca_barbato> miz: mm found some typos
11:19:48 <luca_barbato> miz: I fixed them with the PR #292
11:19:53 <Tomo> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/292
11:20:37 <luca_barbato> miz: is it ok to merge?
11:20:47 <luca_barbato> <all agree>
11:21:19 <luca_barbato> q+
11:23:09 <luca_barbato> lb: Would be good to always use rebase-and-merge so we keep the history linear
11:23:16 <luca_barbato> mm: No objection
11:23:37 <kaz> q+
11:23:58 <kaz> ack lu
11:25:18 <luca_barbato> kaz: I'm all also ok with rebase-merge
11:25:43 <luca_barbato> ... We should suggest and make it a policy
11:26:06 <luca_barbato> mm: We can discuss it in the main call, but we can use it on the UC task force for now
11:26:45 <luca_barbato> subtopic: Issue #289
11:26:54 <Tomo> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/289
11:27:11 <kaz> s/rebase-merge/rebase-merge, but also ok with ordinary merge for this PR since it's not problematic/
11:27:27 <luca_barbato> miz: I agree we have multiple lists of stakeholders and we should keep a single list
11:28:13 <luca_barbato> mm: The security TF has the most developed list, but the current usecases is using the other list, so if we pick the Security one we need to update the names in them
11:28:26 <kaz> s/We should suggest and make it a policy/If we want to use rebase instead of merge, probably we should discuss that during the main call and suggest we use rebase for clearer log as our policy./
11:28:47 <luca_barbato> miz: Iuca created a PR to address the UI concern
11:28:53 <kaz> s/Iuca/Luca/
11:29:19 <luca_barbato> mm: Would be nice to link to the Security guideline with the description of the other stakeholders
11:29:29 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/289|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/289 Issue 289 - [UC Template] Stakeholders|
11:29:31 <luca_barbato> ... let's compare the two lists
11:32:10 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/wot-security/#wot-threat-model-stakeholders WoT Security Note - 3.2.1 WoT Primary Stakeholders
11:32:11 <kaz> q+
11:32:39 <kaz> ack k
11:32:50 <luca_barbato> mm: <shows the lists for Security and Architecture>
11:33:05 <kaz> q+
11:33:26 <kaz> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/new?assignees=&labels=UC&projects=&template=sample-usecase-template.yml&title=Add+new+use+case%3A+%3Ctitle%3E
11:33:46 <luca_barbato> https://github.com/lu-zero/wot-usecases/issues/new?assignees=&labels=UC&projects=&template=subsection-test.yml&title=Add+new+use+case%3A+%3Ctitle%3E
11:34:02 <luca_barbato> mm: Can we see a preview
11:34:37 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/new?assignees=&labels=UC&projects=&template=sample-usecase-template.yml&title=Add+new+use+case%3A+%3Ctitle%3E|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/new?assignees=&labels=UC&projects=&template=sample-usecase-template.yml&title=Add+new+use+case%3A+%3Ctitle%3E Preview|
11:34:40 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:34:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/15-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz
11:34:55 <kaz> q+
11:36:42 <kaz> q?
11:36:50 <luca_barbato> mm: I'd rather have a checklist with a link for each item to their description
11:37:07 <luca_barbato> lb: Ok, can be done
11:37:43 <luca_barbato> kaz: We should try checkboxes we can try it, for the link to the definitions we can do that later
11:40:02 <luca_barbato> lb: Checkboxes can be implemented via https://docs.github.com/en/communities/using-templates-to-encourage-useful-issues-and-pull-requests/syntax-for-githubs-form-schema#checkboxes
11:40:46 <kaz> s/We should try checkboxes we can try it/Given McCool suggested we use checkboxes within his original Issue, we should try checkboxes as the style/
11:41:00 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:41:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/15-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz
11:42:28 <kaz> q?
11:42:30 <kaz> ack k
11:42:46 <luca_barbato> lb: I'll update the PR later today
11:44:21 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:44:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/15-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz
11:44:29 <luca_barbato> miz: Luca will change the PR while Michael will provide the links with the definitions and the up to date list
11:46:17 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 286
11:46:29 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/286 Issue 286 - [UC Template] "Submitter" should indicate Real Name(s)
11:46:46 <kaz> q+
11:47:14 <kaz> ack k
11:47:48 <kaz> q+
11:48:51 <luca_barbato> kaz: Since Ege is unavailable we can discuss the PR next week
11:49:05 <kaz> ack k
11:49:18 <luca_barbato> ... and We can address the problem with emails and Real Names separately
11:49:33 <luca_barbato> mm: Agreed
11:49:48 <kaz> q+
11:50:18 <kaz> ack k
11:50:58 <luca_barbato> mm: I can comment on Ege PR right now
11:51:16 <kaz> i/I can/kaz: how to proceed with this issue?/
11:51:23 <kaz> i/how to/scribenick: kaz/
11:51:31 <luca_barbato> subtopic: Issue #287
11:51:34 <kaz> i/I can/scribenick: luca_barbato/
11:51:54 <luca_barbato> miz: I agree with Michael opinion
11:52:15 <kaz> i|I agree|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/287 Issue 287 - [UC Template] "What to be done?" is ambiguous|
11:53:24 <kaz> q+
11:54:04 <kaz> ack k
11:54:07 <luca_barbato> mm: I'm updating the order in the issue
11:54:39 <luca_barbato> kaz: If everybody is ok with that, we'll use that order
11:55:18 <luca_barbato> lb: Since we all agree, I'd go with that order.
11:55:45 <kaz> i|If eve|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/287#issuecomment-2112328535 McCool's comment|
11:55:49 <luca_barbato> <everybody agrees>
11:55:57 <kaz> [[ Summary, Why WoT, Gaps, Description ]]
11:55:57 <Tomo> 1. sumarry 2. Why WoT 3.Gaps 4.Description
11:56:04 <kaz> s/[[ Summary, Why WoT, Gaps, Description ]]//
11:56:26 <luca_barbato> miz: I'd close this meeting
11:57:03 <luca_barbato> <adjourned>
11:57:27 <kaz> s/1. sumarry 2. Why WoT 3.Gaps 4.Description/1. summary, 2. Why WoT, 3.Gaps, 4.Description/
11:57:35 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:57:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/15-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz
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