Meeting minutes
<JMcSorley> meeting minutes from 05/01/2024: https://
last weeks muinits are at https://
Lisa, we also want to use auto captions on zoom so people can use auto translate
discusion on scedule with difficalt of getting people in diffrent sides of the world
Makutos sucgestion on changing the time every 6 month so people can participate somethimes
looking at times survey
none are all green
<JMcSorley> time survey: https://
Japan is very important
Option 1: Decide on one meeting time that is convenient for most members and stick with that consistent time for all meetings. One downside to this option is that some members will always be inconvenienced by having to meet at night.
Option 2: Stick to the schedule of two meetings per month, but hold the meeting on the 1st Wednesday of the month at a time that is convenient for people in Europe and hold the meeting on the 2nd Wednesday of the month at a time that is convenient for people in Asia. The same agenda items will be discussed at both meetings. One downside to this
option is that progress will be slowed because the same agenda has to be covered twice in a month. Also, voting might be more complicated
Option 3: Set up chairs in two parts of the world - one set that represents Europe/US and one group that represents Asia/US. The chairs will coordinate with each other to make sure they are covering the same agenda items, but they will hold meetings that are convenient for people in their respective time zones. Notes will be taken in English for
all meetings. One downside to this option is that you would never have a meeting where people from Europe and Asia are in a meeting together and you would have to rely heavily on thorough notes. Also, voting might be more complicated.
Option 4: Switch the meeting time twice a year. For 6 months, the time will be convenient for people in Europe and for 6 months, it will be convenient for people in Asia. The downside for this is that the time would not be consistent, so multiple notices would need to be made to help people understand when the time change would happen.
<JMcSorley> +1 for Option 4
option 4
<Philipp> +1 for Option 4
<MURATA> +1 for Option 4
any objections?
katie also says 4
<JMcSorley> Katy's having trouble with IRC - she voted in Zoom for Option 4
6 month at current time. gives chance to recruit in eu. and then swithch to tokoyo friendly time.
makuto: this is relatively easy compared to other groups
keeping to current time until november
<JMcSorley> Propose meeting at 9:00 a.m. from May - September; November - April will find a different time. Please vote yes/no
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<JMcSorley> +1
<MURATA> +1
<Philipp> +1
<JMcSorley> Katy says +1
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<Zakim> Lisa, you wanted to say we should start with a Japan friendly time
<JMcSorley> proposed process for reviewing COGA patterns: https://
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spread sheet for content useable , what patterns are problem
everyone gets there own tab
todays minits are at
https://
note coga still has an internationalization subgroup
there was some feedback
https://
<JMcSorley> Lisa: There's a tracker for Internationalization, so if we can find issues that have internationalization concerns in GitHub, we can find their concerns
<JMcSorley> Lisa: COGA members copied issues into a spreadsheet because it was easier for us to work in a spreadsheet than in GitHub, and we thought issues were closed, but they were not
<JMcSorley> Lisa: We just missed some things that were important for internationalization.
<JMcSorley> Lisa: For exampled - with tense, we used language in our guidance that would not work for all languages because we didn't understand those languages, so our guidance should have been more flexible.
<JMcSorley> Lisa: text orientation is also important and we need to address it
<JMcSorley> Lisa: Reviewing patterns in COGA is not going to be enough - we also need to review the objectives.
<JMcSorley> Lisa: We tried to internationalize our personas, but we didn't do a good job - we did not do a good job of reflecting genuine experiences of people in different cultures and geographies.
<JMcSorley> Lisa: We also didn't address non-native speakers who might also have a learning disability
<JMcSorley> Lisa: People may have very different reasons for having difficulty with communication
https://
Jna: talk though the objectives
to get anyhing into wcag, 3.0 we have to have good tests
<Katy> Arabic, Chinese Mandarin, English, Hindi, Russian
<JMcSorley> Lisa: The purpose of coming up with different languages was to help us develop non-normative tests to help people with implementation of COGA recommendations
<JMcSorley> Lisa: We need to add a section in the document on sensitivities to help us understand what may or may not be offensive in different cultures
and also sensitivities for coga and mental health
Jan- will add to our main google docs
getting started
and add links to all our other docs there as well
Jan: should it be in googledocs or on the wiki ?
or both
katie: just one
philliep: one place - wiki is more findable
mukoto likes github, but others might not like it
Jan: comunity wiki seems good place for people to find
Phili: if we use googledocs make sure it is indexed on the wiki
Jna: draft document
<JMcSorley> draft purpose doc: https://
pourpose doc
first attemp but we can change it, depends on the vote
next call 1st june
5th june
please review beofre hand
lisa: action draft page for recuring with draft email