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12:38:10 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
12:48:37 <janina> Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
12:48:46 <janina> Date: 15 May 2024
12:49:29 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
12:49:29 <janina> Agenda+ TPAC 2024 Planning
12:49:29 <janina> agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
12:49:32 <janina> agenda+ HR A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
12:49:35 <janina> agenda+ Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues
12:49:38 <janina> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
12:49:40 <janina> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
12:49:43 <janina> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://github.com/issues/assigned
12:49:45 <janina> agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
12:49:48 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
12:49:50 <janina> agenda+ be done
12:49:58 <janina>  Chair: Matthew
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14:00:11 <matatk> agenda?
14:00:12 <Dr_Keith> present+
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14:01:52 <matatk> gb, off
14:01:52 <gb> matatk, issues and names were already off.
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14:02:34 <mike_beganyi> present+
14:03:00 <Roy> present+
14:03:24 <mike_beganyi> scribe+
14:03:59 <mike_beganyi> zakim, take up item 1
14:03:59 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
14:04:40 <mike_beganyi> zakim, close this item
14:04:40 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
14:04:41 <Zakim> I see 10 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:04:41 <Zakim> 2. TPAC 2024 Planning [from janina]
14:04:42 <mike_beganyi> zakim, take up item 2
14:04:42 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- TPAC 2024 Planning -- taken up [from janina]
14:05:02 <mike_beganyi> matatk: Looking for suggestions of other groups with whom we should meet
14:06:09 <mike_beganyi> matatk: think we've got 5 or 6 other groups (WHATWG, media groups, publishing, CSS, etc.)
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14:06:59 <Fredrik> present+
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14:08:12 <matatk> TPAC 2023 meetings, for reference: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023
14:10:39 <Gottfried> maybe virtually from Wed-Fri
14:10:42 <Fredrik> +1
14:10:42 <Fazio> +1
14:10:55 <Fredrik> +q virtual
14:10:55 <Fazio> in person
14:10:55 <mike_beganyi> matatk: How many are thinking to be part of TPAC this year, virtual or in person
14:10:55 <NehaJ> +1 virtual
14:10:56 <janina> +1 in person
14:10:58 <Fredrik> +1 virtual, I mean...
14:11:04 <Nichole> +1 vitual
14:11:04 <mike_beganyi> +1 virtual
14:11:06 <Fredrik> q- virtual
14:11:06 <Fazio> +1 in person
14:11:10 <Roy> +1 in person
14:12:10 <mike_beganyi> zakim, take up next item
14:12:10 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from janina]
14:12:41 <mike_beganyi> Roy: Nothing new this week
14:13:02 <mike_beganyi> zakim, close this item
14:13:02 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
14:13:03 <Zakim> I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:13:03 <Zakim> 4. HR A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review [from janina]
14:13:05 <mike_beganyi> zakim, take up next item
14:13:05 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- HR A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from janina]
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14:13:35 <Nichole> Present+
14:13:53 <Nichole> present+
14:13:57 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:13:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/15-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:14:08 <matatk> subtopic: CSS View Transitions
14:14:09 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/192
14:14:33 <mike_beganyi> matatk: [recaps last week's conversation about users being able to disable view transitions]
14:15:00 <mike_beganyi> matatk: Added label to see a resolution to this issue.
14:17:54 <matatk> subtopic: No-motion / forced-reduced-motion issue draft
14:18:06 <matatk> our tracking issue: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/148
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14:19:05 <mike_beganyi> present+
14:19:06 <mike_beganyi> scribe+
14:19:57 <mike_beganyi> matatk: if anyone wants to look at the issue and respond either in GitHub or on list it would be appreciated
14:22:23 <matatk> subtopic: Interaction side?
14:22:46 <matatk> Our tracking link: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/193
14:24:08 <janina> +1 to facilitating putting those in a preferred location!
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14:24:20 <mike_beganyi> matatk: [recaps interaction side discussion: media query to express which side users prefer content to appear]
14:24:22 <Gottfried> present+
14:26:59 <mike_beganyi> Fazio: cognitively this is a good idea
14:27:14 <mike_beganyi> janina: would like the preference to choose where this content appears
14:27:31 <mike_beganyi> Fredrik: interesting cultural issue regarding reading right to left
14:28:08 <mike_beganyi> matatk: Reading the first comment in the thread to determine if it satisfies this concern would be welcome
14:28:39 <mike_beganyi> zakim, take up next item
14:28:39 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues -- taken up [from janina]
14:29:37 <mike_beganyi> matatk: As Roy said, nothing new. We do have one pending—The Ethical Work Prinicples from the TAG
14:29:51 <matatk> subtopic: Ethical Web Principles (TAG)
14:29:56 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/75
14:32:05 <mike_beganyi> matatk: [summarizes thread: very high level principles as to ethics on the web]
14:32:25 <mike_beganyi> Dr_Keith: I'll take a look at the thread, Matthew.
14:32:58 <matatk> subtopic: CSS View Transitions
14:33:02 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/79
14:36:22 <matatk> subtopic: Pointer Events Level 3
14:36:24 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/78
14:37:38 <matatk> What's changed: https://www.w3.org/TR/pointerevents3/#revision-history
14:40:49 <mike_beganyi> matatk: If any of you have longstanding accessibility concerns with the above, we're at the point where feedback is critical.
14:41:16 <matatk> q?
14:41:41 <mike_beganyi> zakim, take up next item
14:41:41 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from janina]
14:42:05 <mike_beganyi> Roy: Nothing new on TR this week.
14:42:13 <mike_beganyi> zakim, close this item
14:42:13 <Zakim> agendum 6 closed
14:42:14 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:42:14 <Zakim> 7. CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues [from janina]
14:42:16 <mike_beganyi> zakim, take up next item
14:42:16 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from janina]
14:42:19 <mike_beganyi> zakim, close this item
14:42:19 <Zakim> agendum 7 closed
14:42:20 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:42:20 <Zakim> 8. Actions Checkin (Specs) https://github.com/issues/assigned [from janina]
14:42:24 <mike_beganyi> zakim, take up next item
14:42:24 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://github.com/issues/assigned -- taken up [from janina]
14:43:15 <mike_beganyi> zakim, close this item
14:43:15 <Zakim> agendum 8 closed
14:43:16 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:43:16 <Zakim> 9. Task Force & Deliverables Updates [from janina]
14:43:17 <mike_beganyi> zakim, take up next item
14:43:18 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- Task Force & Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from janina]
14:48:30 <matatk> subtopic: RQTF
14:49:45 <mike_beganyi> janina: Expect a receive a request to advance CTAUR next week. We had a wide public review quite some time ago. We've had several drafts on CTAUR (collaborative tools). Trying to extrapolate what accessibility requirements are in collaborative environments. Had a lot of comments from COGA.
14:49:52 <Fredrik> Not to put too fine a point on it, but Zoom would technically also fall under CTAUR.
14:50:12 <matatk> Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements (CTAUR): https://www.w3.org/TR/ctaur/
14:50:16 <mike_beganyi> janina: What we haven't had is enough review from a wider audience. If things go as planned, APA will publish a wide-review draft of CTAUR.
14:50:30 <janina> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/wiki/AI,_Machine_Learning_and_Accessibility
14:50:45 <mike_beganyi> janina: We decided to do an Accessibility User Requirements for AI. We'll be looking for comments and participants.
14:50:49 <Fazio> Absolutely
14:50:57 <Fredrik> Could we pleasepleaseplease find a way to call it AINUR? #TolkienFandom
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14:51:23 <Fazio> relates to maturity model
14:51:24 <mike_beganyi> janina: Main problem is to scope this work appropriately. We need to ensure proper scoping.
14:51:34 <mike_beganyi> q+
14:52:01 <Dr_Keith> are we looking at AI experience, delivery of content, or user interfaces
14:52:31 <mike_beganyi> Fazio: Might be a tricky one. Will be complex given all the circumstances around LLMs and functional considerations etc.
14:53:20 <mike_beganyi> janina: A need is one thing. Getting work done in that AI accessibility area is a different thing.
14:53:37 <matatk> q?
14:53:56 <matatk> scribe+
14:54:11 <matatk> mike_beganyi: Interested in getting involved in this - is there a link I can follow?
14:54:15 <Fredrik> Apart form Jutta Treveranus, I would also give a heads-up about Klaus Miesenberger and the Linz Uni's work on AI.
14:54:22 <matatk> janina: The link is in the doc; RQTF call is the hour before APA.
14:55:09 <mike_beganyi> zakim, take up next item
14:55:09 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, mike_beganyi
14:55:12 <mike_beganyi> ack mike_beganyi
14:55:14 <mike_beganyi> zakim, take up next item
14:55:14 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Other Business -- taken up [from janina]
14:55:28 <mike_beganyi> zakim, close this item
14:55:28 <Zakim> agendum 10 closed
14:55:29 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
14:55:29 <Zakim> 11. be done [from janina]
14:55:29 <mike_beganyi> zakim, take up next item
14:55:30 <Zakim> agendum 11 -- be done -- taken up [from janina]
14:55:31 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:55:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/15-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:56:11 <mike_beganyi> zakim, end meeting
14:56:12 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Dr_Keith, matatk, janina, Fazio, Nichole, NehaJ, mike_beganyi, Roy, Fredrik, Gottfried
14:56:13 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:56:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/15-apa-minutes.html Zakim
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14:56:19 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, mike_beganyi; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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