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13:35:59 <addison> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
13:36:04 <addison> Chair: Addison Phillips
13:36:12 <agendabot> agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/6d544156-352c-46f2-b6ec-383b4e2462fb/20240509T150000/
13:36:12 <agendabot> clear agenda
13:36:12 <agendabot> agenda+ Agenda Review
13:36:12 <agendabot> agenda+ Action Items
13:36:15 <agendabot> agenda+ Info Share
13:36:17 <agendabot> agenda+ RADAR Review
13:36:19 <agendabot> agenda+ Pending Issue Review
13:36:22 <agendabot> agenda+ Adlam and N'Ko LReq documents
13:36:24 <agendabot> agenda+ Requirements for Consumers in String-meta
13:36:27 <agendabot> agenda+ HTML input type=email
13:36:29 <agendabot> agenda+ AOB?
13:37:03 <addison> agenda+ Review `needs-resolution` and `needs-attention` issues
13:37:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/09-i18n-minutes.html addison
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13:57:56 <addison> present+ Addison, JcK
14:00:09 <addison> present+ Atsushi
14:01:44 <addison> present+ Fuqiao, Richard
14:02:46 <atsushi> scribe+
14:02:53 <addison> agenda?
14:03:13 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 1
14:03:13 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:03:25 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 2
14:03:25 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Action Items -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:03:36 <addison> #93
14:03:36 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/93 -> Action 93  create best practices for consumers in string-meta (on aphillips) due 2024-04-25
14:03:48 <atsushi> addison: in agenda item
14:03:55 <addison> #90
14:03:56 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/90 -> Action 90  steal some of henri's text from scroll-to-text-fragment for string-search (on aphillips) due 2024-04-18
14:04:10 <addison> #87
14:04:11 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/87 -> Action 87  write to IETF ADs about RFC9457 with JcK's assistance (on aphillips) due 2024-04-04
14:04:16 <atsushi> addison: #90, haven't published yet
14:04:21 <addison> #79
14:04:22 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/79 -> Action 79  schedule a follow-up call with WHATNOT in ~April (on aphillips) due 2024-03-07
14:04:28 <atsushi> addison: #87, haven't submitted yet
14:04:37 <addison> #78
14:04:38 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/78 -> Action 78  compare infra to i18n-glossary export list and report back (on aphillips) due 2024-03-07
14:04:40 <atsushi> addison: #79, will get date for meeting
14:04:47 <atsushi> addison: #78, will back as agenda
14:04:50 <addison> #43
14:04:51 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/43 -> Action 43  pull together the list of win/mac/etc apis for setting base direction and/or language (on aphillips) due 2023-09-18
14:05:24 <addison> #33
14:05:25 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/33 -> Action 33 Close issues marked `close?` or bring to WG for further review (on aphillips)
14:05:26 <atsushi> addison: #49, drafted and article done
14:05:26 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/49 -> CLOSED Action 49 contact unicode about emphasis mark skipping (on aphillips) due 2023-10-05
14:05:47 <addison> #12
14:05:48 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/12 -> Action 12 Upgrade/edit the explainer to address issues raised by google (on aphillips) due 18 Jul 2023
14:05:54 <atsushi> addison: #33, needs attention on close?, and will touch later today
14:06:04 <atsushi> addison: #12, explainer done, and would want to close
14:06:12 <atsushi> ... need agenda item to review updates?
14:06:19 <addison> action: addison: add explainer to next week's agenda
14:06:27 <atsushi> xfq: works for me
14:06:27 <gb> Created -> action #97 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/97
14:06:27 <addison> #8
14:06:27 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/8 -> Action 8 Follow up on the status of Canvas and formatted text (on aphillips) due 18 Jul 2023
14:06:30 <addison> #7
14:06:30 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/7 -> Action 7 Remind shepherds to tend to their awaiting comment resolutions (Evergreen) (on aphillips, xfq, himorin, r12a, bert-github) due 18 Jul 2023
14:06:48 <atsushi> addison: seen no action for #7
14:07:03 <atsushi> ... character markup on bikeshed/respec?
14:07:09 <atsushi> r12a: haven't heard anything yet
14:07:34 <addison> #96
14:07:34 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/96 -> Action 96  evaluate and where necessary fix i18n-glossary#76 (on r12a) due 2024-05-02
14:07:45 <addison> #94
14:07:46 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/94 -> Action 94  send jck the text from proposed idn section to jck for suggestions (on xfq) due 2024-05-02
14:08:01 <atsushi> xfq: #94, done via email
14:08:07 <addison> close #94
14:08:08 <gb> Closed -> issue #94 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/94
14:08:24 <addison> #89
14:08:24 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/89 -> Action 89  update i18n specs to support dark mode (on xfq) due 2024-04-18
14:08:57 <atsushi> xfq: #89, blocked by CSS spec issue, mediaquery doesn't sync html meta color scheme
14:09:13 <atsushi> ... need to fix spec and browser first
14:10:27 <addison> #4
14:10:27 <atsushi> addison: keep item for now
14:10:27 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/4 -> Action 4 Work with respec and bikeshed to provide the character markup template as easy-to-use markup (on r12a) due 27 Jul 2023
14:10:40 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 3
14:10:40 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Info Share -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:10:59 <xfq> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/TPAC2024/
14:11:01 <atsushi> xfq: one thing on TPAC survey
14:11:17 <atsushi> ... addison mentioned before, and WBS is due by May 20
14:11:22 <atsushi> addison: already filed
14:12:17 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 4
14:12:17 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- RADAR Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:12:33 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
14:12:53 <atsushi> addison: Web translation API explainer from WICG
14:13:28 <atsushi> xfq: will ask PLH for request/coordination
14:13:36 <atsushi> addison: this is early review opportunity
14:14:00 <atsushi> xfq: looks like spec really relevant to us
14:14:43 <atsushi> addison: by 6 June?
14:15:14 <atsushi> addison: would invite everyone to review pointer events lv3
14:15:26 <addison> agenda?
14:15:43 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 6
14:15:44 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Adlam and N'Ko LReq documents -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:15:50 <atsushi> s/pointer events lv3/web translation api
14:16:22 <atsushi> r12a: wanted to check whether FPDNote of Adlam, N'Ko is update
14:16:22 <xfq> rrsagent, make log public
14:16:25 <xfq> rrsagent, make minutes
14:16:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/09-i18n-minutes.html xfq
14:16:52 <atsushi> r12a: Adlam links to type samples in repositories, of W3C and myself
14:17:04 <addison> MOTION: publish Adlam Layout Requirements as FPWD
14:17:07 <xfq> regrets+ Bert
14:17:15 <r12a> +1
14:17:16 <xfq> +1
14:17:16 <addison> +1
14:17:17 <atsushi> +1
14:17:41 <addison> RESOLVED: publish Adlam Layout Requirements as FPWD
14:17:50 <addison> agenda?
14:17:57 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 8
14:17:57 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- HTML input type=email -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:18:26 <atsushi> addison: many flow on thread of this, JcK and I triggered email offline
14:18:51 <atsushi> ... problem is PR made by me fixed, but at old machine
14:19:02 <atsushi> ... took time but update this PR
14:19:23 <atsushi> ... bunch of discussions what restriction we need to place on implementation
14:19:55 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 10
14:19:55 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Review `needs-resolution` and `needs-attention` issues -- taken up [from addison]
14:20:10 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Aneeds-attention
14:20:15 <atsushi> addison: need-resolution and needs-attention are left for this week
14:20:28 <atsushi> ... 14 needs-attention are left
14:20:38 <addison> #1783
14:20:39 <gb> Issue 1783 not found
14:20:50 <addison> i18n-activity#1783
14:20:51 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1783 -> Issue 1783 CSS `text-spacing` property and its longhands (by w3cbot) [close?] [tracker] [s:css-text] [needs-attention] [tag-tracker] [other:tag]
14:21:52 <atsushi> r12a: getting to it, constantly back to many CSS issues. it will take a while
14:22:01 <addison> i18n-activity#1763
14:22:01 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1763 -> Issue 1763 Make computation of directionality account for Shadow DOM. (by w3cbot) [close?] [tracker] [s:html] [needs-attention] [i:bidirectional_text] [alreq] [hlreq] [t:bidi_markup] [whatwg]
14:22:21 <addison> whatwg/html#9796
14:22:22 <gb> https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/9796 -> MERGED Pull Request 9796 Make computation of directionality account for Shadow DOM. (by dbaron) [addition/proposal] [topic: shadow] [i18n-tracker] [i18n-alreq] [i18n-hlreq]
14:22:55 <atsushi> addison: not sure what to say, but anyone to review?
14:23:43 <addison> i18n-activity#1758
14:23:44 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1758 -> Issue 1758 Reference for punycode-encoding of IDN (by w3cbot) [tracker] [needs-attention] [s:rdf-concepts] [wg:rdf-star]
14:23:45 <atsushi> addison: no comment to review, will close #9896
14:23:45 <gb> Issue 9896 not found
14:24:40 <xfq> s/will close #9896/will close #1763
14:25:29 <addison> i18n-activity#1620
14:25:30 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1620 -> Issue 1620 [focusgroup] i18n: should arrow key navigation follow text direction? (by w3cbot) [close?] [tracker] [needs-attention] [s:open-ui] [cg:open-ui]
14:25:50 <addison> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2024JanMar/0099.html
14:25:57 <atsushi> addison: #1620, some discussion recently, email above
14:25:58 <gb> Issue 1620 not found
14:26:36 <atsushi> xfq: for #1763, any action to do? JcK comment submitted for punycode
14:26:37 <gb> Issue 1763 not found
14:27:25 <atsushi> ... I believe current comment could be enough, this is not only issue for them
14:28:37 <atsushi> xfq: will check spec and context, and will comment for this
14:29:45 <atsushi> ... to prevent A-labels, need to specifically mention about it
14:30:58 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 9
14:30:58 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- AOB? -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:31:41 <addison> Topic: String-meta bps for consumers
14:31:42 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/string-meta/pull/87
14:31:43 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/string-meta/pull/87 -> Pull Request 87 Create best practices for consumers (by aphillips)
14:31:57 <addison> https://deploy-preview-87--string-meta.netlify.app/#bp-consumers
14:32:40 <atsushi> addison: added mustards on this point
14:34:10 <atsushi> r12a: why do we need to normalize language tags?
14:34:41 <atsushi> addison: among other things, Unicode orders extensions, and some obsolete tags replaced
14:36:09 <atsushi> xfq: if most people does not normalize, probabry we need some
14:36:33 <xfq> s/we need some/we can remove this guidance
14:38:15 <atsushi> [BCP47 registry and its forms]
14:42:05 <atsushi> rrsagent, publish minutes
14:42:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/09-i18n-minutes.html atsushi
14:46:39 <addison> zakim, who is here?
14:46:41 <Zakim> Present: Addison, JcK, Atsushi, Fuqiao, Richard
14:46:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see JcK, RRSAgent, Zakim, addison, r12a, atsushi, florian, gb, fantasai, Bert, xfq, Mek, csarven, koji, alastairc, astearns, Rachael, hadleybeeman, eemeli, cwilso,
14:46:41 <Zakim> ... hsivonen, agendabot
14:46:45 <addison> zakim, bye
14:46:45 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Addison, JcK, Atsushi, Fuqiao, Richard
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