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12:57:27 <kaz> meeting: WoT-WG - TD-TF - Slot 2
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12:59:13 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura
12:59:31 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf#May_2_2024
13:00:35 <kaz> present+ Ege_Korkan
13:03:39 <kaz> present+ Kunihiko_Toumura
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13:04:35 <kaz> present+ Mahda_Noura
13:04:43 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner
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13:05:05 <mahda> present+ Mahda_Noura
13:05:28 <kaz> present+ Michael_Koster
13:06:28 <dape> scribe: dape
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13:06:45 <dape> TOPIC: Organizational
13:07:09 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf#May_2_2024 agenda for today
13:07:17 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Draft minutes review
13:07:31 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2024/04/24-wot-td-minutes.html Apr-24
13:07:57 <dape> EK: Any minutes updates ?
13:08:06 <dape> ... none -> approved
13:08:18 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2024/04/25-wot-td-minutes.html Apr-25
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13:08:35 <dape> EK: No request for changes
13:08:36 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
13:08:44 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:08:48 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:08:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/02-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
13:08:56 <dape> ... approving minutes
13:09:14 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Quick Schedule
13:09:40 <dape> EK: Errata related
13:09:47 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2008
13:10:07 <dape> TOPIC: TD
13:10:18 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Ontology errata
13:10:31 <kaz> s/SUBTOPIC: Quick Schedule//
13:10:42 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2008||
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13:11:06 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2008 PR 2008 - Errata fixes
13:11:07 <kaz> q+
13:11:52 <kaz> ack k
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13:13:01 <kaz> present+ Luca_Barbato
13:13:09 <dape7> TOPIC: TD
13:13:23 <kaz> scribenick: dape7
13:13:40 <kaz> s/TOPIC: TD//
13:13:42 <dape7> EK: 2 PRs
13:13:49 <dape7> ... https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2008
13:13:55 <dape7> ... https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2009
13:14:07 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:14:08 <dape7> ... both about ontology errata
13:14:10 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:14:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/02-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
13:14:35 <dape7> EK: There is a process for the errata
13:14:50 <dape7> ... there are issues labels and tracked by scripts
13:15:10 <kaz> i|2 PRs|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2009 PR 2009 - Ontology publication folder synchronization|
13:15:17 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:15:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/02-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
13:15:51 <dape7> ... script starts doing stuff .... since we are not using labels
13:16:02 <dape7> .... no difference between 1.0 and 1.1
13:16:38 <dape7> ... we might need to fork script and filter on TD version
13:16:49 <dape7> q+
13:17:11 <cris> q+
13:17:52 <dape7> EK: or render everything ourselves
13:18:06 <kaz> q+
13:18:39 <dape7> DP: Is there any downside when rendering ourselves ?
13:18:57 <dape7> EK: More work.. in case of multiple items
13:19:24 <dape7> CA: Wondering whether we can contribute back our updates
13:19:38 <dape7> ... fork might not be the right choice
13:19:49 <dape7> ... others would benefit
13:19:59 <dape7> EK: Good point
13:20:03 <dape7> ... seems to be on GitHub
13:20:05 <dape7> ack dape7
13:20:09 <dape7> ack dape
13:20:13 <dape7> ack cris
13:20:20 <cris> ack c
13:21:07 <dape7> Kaz: Mechanism is not a rule or policy
13:21:18 <dape7> ... rather best practices
13:22:06 <dape7> ... should use errata labels for errata issues only to avoid confusion
13:22:54 <dape7> EK: one aspect is the technical solution
13:23:14 <dape7> ... but everyone can add labels and we should be careful when using
13:24:46 <dape7> Kaz: We should remind everyone about the errata "mechanism"
13:25:04 <kaz> s/about/of/
13:26:27 <kaz> scribenick: kaz
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13:27:22 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:27:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/02-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
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13:27:55 <kaz> ek: ok
13:28:27 <kaz> ... btw, I tend to prefer option 3 or 5 for the next step
13:28:36 <kaz> ... or option 1
13:28:44 <kaz> q?
13:28:47 <kaz> q-
13:28:49 <kaz> q+
13:29:41 <kaz> ack k
13:30:18 <kaz> kaz: btw, do you mean "generating the HTML manually instead of the JS using the Errata label"?
13:30:25 <kaz> ek: right
13:30:49 <kaz> s/label"?/label" by "create the rendered version ourselves"?/
13:31:03 <kaz> q+
13:31:26 <kaz> ack k
13:31:43 <kaz> kaz: ok
13:32:12 <kaz> ... btw, it would be clearer to put "Opt." to 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5, given you mean those are different options
13:32:15 <kaz> ek: ok
13:32:28 <kaz> ... (and adds "Option" to each)
13:32:57 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2008#issue-2269027063 Ege's comment og PR 2008
13:33:54 <kaz> [ PR 2008 itself has been merged ]
13:34:04 <kaz> ek: will create another issue for the next step
13:34:10 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:34:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/02-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
13:34:33 <kaz> chair: Ege, Koster
13:35:13 <kaz> subtopic: PR 2009
13:35:35 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2009 PR 2009 - Ontology publication folder synchronization
13:36:03 <kaz> ek: the link included in the Editor's draft doesn't work properly
13:36:31 <kaz> ... but it's wrong to put the link within a HTML because the Web browser assumes "text/html" as the media type
13:37:35 <kaz> q+
13:37:35 <cris> q+
13:39:21 <kaz> ack k
13:39:36 <kaz> kaz: could you clarify the point?
13:39:50 <kaz> ek: 2 separate URLs
13:40:01 <kaz> ... one for Download and another for Open
13:40:23 <kaz> [[
13:40:25 <kaz>                         "value": "Download",
13:40:25 <kaz>                         "href": "https://w3c.github.io/wot-resources/td/v1.1/ontology/jsonschema.ttl",
13:40:25 <kaz>                     },
13:40:25 <kaz>                     {
13:40:25 <kaz>                         "value": "Open",
13:40:26 <kaz>                         "href": "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/w3c/wot-resources/main/td/v1.1/ontology/jsonschema.ttl"
13:40:31 <kaz> ]]
13:41:10 <kaz> ca: maybe would be better to just have a link for "Download"
13:41:22 <kaz> ... not a strong opinion, though
13:42:16 <kaz> q?
13:42:18 <kaz> ack c
13:42:51 <kaz> q+
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13:44:32 <kaz> ek: will add some description about the content negotiation mechanism to the Editor's Draft
13:44:35 <kaz> ack k
13:44:42 <kaz> s/Draft/Draft too/
13:44:57 <kaz> topic: Refactoring
13:45:56 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2010 PR 2010 - add binding appendix and fix respec erors
13:47:03 <kaz> -> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/2010/cd6a178...715702f.html#toc diff
13:47:09 <kaz> q+
13:47:26 <kaz> kaz: ok with the PR itself. tx
13:47:36 <kaz> ... let's continue further updates
13:47:39 <kaz> ek: right
13:47:42 <kaz> [ merged ]
13:48:05 <kaz> topic: Binding updates
13:49:33 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-binding-templates/ WoT Binding Templates ED
13:50:06 <kaz> ek: would suggest we publish an updated Note for WoT Binding Templates
13:50:14 <Ege> proposal: Publish the current Binding Templates ED as a WG Note
13:50:24 <kaz> q+
13:51:04 <kaz> ack k
13:51:45 <kaz> kaz: I'm OK with the publication itself
13:51:53 <Ege> proposal: Publish the current Binding Templates ED as a WG Note with the following changes: Adjust the changelog, direct people to the TD in the status section
13:53:05 <kaz> s/itself/itself, but we should explicitly describe our plan to include the content into the TD spec within the Status section (and possibly the diff section) of the Note./
13:53:10 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:53:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/02-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
13:53:17 <Ege> resolution: Publish the current Binding Templates ED as a WG Note with the following changes: Adjust the changelog, direct people to the TD in the status section
13:54:15 <kaz> topic: Project management
13:54:41 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/projects?query=is%3Aopen WoT TD Project
13:55:08 <kaz> ek: we've started to use the above Project (as a PoC)
13:56:41 <kaz> topic: Binding Templates
13:56:46 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/354
13:57:23 <kaz> i/354/subtopic: PR 354/
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13:57:32 <cris> +1 for mergining
13:57:34 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/354|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/354 Delete context directory|
13:57:57 <kaz> q+
13:58:14 <kaz> ack k
13:58:28 <kaz> kaz: so we've changed the directory structure. right?
13:58:31 <kaz> ek: right
13:58:33 <kaz> [ merged ]
13:58:53 <kaz> subtopic: PR 356
13:59:05 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/356 PR 356 - fix: move context tag from Sequence/Choice to NamedMember
14:00:10 <kaz> q+
14:00:20 <kaz> kaz: this is a bug fix. right?
14:00:21 <kaz> ek: correct
14:00:23 <kaz> [ merged ]
14:00:44 <kaz> topic: AOB
14:00:49 <kaz> ek: we're done for today
14:01:23 <kaz> ... we'll continue to discuss registry, errata, etc.
14:01:27 <kaz> [adjourned]
14:01:32 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:01:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/02-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
14:01:50 <kaz> q?
14:01:53 <kaz> q-
14:02:30 <kaz> present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi
14:02:32 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:02:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/02-wot-td-minutes.html kaz