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14:58:12 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio
14:58:25 <Fazio> meeting: Maturity Model
14:58:40 <Fazio> chair: Fazio
14:59:05 <Fazio> Agenda+ New Business
14:59:05 <Fazio> Agenda+ Github Issues 43, 78, 85, 102, 103, 104 (Usability doc feedback) – Look at Procurement Dimension
14:59:05 <Fazio> Agenda+ Maturity Model Scoring Subgroup Update
14:59:05 <Fazio> Agenda+ Github Issue #107 Definition of "Full maturity" needs to be adjusted, as there is no need to optimize anymore by then
14:59:06 <gb> /issues/107 -> #107
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15:06:52 <Fazio> present+
15:06:53 <AngelaBarker> present+
15:06:55 <Mark_Miller> Present+
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15:07:45 <stacey> scribe+
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15:08:03 <stacey> zakim, next item
15:08:03 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Fazio]
15:09:03 <stacey> Jeff: I included a slide on the maturity model in an upcoming presentation
15:10:25 <stacey> Fazio: TPAC coming up, APA probably meeting a full day, hybrid (in person and virtual options to participate). Any groups or topics we should bring up? (TPAC is a week long)
15:11:04 <stacey> Angela: Question- how many from this group join APA meetings?
15:11:24 <stacey> Fazio: I try to attend, but it's early my time
15:14:32 <stacey> zakim, next item
15:14:32 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Github Issues 43, 78, 85, 102, 103, 104 (Usability doc feedback) – Look at Procurement Dimension -- taken up [from Fazio]
15:15:18 <Fazio> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wrhomdc2gJWIkDPOveiH3_ig1bddTMonEhIDZIzohrc/edit#heading=h.nbo7ii79bq92
15:15:23 <Mark_Miller> scribe+
15:15:58 <stacey> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wrhomdc2gJWIkDPOveiH3_ig1bddTMonEhIDZIzohrc/edit#heading=h.nbo7ii79bq92
15:16:20 <Mark_Miller> stacey Thanks to all who contibuted
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15:18:37 <Mark_Miller> staceyTried to plan language. Need people to look at it.
15:19:06 <Rita> Where is the doc?
15:20:26 <Mark_Miller> JKline Requirements for automated and manual testing for final deliverable
15:20:43 <Mark_Miller> stacey What is final deliverable?
15:21:07 <Mark_Miller> JKline Anything.
15:21:40 <Mark_Miller> AngelaBarker Automated and/or test results
15:22:14 <Mark_Miller> JKline Don’t what to get proprietary. An accurate ACR would be okay.
15:23:48 <Mark_Miller> JKline A statement is okay, we don’t want to get to specific
15:24:00 <Mark_Miller> Fazio ACR to verify testing has been performed
15:24:12 <Mark_Miller> Jkline No
15:24:50 <Mark_Miller> JKiline A requirement that automated and manual testing has been performed.
15:25:49 <Mark_Miller> Rita Isn’t the assumption that ACR means you’ve done testing?
15:26:22 <Mark_Miller> JKline No ACR are sometimes written without testing
15:27:52 <Mark_Miller> Fazio Requirement that automated accessibility has been performed on the product, service or final deliverable.
15:27:58 <Mark_Miller> AngelaBarker Manual and/or automated because some orgs only do manual.
15:28:29 <Mark_Miller> AngelaBarker *don't do automated
15:28:56 <Mark_Miller> JKline yes
15:32:45 <Mark_Miller> stacey Stacy will connect with Charles on the github update in the next week or two
15:34:03 <stacey> Jeff: scoring in clean enough state/set up to track. Not the other format that we looked at.Going to send it out to the working group and see about publishing that link in the next publish round
15:35:02 <stacey> Fazio: I don't think it's an issue to change up the scoring. We'll get some trial and error on ti anyway. Please send to the working group.
15:35:35 <stacey> Fazio: maybe sent to accessibility guidelines and APA for feedback?
15:39:08 <stacey> zakim, next item
15:39:08 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Maturity Model Scoring Subgroup Update -- taken up [from Fazio]
15:39:31 <stacey> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/blob/main/draft/A11y%20Maturity%20Template%20Measurements%20Experiment.xlsx
15:39:52 <stacey> Stacey: Select "view raw" link to open it
15:40:22 <stacey> ... open the spreadsheet
15:41:51 <stacey> Fazio: we might want to remove the W3C logo off of the spreadsheet
15:46:12 <stacey> Jeff: full tally tab - taking percentages complete from the other tabs and dropping them into a table. It will tally everything up and show score for the whole model. We can add more columns/info down the road if we need to. Want to make sure only one element that's scored (like can't have something in launch and integrate), so number of count has
15:46:12 <stacey> to match number of proof points on the page.
15:48:07 <stacey> Fazio: next steps: update git hub doc, remove w3c logo, and get it in git and ready to publish
15:49:35 <stacey> Fazio: will send Jeff mailing lists for APA and AGWG
15:50:01 <stacey> zakim, end meeting
15:50:01 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Fazio, AngelaBarker, Mark_Miller, stacey, jkline
15:50:03 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:50:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/01-maturity-minutes.html Zakim
15:50:11 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, stacey; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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