IRC log of maturity on 2024-05-01
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- RRSAgent, make logs Public
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- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio
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- meeting: Maturity Model
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- chair: Fazio
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- Agenda+ New Business
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- Agenda+ Github Issues 43, 78, 85, 102, 103, 104 (Usability doc feedback) – Look at Procurement Dimension
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- Agenda+ Maturity Model Scoring Subgroup Update
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- Agenda+ Github Issue #107 Definition of "Full maturity" needs to be adjusted, as there is no need to optimize anymore by then
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- /issues/107 -> #107
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- Present+
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Fazio]
- 15:09:03 [stacey]
- Jeff: I included a slide on the maturity model in an upcoming presentation
- 15:10:25 [stacey]
- Fazio: TPAC coming up, APA probably meeting a full day, hybrid (in person and virtual options to participate). Any groups or topics we should bring up? (TPAC is a week long)
- 15:11:04 [stacey]
- Angela: Question- how many from this group join APA meetings?
- 15:11:24 [stacey]
- Fazio: I try to attend, but it's early my time
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2 -- Github Issues 43, 78, 85, 102, 103, 104 (Usability doc feedback) – Look at Procurement Dimension -- taken up [from Fazio]
- 15:15:18 [Fazio]
- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wrhomdc2gJWIkDPOveiH3_ig1bddTMonEhIDZIzohrc/edit#heading=h.nbo7ii79bq92
- 15:15:23 [Mark_Miller]
- scribe+
- 15:15:58 [stacey]
- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wrhomdc2gJWIkDPOveiH3_ig1bddTMonEhIDZIzohrc/edit#heading=h.nbo7ii79bq92
- 15:16:20 [Mark_Miller]
- stacey Thanks to all who contibuted
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- staceyTried to plan language. Need people to look at it.
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- Where is the doc?
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- JKline Requirements for automated and manual testing for final deliverable
- 15:20:43 [Mark_Miller]
- stacey What is final deliverable?
- 15:21:07 [Mark_Miller]
- JKline Anything.
- 15:21:40 [Mark_Miller]
- AngelaBarker Automated and/or test results
- 15:22:14 [Mark_Miller]
- JKline Don’t what to get proprietary. An accurate ACR would be okay.
- 15:23:48 [Mark_Miller]
- JKline A statement is okay, we don’t want to get to specific
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- Fazio ACR to verify testing has been performed
- 15:24:12 [Mark_Miller]
- Jkline No
- 15:24:50 [Mark_Miller]
- JKiline A requirement that automated and manual testing has been performed.
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- Rita Isn’t the assumption that ACR means you’ve done testing?
- 15:26:22 [Mark_Miller]
- JKline No ACR are sometimes written without testing
- 15:27:52 [Mark_Miller]
- Fazio Requirement that automated accessibility has been performed on the product, service or final deliverable.
- 15:27:58 [Mark_Miller]
- AngelaBarker Manual and/or automated because some orgs only do manual.
- 15:28:29 [Mark_Miller]
- AngelaBarker *don't do automated
- 15:28:56 [Mark_Miller]
- JKline yes
- 15:32:45 [Mark_Miller]
- stacey Stacy will connect with Charles on the github update in the next week or two
- 15:34:03 [stacey]
- Jeff: scoring in clean enough state/set up to track. Not the other format that we looked at.Going to send it out to the working group and see about publishing that link in the next publish round
- 15:35:02 [stacey]
- Fazio: I don't think it's an issue to change up the scoring. We'll get some trial and error on ti anyway. Please send to the working group.
- 15:35:35 [stacey]
- Fazio: maybe sent to accessibility guidelines and APA for feedback?
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3 -- Maturity Model Scoring Subgroup Update -- taken up [from Fazio]
- 15:39:31 [stacey]
- https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/blob/main/draft/A11y%20Maturity%20Template%20Measurements%20Experiment.xlsx
- 15:39:52 [stacey]
- Stacey: Select "view raw" link to open it
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- ... open the spreadsheet
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- Fazio: we might want to remove the W3C logo off of the spreadsheet
- 15:46:12 [stacey]
- Jeff: full tally tab - taking percentages complete from the other tabs and dropping them into a table. It will tally everything up and show score for the whole model. We can add more columns/info down the road if we need to. Want to make sure only one element that's scored (like can't have something in launch and integrate), so number of count has
- 15:46:12 [stacey]
- to match number of proof points on the page.
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- Fazio: next steps: update git hub doc, remove w3c logo, and get it in git and ready to publish
- 15:49:35 [stacey]
- Fazio: will send Jeff mailing lists for APA and AGWG
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- zakim, end meeting
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- As of this point the attendees have been Fazio, AngelaBarker, Mark_Miller, stacey, jkline
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/01-maturity-minutes.html Zakim
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- I am happy to have been of service, stacey; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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