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13:48:35 <Steven> Meeting: XForms Group Weekly Teleconference
13:48:35 <Steven> Chair: Steven
13:48:35 <Steven> Previous Meeting: https://www.w3.org/2024/04/12-forms-minutes
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13:49:52 <Steven> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2024Apr/0009
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14:00:58 <Steven> Topic: ACTION Steven MIPs on controls
14:00:58 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2024Apr/0008
14:02:46 <Steven> Steven: [Explains the mail]
14:03:17 <Steven> Alain: Should we still call them MIPs?
14:03:21 <Steven> Steven: Good point
14:03:36 <Steven> Erik: MIPs is conventient
14:04:08 <Steven> Steven: We can still call them MIPs in the model, and properties elsewhere
14:04:14 <Steven> Erik: Works for me.
14:04:39 <Steven> ... calculate is a little different
14:04:51 <Steven> Steven: In fact it *exposes* the difference
14:06:12 <Steven> Erik: We have another calculation 'default' that calculates an initial value. There is some trickery, like when you add a new node.
14:07:07 <Steven> Steven: I've often thought about something similar. It would be useful
14:07:16 <Steven> Erik: I'll send a link
14:07:31 <Steven> Steven: Let's talk about it next week.
14:07:38 <Steven> Topic: AOB
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14:10:55 <Steven> Steven: I went to the National Research Software Conference this week. It had an unconference part, where people sent in topics, and then pitched them in a plenary session, and people went to the session that attracted them most. There were 15 topics, and I pitched Declarative Programming. The results of all topics will be gathered in 15 blog posts. I'll send a link when it's ready.
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14:12:28 <Steven> s/conventient/convenient
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