13:57:11 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #apa
13:57:16 <RRSAgent> logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/04/24-apa-irc
13:57:16 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
13:57:17 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
13:57:26 <janina> Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
13:57:32 <janina> Date: 24 Apr 2024
13:57:35 <janina> Chair:  Matthew
13:57:35 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
13:57:35 <janina> Agenda+ TPAC 2024 Planning Begins
13:57:35 <janina> agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
13:57:38 <janina> agenda+ HR A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
13:57:41 <janina> agenda+ Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues
13:57:44 <janina> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
13:57:46 <janina> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
13:57:49 <janina> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
13:57:51 <janina> agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
13:57:54 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
13:57:57 <janina> agenda+ be done
13:58:59 <matatk> matatk has joined #apa
13:59:14 <janina>  gb, off
13:59:24 <matatk> gb, status
13:59:25 <gb> matatk, the delay is 15, issues are on, names are on, full issues are printed 10 at a time; and the repository is https://github.com/w3c/apa
13:59:58 <matatk> gb, off
13:59:58 <gb> matatk, OK.
14:01:31 <mike_beganyi> mike_beganyi has joined #apa
14:01:47 <mike_beganyi> present+
14:01:48 <NehaJ> NehaJ has joined #apa
14:01:54 <niklasegger> niklasegger has joined #apa
14:01:59 <niklasegger> present+
14:02:02 <Roy> present+
14:02:21 <NehaJ> +present
14:02:26 <NehaJ> present+
14:03:56 <Iali> present+
14:04:10 <matatk> present+
14:04:18 <Fazio> present+
14:04:18 <PaulG> present+
14:04:19 <janina> present+
14:04:29 <janina> zakim, who's here?
14:04:29 <Zakim> Present: mike_beganyi, niklasegger, Roy, present, NehaJ, Iali, matatk, Fazio, PaulG, janina
14:04:31 <Zakim> On IRC I see niklasegger, NehaJ, mike_beganyi, matatk, RRSAgent, Zakim, Fazio, Iali, PaulG, kirkwood, Roy, jamesn, janina, gb, slightlyoff, tink, ada, Rachael, cwilso, agendabot,
14:04:31 <Zakim> ... jcraig
14:04:31 <niklasegger> scribe+
14:04:35 <JenStrickland> JenStrickland has joined #apa
14:04:40 <JenStrickland> present+
14:04:46 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:04:46 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
14:05:39 <matatk> https://www.w3.org/reports/ai-web-impact/
14:06:43 <niklasegger> matatk: Document is about AI and the web, result of the whole w3c, can recommend reading this
14:06:47 <PaulG> q+
14:08:51 <niklasegger> janina: RQTF will also focus more on this topic in the future
14:10:00 <PaulG> q-
14:10:32 <niklasegger> Fazio: Really good that we start looking at AI more
14:12:04 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:12:04 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- TPAC 2024 Planning Begins -- taken up [from janina]
14:13:06 <niklasegger> matatk: Please raise TPAC in your groups: With who do you want to talk about what?
14:13:22 <janina> scribe+
14:13:40 <janina> TOPIC: Request to put 360 Captions Report on Note Track
14:13:47 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:13:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/04/24-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:14:43 <matatk> https://www.w3.org/community/immersive-captions/
14:15:07 <matatk> https://w3c.github.io/immersive-captions-cg/360-captions/
14:15:39 <janina> https://www.w3.org/2024/04/24-rqtf-minutes.html#r01
14:15:58 <niklasegger> janina: This report could help drive the design of these systems. In RQTF we voted on a solution today: See link above
14:16:39 <Dr_Keith> Dr_Keith has joined #apa
14:16:45 <Dr_Keith> present+
14:16:53 <niklasegger> janina: Next step will be a call for consesus
14:17:07 <matatk> q?
14:17:32 <niklasegger> s/consesus/consensus
14:18:43 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:18:43 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from janina]
14:19:00 <Roy> subtopic: Federated Identity Working Group Charter
14:19:01 <Roy> - charter: https://w3c.github.io/charter-drafts/2024/wg-fedid.html
14:19:01 <Roy> - issue: https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/450
14:19:37 <Roy> Adding Digital Credentials to the FedID WG
14:19:48 <Roy> comments from APA last time: https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/427#issuecomment-1852816383
14:20:16 <niklasegger> Roy: It is a re-charter. We reviewed it a few months ago.
14:20:45 <niklasegger> matatk: A lot of development there, since the last time I looked at it. Any a11y from anyone?
14:20:56 <matatk> q?
14:21:01 <niklasegger> *Any a11y concerns
14:27:13 <PaulG> q+
14:27:17 <Roy> https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/432
14:27:48 <matatk> agenda?
14:28:00 <matatk> zakim, drop item 4
14:28:00 <Zakim> agendum 4, HR A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review, dropped
14:28:02 <matatk> zakim, drop item 5
14:28:03 <Zakim> agendum 5, Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues, dropped
14:28:03 <matatk> zakim, drop item 6
14:28:03 <Zakim> agendum 6, new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html, dropped
14:28:13 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:28:15 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, niklasegger
14:28:16 <matatk> q?
14:28:52 <matatk> topic: Privacy Principles review
14:28:55 <PaulG> https://www.w3.org/TR/2024/DNOTE-privacy-principles-20240226/
14:29:12 <PaulG> "All of these sources of data can reveal personal data about a person's configuration, device, environment, or behavior that could be sensitive or be used as part of browser fingerprinting to recognize people across contexts."
14:29:35 <matatk> Tracking issue for this review: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/74
14:29:49 <niklasegger> PaulG: There is one section, I want to empathise: see above
14:30:05 <matatk> matatk has joined #apa
14:30:39 <JenStrickland> That's a great point PaulG. Using the mosaic effect it's possible to use that data along with other data and be able to identify individuals, for a variety of purposes — without informed consent and privacy considerations.
14:30:58 <JenStrickland> I do need to drop for a different meeting, and am infinitely grateful that PaulG raised this! Thank you!
14:31:37 <JenStrickland> These considerations can also impact folks for uses like NSA, identity hacking/theft, etc.
14:31:40 <niklasegger> PaulG: We need to make sure that everything that sits on top of these APIs, the devices and so on, need to be accessible.
14:33:05 <niklasegger> matatk: I think raising a Github issue is the way to go here, you can do it yourself
14:33:43 <matatk> q?
14:33:45 <matatk> ack PaulG
14:33:49 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:33:49 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from janina]
14:34:26 <niklasegger> PaulG: I responded in the list about the color-contrast
14:34:54 <PaulG> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/345#issuecomment-2023340751
14:37:30 <niklasegger> PaulG: Automatically switching colors to meet contrast requirements. However, too much contrast is also programmatically. We propose a clamp solution (with a maximum and a minimun)
14:38:20 <niklasegger> matatk: Please read through the issue and add your points/ ideas, if you have any: See link to the Github issue
14:39:04 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:39:04 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from janina]
14:39:17 <niklasegger> zakim, drop this item
14:39:17 <Zakim> I don't understand 'drop this item', niklasegger
14:39:23 <niklasegger> zakim, close this item
14:39:23 <Zakim> agendum 8 closed
14:39:24 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:39:24 <Zakim> 9. Task Force & Deliverables Updates [from janina]
14:39:27 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:39:27 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- Task Force & Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from janina]
14:39:58 <matatk> subtopic: RQTF
14:40:18 <matatk> https://w3c.github.io/ctaur/
14:40:29 <niklasegger> janina: We are worried, not enough people reviewd/ looked at the ctaur document
14:40:30 <matatk> Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements - review request coming soon
14:42:09 <matatk> Side note on *AUR docs: Digital Accessibility User Requirements - https://www.w3.org/WAI/research/user-requirements/
14:43:32 <niklasegger> zakim, take up item 8
14:43:32 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from janina]
14:44:08 <matatk> subtopic: Update the accessibility section 14 to include RFC 8865 for real-time text in WebRTC data channel
14:44:17 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/185
14:46:36 <matatk> subtopic: Allow additional elements to be considered labelable
14:46:47 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/167
14:47:13 <niklasegger> matatk: We talked about this before and thought it was good idea
14:48:06 <matatk> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9632#issuecomment-1997988711
14:48:32 <niklasegger> matatk: We wanted to make sure the click to focus works. Paul added this comment (see above) for this reason
14:49:54 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:49:54 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- Task Force & Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from janina]
14:50:06 <niklasegger> zakim, close this item
14:50:06 <Zakim> agendum 9 closed
14:50:07 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:50:07 <Zakim> 10. Other Business [from janina]
14:50:12 <niklasegger> zakim, take up item 10
14:50:12 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Other Business -- taken up [from janina]
14:51:45 <niklasegger> matatk: More TPAC information: W3C is 30 years old, founded in 1994. There will be something on TPAC
14:52:32 <matatk> q?
14:52:40 <niklasegger> matatk: 5.5 billion people have access to the internet, so our work can and will have a big impact on a lot of people. Keep up the good work
14:52:53 <niklasegger> rrsagent, make minutes
14:52:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/04/24-apa-minutes.html niklasegger
14:53:19 <PaulG> PaulG has left #apa
14:53:27 <matatk> s/5.5/5.4/
14:53:32 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:53:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/04/24-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:53:40 <matatk> zakim, end meeting
14:53:40 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been mike_beganyi, niklasegger, Roy, present, NehaJ, Iali, matatk, Fazio, PaulG, janina, JenStrickland, Dr_Keith
14:53:40 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:53:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/04/24-apa-minutes.html Zakim
14:53:46 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, matatk; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
14:53:47 <Zakim> Zakim has left #apa
15:03:13 <janina> zakim, bye
15:03:18 <janina> rrsagent, bye
15:03:18 <RRSAgent> I see no action items