15:53:11 RRSAgent has joined #aria-editors 15:53:15 logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/04/15-aria-editors-irc 15:53:15 RRSAgent, make logs Public 15:53:16 Meeting: ARIA Editors 15:54:54 zakim, agenda? 15:54:54 I see nothing on the agenda 15:55:09 agendabot, find agenda 15:55:10 dmontalvo, OK. This may take a minute... 15:55:10 agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria-editors/2024Apr/0000.html 15:55:10 clear agenda 15:55:10 agenda+ [new] review stale github issues (aria #2151) 15:55:11 agenda+ [continue] Remove abbr elements aria #2113 15:55:13 agenda+ [continue] monorepo aria-common #110 // PR/Merge process (aria #2055) 15:55:16 agenda+ [continue] aria-common #109 remove/replace aria-wg-active.md and 15:55:19 agenda+ [continue] respec dark mode (aria #2133 etc) 15:55:22 agenda+ [continue] modernizing aria.js (aria-common #104 & PR #106) 15:55:24 agenda+ [on Hold] roll out prettier setup - tracked via aria-common#99 15:55:27 agenda+ [on Hold] spec markup for advice for AT (jnurthen) 16:04:00 pkra has joined #aria-editors 16:04:19 zakim, agenda? 16:04:19 I see 8 items remaining on the agenda: 16:04:20 1. [new] review stale github issues (aria #2151) [from agendabot] 16:04:20 2. [continue] Remove abbr elements aria #2113 [from agendabot] 16:04:20 3. [continue] monorepo aria-common #110 // PR/Merge process (aria #2055) [from agendabot] 16:04:20 4. [continue] aria-common #109 remove/replace aria-wg-active.md and [from agendabot] 16:04:20 5. [continue] respec dark mode (aria #2133 etc) [from agendabot] 16:04:22 6. [continue] modernizing aria.js (aria-common #104 & PR #106) [from agendabot] 16:04:22 7. [on Hold] roll out prettier setup - tracked via aria-common#99 [from agendabot] 16:04:22 8. [on Hold] spec markup for advice for AT (jnurthen) [from agendabot] 16:11:26 zakim, next item 16:11:26 agendum 1 -- [new] review stale github issues (aria #2151) -- taken up [from agendabot] 16:11:29 scribe: pkra 16:11:41 matt: interested in item 1. 16:11:43 ... examples? 16:12:09 pkra: scotto had marked https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/79 because implementations now have cell the same as grid 16:12:32 matt: interesting case. gridcell is a widget. There would be more changes necessary. 16:13:11 scotto: right. my comment was purely about the fact that stage 1 from joanie's last comment has been resolved. 16:14:30 matt: sounds good. Old but still useful. 16:14:38 pkra: I also closed a very old one on my end. 16:15:32 matt: sounds like a simpler query then, i.e., everything older than e.g. 1 year 16:16:38 ... seems like aria repository is not doing so badly 16:16:54 ... 75 issues not updated since March last year https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+updated%3A%3C2023-03-30 16:17:57 scotto: but if we touch them, that won't work. 16:18:08 ... maybe "created before 2020" 16:18:12 pkra: 89 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+created%3A%3C2020-01-01 16:21:01 matt: I see one on live region roles. I'd love to deprecate some of them. 16:21:18 scotto: maybe just put them on the agenda to make a quick resolution. 16:22:00 ... e.g., I recently had a request for mappings for deprecated elements. That's very odd. 16:22:14 matt: right. I should just update the issue or close and open a new one. 16:22:22 ... e.g., log is really not a good way to do a log. 16:23:22 ... how does html feel about marquee? 16:23:26 scotto: no real interest. 16:23:49 matt: ok. I'll go through some of them. 16:24:27 ... for a general approach on new issues, maybe for things that are potentially real issues, how do we keep track that we have looked but won't pursue it. 16:24:46 ... I don't think we want a situation where we just create an issue for the same thing 16:26:26 pkra: there are some issues that are primarily blocked by implementations, e.g., audio/video elements. So when something like the recent aria-flowTo question came up, we don't really have a good category. 16:26:39 matt: sometimes it does happen, e.g., recent maxlength. 16:27:28 pkra: then there's also leftovers from role-parity work, e.g., input types, canvas. 16:28:14 matt: right. Maybe we can have a yearly "revisit 5 year old issues" session. 16:30:24 ... just rapid fire keep/don'tkeep/agenda 16:30:26 pkra: maybe quarterly 15mins of review 16:31:08 scotto: just using a regular meeting to review all the stale issues and PRs. 16:31:31 pkra: we'll probably soon enter 1.3 cleanup phase. 16:32:14 zakim, close item 16:32:14 I don't understand 'close item', pkra 16:32:21 zakim, close this item 16:32:21 agendum 1 closed 16:32:22 I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 16:32:22 2. [continue] Remove abbr elements aria #2113 [from agendabot] 16:32:26 zakim, take up item 3 16:32:26 agendum 3 -- [continue] monorepo aria-common #110 // PR/Merge process (aria #2055) -- taken up [from agendabot] 16:32:37 matt: what's the status here? 16:33:05 pkra: physical meeting is off the table. But virtual one is still planned, I think. Either dedicated or TPAC adjacent. 16:33:53 matt: for APG thinking about outdated acknowledgments. I'm not sure what we want but would like to be consistent. 16:34:31 daniel: there's an ongoing PR to use the w3c list data to replace the manual lists. 16:34:35 ... but let's follow up. 16:34:59 ... there is some guidance from w3c. 16:36:57 matt: sounds good 16:37:56 zakim, end meeting 16:37:56 As of this point the attendees have been (no one) 16:37:59 RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2 16:38:00 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/04/15-aria-editors-minutes.html Zakim 16:38:07 I am happy to have been of service, pkra; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye 16:38:07 Zakim has left #aria-editors