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XForms Group Weekly Teleconference

05 April 2024

Attendees

Present
Alain, Erik, Steven
Regrets
-
Chair
Steven
Scribe
Steven

Meeting minutes

Tracker

https://cwi.nl/~steven/apps/minutes/

Steven: It's not yet perfect, but you can search, and click through to minutes and so on. I'll keep updating it.

ACTION: Steven to restructure sections on controls

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2024Mar/0006

Steven: Continues

ACTION-2346: events crossing xforms boundaries [Erik]

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2023Sep/0008

Erik: Continues

Sorting

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2024Apr/0000

Steven: [Talks through the proposal]

Alain: How about using a sequence for multiple keys
… although sometimes you need to ascend on some keys, and descend on others
… XQuery uses "ascending|descending" for "up|down"; we should normalise.

Erik: There is a problem with keys.
… multiple keys would have to work differently to how XPath does it.
… so having a sequence would not work
… you have reapply the function n times

Steven: Except when adding a new item, which would use log n applications

Erik: I don't think XPath supports multiple keys; xslt does
… (I think)
… they have a sort element

<ebruchez> https://www.w3.org/TR/xslt-30/#xsl-sort

Steven: So we still need to deal with multiple keys
… what do you think about the approach in general

Erik: Seems useful

Alain: Yeah

Steven: How about the idea of allowing the bind attributes on controls?

Erik: It makes sense.
… some difficult questions not yet resolved

Steven: I should try and dig out the previous discussions

Erik: Do they all work though?
… we have functions to access the model properties; if you have any on a control, it wouldn;t propogate back
… and @calculate?

Steven: It would be similar to @value that we have on a lot of controls.

Erik: We would need to go through all of them.

Steven: I think worth evaluating.

ACTION: Steven to evaluate effect of MIPs on controls

ACTION: Dig out previous discussions on MIPs on controls

AOB

[None]

[ADJOURN]

Summary of action items

  1. Steven to evaluate effect of MIPs on controls
  2. Dig out previous discussions on MIPs on controls
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All speakers: Alain, Erik, Steven

Active on IRC: ebruchez, Steven