IRC log of forms on 2024-04-05
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/04/05-forms-irc
- 13:54:09 [Steven]
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- Meeting: XForms Group Weekly Teleconference
- 13:54:26 [Steven]
- Chair: Steven
- 13:54:36 [Steven]
- Previous Meeting: https://www.w3.org/2024/03/29-forms-minutes
- 13:54:43 [Alain]
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- 13:54:45 [Steven]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 13:54:46 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/04/05-forms-minutes.html Steven
- 13:59:48 [ebruchez]
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- 14:01:02 [Steven]
- Topic: Tracker
- 14:01:02 [Steven]
- https://cwi.nl/~steven/apps/minutes/
- 14:01:46 [Steven]
- Steven: It's not yet perfect, but you can search, and click through to minutes and so on. I'll keep updating it.
- 14:02:45 [Steven]
- Topic: ACTION: Steven to restructure sections on controls
- 14:02:45 [Steven]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2024Mar/0006
- 14:02:49 [Steven]
- Steven: Continues
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- Topic: ACTION-2346: events crossing xforms boundaries [Erik]
- 14:02:56 [Steven]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2023Sep/0008
- 14:03:01 [Steven]
- Erik: Continues
- 14:03:08 [Steven]
- Topic: Sorting
- 14:03:08 [Steven]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2024Apr/0000
- 14:07:22 [Steven]
- Steven: [Taks through the proposal]
- 14:07:36 [Steven]
- Alain: How about using a sequence for multiple keys
- 14:07:59 [Steven]
- ... although sometimes you need to ascend on some keys, and descend o others
- 14:08:53 [Steven]
- ... XQuery uses "ascending|descending" for "up|down"; we should normalise.
- 14:09:02 [Steven]
- Erik: There is a problem with keys.
- 14:10:32 [Steven]
- ... multiple keys would have to work differently yto how XPath does it.
- 14:10:39 [Steven]
- s/yto/to/
- 14:11:00 [Steven]
- ... so having a sequence would not work
- 14:11:16 [Steven]
- ... you have reapply the function n times
- 14:11:55 [Steven]
- Steven: Except when adding a new item, which would use log n applications
- 14:12:45 [Steven]
- Erik: I don't think XPath supports multiple keys; xslt does
- 14:12:55 [Steven]
- ... (I think)
- 14:13:05 [Steven]
- ... they have a sort element
- 14:13:15 [ebruchez]
- https://www.w3.org/TR/xslt-30/#xsl-sort
- 14:14:32 [Steven]
- Steven: So we still need to deal with multiple keys
- 14:16:00 [Steven]
- ... what do you think about the approach in general
- 14:16:04 [Steven]
- Erik: Seems useful
- 14:16:09 [Steven]
- Alain: Yeah]
- 14:16:13 [Steven]
- s/]/
- 14:16:36 [Steven]
- Steven: How about the idea of allowing the bind attributes on controls?
- 14:16:42 [Steven]
- Erik: It makes sense.
- 14:16:54 [Steven]
- ... some difficult questions npot yet resolved
- 14:16:59 [Steven]
- s/pot/ot/
- 14:17:27 [Steven]
- Steven: I should try and dig out the previous discussions
- 14:17:44 [Steven]
- Erik: Do they all work though?
- 14:18:29 [Steven]
- ... we have functions to access the model properties; if you have any on a control, it wouldn;t propogate back
- 14:18:43 [Steven]
- ... and @calculate?
- 14:19:06 [Steven]
- Steven: It would be similar to @value that we have on a lot of controls.
- 14:19:18 [Steven]
- Erik: We would need to go through all of them.
- 14:19:30 [Steven]
- Steven: I think worth evaluating.
- 14:19:52 [Steven]
- ACTION: Steven to evaluate effect of MIPs on controls
- 14:20:37 [Steven]
- ACTION: Dig out previous discussions on MIPs on controls
- 14:21:06 [Steven]
- Topic: AOB
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- [None]
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- [ADJOURN]
- 14:22:01 [Steven]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 14:22:03 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/04/05-forms-minutes.html Steven
- 14:23:49 [Steven]
- Present: Alain, Erik, Steven
- 14:23:51 [Steven]
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- 14:23:52 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/04/05-forms-minutes.html Steven
- 14:24:15 [Steven]
- s/Taks/Talks/
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- s/descend o /descend on /
- 14:25:13 [Steven]
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- 14:25:15 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/04/05-forms-minutes.html Steven